Google Wants a Wireless Carrier Cage MatchNew Google instant auction system for voice and wireless data ( old news - 09:59AM Friday Sep 26 2008) tags: competition · wireless · alternativesIf the phone companies weren't annoyed enough with Google for their pro-net-neutrality positions, White Spaces push and "interference" in the 700Mhz auction process, the company gave them another reason this week. The same week that saw the launch of the first phone with their new OS, Google has filed a patent for a system where wireless data and voice carriers would be forced to bid to compete for your service every time you need a wireless network connection. According to New Scientist, Devices using the system would send networks their request for voice or data, and carriers would respond with their best rates. The user could then choose from the lowest price carrier, or have the device do it automatically. While Google admits it will likely never happen, it remains an interesting competitive premise -- a real time, no-holds-barred cage match for your wireless business.
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SuperJoker
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| I'd rather have all My teeth pulled I'd rather have all My teeth pulled, Than have to bid on a phone call everytime I'd need to make a call, Give Me a flat fee instead with usable and reasonable terms instead, dreaming? Maybe, I don't know.
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Jacksonville, FL | Re: I'd rather have all My teeth pulled Hey, because the last thing we need between companies in America is competition, right? | |
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| Re: I'd rather have all My teeth pulled Competition brings faster response, more responsible care, and cheaper prices. How are those things bad for the guy that needs care?
Or are you imagining something absurd like two ambulance drivers both trying to pull a gurney into the back of their van? | |
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en102
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| Re: I'd rather have all My teeth pulled Right...The U.S. system is based on competition... but on a different level.
The insurance companies hold the cards, and decide how and where your treatment will occur.
I think there's somewhere in Asia where you pay into insurance, but rather than it going directly into a specific carrier (say Blue Shield or Kaiser), its held until you use it, and can be used at ANY hospital.
Hospitals there tend to try and win your business.
U.S. system is built on co-pay and prescription drugs and whacked out insurance policies, putting fear into people.
Out of all of them...I prefer the Canadian/European system of socialized health care.
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| said by knightmb  :[We all like competition, just not at a bad time. Kind of like Hospitals trying to compete for your business while you are dying on the ground between two Ambulance from two different Hospitals. Since 911 calls aren't suppose to be billed to you, I'm pretty sure this system would not affect the ability to make emergency calls.
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Gaffney, SC | Re: I'd rather have all My teeth pulled yep! That is correct I like the idea but I doupt they will want to play.... The Cell company's that is. | |
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| said by knightmb :said by Angrychair :Hey, because the last thing we need between companies in America is competition, right? We all like competition, just not at a bad time. Kind of like Hospitals trying to compete for your business while you are dying on the ground between two Ambulance from two different Hospitals. Good point. I would rather there be a feature on the phone that tells the phone to connect to the lowest price carrier all the time, automatically without delaying the call would be nice.
Otherwise 911 emergency calls should go through on any carrier without delay, if it does delay scrap the phone. | |
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SLD
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1 edit | "The user could then choose from the lowest price carrier, or have the device do it automatically". | |
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kamm
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| Re: I'd rather have all My teeth pulled said by SLD :"The user could then choose from the lowest price carrier, or have the device do it automatically". Pssst,
you're trying to use sane, logical reasons against the retarded pro-corporate, pro-monopoly, anti-competition "free market capitalism" crowd... 
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| said by SuperJoker :I'd rather have all My teeth pulled, Than have to bid on a phone call everytime I'd need to make a call, Give Me a flat fee instead with usable and reasonable terms instead, dreaming? Maybe, I don't know. I agree, and I think this is a terrible idea. Who uses wireless on a "pay per call" basis anyway?? I like the fact that my bill is roughly the same every month, and I dont need to think about it. The other major issue with this is that (as we all know) each carrier would likely add on a "convenience fee", which would likely end up doubling your bill at the end of the day. I am going to pass on this and stick with my flat rate plan.
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LiamJunket
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| Re: I'd rather have all My teeth pulled said by wifi4milez :The other major issue with this is that (as we all know) each carrier would likely add on a "convenience fee", which would likely end up doubling your bill at the end of the day. And don't forget that local, state, federal taxes, USF fees, etc would all need to be included in the billing.
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wifi4milez
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| Re: I'd rather have all My teeth pulled said by LiamJunket :said by wifi4milez :The other major issue with this is that (as we all know) each carrier would likely add on a "convenience fee", which would likely end up doubling your bill at the end of the day. And don't forget that local, state, federal taxes, USF fees, etc would all need to be included in the billing. Correct, I should have also mentioned that. Sure, you might get a lower price on the call but you would be totally screwed when the actual bill arrives due to the extra charges/taxes.
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rf_engineer
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| What if the price goes lower in the middle of your call? They should have it so carriers compete for each voice packet. And maybe we can also have Internet transport carriers bid on your IP traffic traveling across the Internet after it leaves your ISP. Each transport provider can bid on each bit individually and you'll get the best price that millisecond. Of course, Google will be the company to manage it all. I'm not sure what they'll call the service but it will be in perpetual beta. | |
| Austinloop
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Austin, TX
| Billing? An interesting concept, but on the practical side, what about billing?
Could one be getting a bill for a couple of phone calls from Verizon, some cell data from AT&T, and computer internet access from Sprint. That should be really interesting.
It seems hard enough, at times, to keep track of one carrier's billing, let alone, the possibility of several different carriers billing one. | |
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| Re: Billing? said by Austinloop :An interesting concept, but on the practical side, what about billing? Could one be getting a bill for a couple of phone calls from Verizon, some cell data from AT&T, and computer internet access from Sprint. That should be really interesting. It seems hard enough, at times, to keep track of one carrier's billing, let alone, the possibility of several different carriers billing one. There used to be companies who did this on the wireline side. They would take care of billing you and would add in either a flat monthly fee, or a small percentage of the per minute fee for the service.
I doubt Google wants to get into that business though.
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LiamJunket
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| said by Austinloop :An interesting concept, but on the practical side, what about billing? Could one be getting a bill for a couple of phone calls from Verizon, some cell data from AT&T, and computer internet access from Sprint. That should be really interesting. It seems hard enough, at times, to keep track of one carrier's billing, let alone, the possibility of several different carriers billing one. I am sure Google would be willing to provide a service that would concentrate all the billing on their servers and provide you with 1 bill for all your wireless calls.
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jjoshua
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Scotch Plains, NJ | That's how my VOIP works At home, my VOIP is configured to use different providers for different types of calls. And if one provider is not available, then the next best provider is used.
Sounds good to me. | |
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kamm
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1 edit | Re: That's how my VOIP works Sounds cool. How do you select the right offer? | |
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hairspring
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| Patent squatting Competition is a Good Thing, but ...
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Google admits it will likely never happen,
So they are just squatting on the patent.
We need patent reform, where patents quickly expire if they aren't used. The current system encourages the shotgun approach and stifles innovation.
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| Re: Off topic but I have to ask.... said by fatmanskinny :Karl, where in the heck did you get that picture of Hulk Hogan fighting King Kong Bundy in a steel cage match? That brought back some memories for this Hulkamaniac.  google is yr friend:
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floepie
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BEvans
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| Really stupid idea. So easy to exploit. Create artificial scarcity and ramp up the price. This is what Enron did to California during it's "Energy Crisis". The parallels are there - both electricity and cell calls can't be stored in any large amount so a spot pricing market is open to abuse. | |
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Off topic but I have to ask....