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2007-Nov-30 5:31 pm
Will they bid enough to win ?Will they bid enough to win, or are they just in it to make themselves not look like hypocrites after making all that noise about open networks? The minimum bid set by the FCC won't be enough to win. » Re: Apple as a GSM provider ? | |
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JasonD
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2007-Nov-30 7:13 pm
Re: Will they bid enough to win ?Not sure about this HTC, is this an open, closed, or % over bid? If VZ and AT&T are forced to bid too high because they can't see what google puts on the table, it will mean higher prices for consumers. | |
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| dvd536as Mr. Pink as they come Premium Member join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ |
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said by FFH5:Will they bid enough to win, or are they just in it to make themselves not look like hypocrites after making all that noise about open networks? The minimum bid set by the FCC won't be enough to win. » Re: Apple as a GSM provider ? I could see it now. if apple were a cell provider it would be your basic $49.99/month verizon plan but because it would probably be called iCell it would cost $149.99/month. everyone knows apple weenies pay triple for what somethings worth because its got the apple logo on it. iphone anyone? | |
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2007-Dec-1 11:04 am
Re: Will they bid enough to win ?said by dvd536:said by FFH5:Will they bid enough to win, or are they just in it to make themselves not look like hypocrites after making all that noise about open networks? The minimum bid set by the FCC won't be enough to win. » Re: Apple as a GSM provider ? I could see it now. if apple were a cell provider it would be your basic $49.99/month verizon plan but because it would probably be called iCell it would cost $149.99/month. everyone knows apple weenies pay triple for what somethings worth because its got the apple logo on it. iphone anyone? haha.... So true... Say what you want about Microsoft, but Apple is 1000X worse... I mean, who would elect to pay for an OS that barely anyone makes software for and that is primarily built for proprietary hardware???? It seems it is the rich children of the world who didn't grow out of their rebel stage and don't mind giving away half the house when Apple releases a new POS every month. -Tzale | |
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2007-Nov-30 5:41 pm
Who Wins?"the real winners of this auction are American consumers who likely will see more choices than ever before in how they access the Internet."
Sounds like Mel Karamazin of Sirius explaining the benefits of the XM/Sirius merger. Just replace 'internet' with music.
Putting on the cynical corporate hat here, anyone who says they are benefiting the consumer while having a $625 a share price makes me just a little skeptical.
Will 700Mhz become the Google channel of non-stop ads? Will it become what TV became, "a vast wasteland" | |
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Re: Who Wins?said by ricep5 Will 700Mhz become the Google channel of non-stop ads? Will it become what TV became, "a vast wasteland" When has Google ever used intrusive ads anyways? Ads you see on people's web site are placed there my the site hosts themselves. Gmail's are so far off to the right, I forget they're there. Google Maps moble doesn't have any. Picasa doesn't have any. None of their other apps have any. What makes you think a paid service would all the sudden make Google change their whole business practice to simply piss off people? | |
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2007-Nov-30 7:18 pm
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Not sure where your point is leading on the XM/Sirius merger, but both are under severe pressure. If they don't merge, we might loose both of them. | |
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Would you feel better if they did a 100 to 1 stock split so the share price was 6.25? Share price is meaningless, that's why people look at market cap. | |
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2007-Dec-1 11:48 am
The point of relating it to the XM/Sirius merger is the duplication of purpose, "benefit to consumers"
Any company with a high share price like Google's (which translates to market cap), shows they have a dominant position with the financial markets. Anyone with that kind of position saying "consumer benefit" is subject to scrutiny.
So yes, they do relate and that was the point. | |
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2007-Nov-30 6:07 pm
Never fearThe 'Googles' will never be allowed to strap on their Do_No_Evil dildo and save us from ourselves. | |
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2007-Nov-30 6:17 pm
Go Google!I hope the Google giant will have a chance against the sharks. | |
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2007-Nov-30 6:30 pm
Imagine...if Apple and Google teamed up to bid on the spectrum? That's pretty much the only way either one of them stand a chance at getting it. | |
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2007-Nov-30 7:52 pm
Re: Imagine...said by MarkyD:if Apple and Google teamed up to bid on the spectrum? That's pretty much the only way either one of them stand a chance at getting it. GOOG has a 210 billion market cap and AT&T has a 227 billion cap. GOOG has just as much money to throw away in the auction as any of the incumbents. This is an auction, lobbyist's can't get their fingers in this one. If Google wants it, they simply have to be willing to spend more money than AT&T or Verizon. And PLEASE don't let Apple get a hold of it, look at the closed nature of every product they release. | |
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Re: Imagine...said by Matt3:said by MarkyD:if Apple and Google teamed up to bid on the spectrum? That's pretty much the only way either one of them stand a chance at getting it. GOOG has a 210 billion market cap and AT&T has a 227 billion cap. GOOG has just as much money to throw away in the auction as any of the incumbents. And AAPL has a 159B market cap. They've been pretty friendly with Google lately too. | |
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2007-Dec-1 9:01 am
Re: Imagine...said by sporkme:said by Matt3:said by MarkyD:if Apple and Google teamed up to bid on the spectrum? GOOG has a 210 billion market cap. And AAPL has a 159B market cap. They've been pretty friendly with Google lately too. Maybe they will time the ceremony to coincide with the auction. . . . I wonder what they will call the baby ? | |
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2007-Dec-1 2:28 pm
Re: Imagine...said by Coma:Maybe they will time the ceremony to coincide with the auction. . . . I wonder what they will call the baby ? Google has already stated they will be bidding individually. | |
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2007-Nov-30 6:33 pm
AwesomeThis is the best news I've read in quite some time. | |
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Great newsI think this is great news. We've already seen what the big guns do with their "waterfront property" and I'm not all that impressed. | |
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ATT & VerizonIs that sweat I'm seeing guys..... | |
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2007-Nov-30 9:06 pm
GOOG is the..$693 pound gorilla in the room. Google may not will be they will force the hand of At&t and Verizon. | |
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2007-Nov-30 9:12 pm
how will the bidding occur?Ebay? Private/Public? It might be interesting to see this as it goes down. | |
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2007-Nov-30 11:37 pm
GoogleI hope google gets it, it would be great for consumers. Otherwise the cell phone carriers will end up monopolies just like all the cable providers today. | |
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GSM/CDMANot to mention, ANOTHER frequency that isn't on ANY cell phone in the world(I exclude Japan's/Europe's 2100Mhz frequencies used for 3G services). I'm also mentioning T-Mobile's scheme to bring 1700Mhz 3G service to the U.S. as well. 1700Mhz would be U.S. exclusive to T-Mobile's network. We folks in the U.S. of A. already have to deal with 2 competing networks, whereas our friends in Europe have no such problem. Granted, 700Mhz would be great for cell service as far as penetration into buildings, broadcast range, and the like-but now were looking at: 850; 1900 Mhz CDMA. 850, 900, 1800, 1900 Mhz GSM. Note: 850, 1900 is used in the U.S.
I currently own a Nokia N95 that can use all 3 3G networks as well as being a quad-band GSM phone..and it kicks ass on ATT's network when I'm in range. Also, my Motorola RAZR(Sprint) does the job on Sprint's EV-DO network as well.
When I travel outside of North America-my N95 is my best friend.
Here's my point, do we need ANOTHER cellular frequency that's exclusive to the U.S. only? Or..will phones be offered that can use another network-preferably GSM.
Either way, the American consumer WILL have to purchase another phone-are you listening Google, T-Mobile? | |
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ATHF
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2007-Dec-1 7:45 am
Googleso what will those 11 or 10MHZ get us in terms of speed per user not mode or tower don't sound like much spectrum but am no expert. if google wins hope they don't waste there time with phone service(voice) and do data only they can make deals with VOIP company | |
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2007-Dec-3 11:36 pm
Re: GoogleA little spectrum goes a long way with the frequency reuse in cellular systems. | |
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chakey
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2007-Dec-1 8:30 am
Where does this money go???This may be a fairly obvious question, but where does all the money that the FCC will make from this auction go? | |
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Re: Where does this money go???The Kevin Martin retirement fund......... | |
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2007-Dec-1 9:48 am
Re: Where does this money go???Extending Broadband service to areas not served. NOT | |
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