Google Won't Follow AOL Goodmail Lead AOL increasingly alone in system adoption AOL is increasingly isolated in its controversial decision to use Goodmail's Certified E-mail fee spam protection, reports WebPro News. The system, increasingly under attack by a variety of groups, would charge approved mass-mailers a tariff in order to bypass the AOL spam-filters and reach their customers. Google says they have no plan to implement such a system. "Gmail does not accept payment to bypass its filters, nor are there plans to charge senders to reach Gmail users," says a Google PR rep.
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Brooklyn, NY | AOL milking customers for all they are worth? Who would have seen this one coming? Oh boy as if raising dialup prices to 25 dollars a month wasnt enough. Lets find another way to widen our consumers a#& a little further by sticking it to em a little deeper.
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| amungusPremium
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America | cool even though gmail is still 'beta' it's a decent webmail, I'm glad they're not doing something this silly.
aol should not mess with things that are not theirs to mess with anyway. | |
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1 edit | Re: cool Good for Google but I do not understand your statement that:
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aol should not mess with things that are not theirs to mess with anyway.
If email is passing through AOL's servers AOL can filter, not filter, charge etc... if they want to.
Edit* AOL seems to be going out of their way to make the decision easy for customers that may be thinking of jumping ship.
Raising their rates, wanting to charge to make sure mail goes through etc.. It is a wonder they are still in business.
To bad they are still in business IMO.
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America | Re: cool yes, they can filter etc. but they should not (IMHO) be allowed to fundamentally change the entire system of how email works, esp. by charging anyone (who is not paying subscriber..). | |
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kudos:6 | Re: cool They are just desperate for cash and have never learned how to go about earning it the right way is all.
Just one more nail in the AOL coffin IMO. | |
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| | goodmail is a SCAM, it does NOT stop spam Goodmail CEO Richard Gingras told advocacy groups and legislators at a California Senate committee hearing last week that its fee-based CertifiedEmail program - which Yahoo and AOL are implementing - is about authentication, not reducing spam, DM News reports.
"The purpose is to restore trust to email," said Gingras. "To suggest that the introduction of CertifiedEmail is going to prevent spammers from sending spam or phishers from trying to phish - we have not said it, nor would any expert say it."
So, what then, exactly does it do? It does EXACTLY the same thing as the advocates of Verizon and AT&T's '2-tier' internet. It charges money for no benefit to the consumer, not one iota. Why in the world would anyone use it?
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|  pleekmoTriptoe Through The TulipsPremium
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| AOL's On My Shitlist I sent a link to an Adrenaline Vault article to a friend on AOL. AOL's e-mail daemon puked it back up: it doesn't like The Adrenaline Vault. So I sent an e-mail with a slightly obfuscated URL. E-mail repuked. Eventually, the fourth e-mail, with a very highly obfuscated URL with instructions on how to de-obfuscate it, was accepted.
AOL's definitely on my shitlist now.
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| |  novaflareThe Dragon Was HerePremium
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Barberton, OH | Re: AOL's On My Shitlist said by pleekmo:I sent a link to an Adrenaline Vault article to a friend on AOL. AOL's e-mail daemon puked it back up: it doesn't like The Adrenaline Vault. So I sent an e-mail with a slightly obfuscated URL. E-mail repuked. Eventually, the fourth e-mail, with a very highly obfuscated URL with instructions on how to de-obfuscate it, was accepted. AOL's definitely on my shitlist now. Biggest email filtering isps have to be juno timewarner and aol.Im a csr for a couple games i delt with so many tickets on things like people not getting their pass word after requesting it to be sent or not getting a sign up confirmtion email to even play the game etc. Turns out these isps were simply filterign these mails as spam with no notice given what so ever. Pop 3 email access means you never even see it go to your junk mail folder as its only viewable through webmail. Timewarner at the time had sent many 100s of emails to the server black hole and it wasnt even available on the webmail.
ISPS should not block any emails period. Sorry if i want to block spam ill do it if your going to filter it send me a notice it was filtered in daily digest form so i know where to go read that important mail that you took it apon your self to mark as spam.
ATTN isps not all automaticaly generated emails are spam some of these we request for what ever reason
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| | Disagree There is merit to the Goodmail service, although I do not know all the details. The post offices have attempted to offer the same or similar service (see epost from Canada Post) from some time now. Unfortunately, off the top of my head, I do not remember all the benefits to users.
It is easy to look at changes like these and to reject them out of hand, but it is often unfair. I will give you an example from another area.
Northwest Airlines started reserving a small number of premium seats which you could reserve by paying a $15 fee. Everyone thought that NWA was gouging their customers. I believe that their real intent was to address the needs of their high-paying, but infrequent flyer, customers. They may be paying $2000 for a ticket, but end up in a lousy center seat because they may be purchasing their ticket at the last moment. $30 extra is a small price to pay for a preferred seat for such a person, and the fee makes sure that those seats are still available until very near the departure date. NWA is not trying to screw the low-fare customer (on which they are not really making any money). They are trying to improve the experience of the high-paying customers.
I believe that much the same thing may be going on with Goodmail. | |
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| Amerika Off Line (AOL) I've had sooo many issues with ebayer's that have aol accounts. They never get my emails from google account or even yahoo. Have to use the barely-friendly, limited, ebay email form.
AOL...Steve Case is gone. So now, just rollover and go already. | |
| | | | Re: Amerika Off Line (AOL) said by cableties:I've had sooo many issues with ebayer's that have aol accounts. They never get my emails from google account or even yahoo. Have to use the barely-friendly, limited, ebay email form. AOL...Steve Case is gone. So now, just rollover and go already. Steve Case saw it coming so he got out of there, most intelligent decision that man has ever made.
I don't understand AOL, instead of trying to get new members (by improving their system :GASP:) they are insistant on increasing prices for existing members.
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Annapolis, MD | What are you talking about? I have Aol, Ebay, and gmail. I pass emails back and forth and get mails from others on gmail. I think it is more user error that doesn't let them get your emails. No I didn't mean you...I meant them. | |
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