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Google: You Can't Sell Or Loan Your Google Glass
You Won't Technically Own The Nerd-World's Newest Toy
by Karl Bode 09:11AM Thursday Apr 18 2013
The tech specs for Google Glass were unveiled this week, highlighting how the device won't have a cellular radio -- or even 802.11N support in an effort to save battery life and lower the unit's weight. Wired noted another interesting tidbit in the Glass terms of service: once you've purchased your $1,500 glasses, you are technically prohibited from loaning them or selling them to another person.

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Like so much of the software and other content you buy, you technically won't own your expensive new toy and risk device deactivation if your buddy uses the gear:
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The company’s terms of service on the limited-edition wearable computer specifically states, “you may not resell, loan, transfer, or give your device to any other person. If you resell, loan, transfer, or give your device to any other person without Google’s authorization, Google reserves the right to deactivate the device, and neither you nor the unauthorized person using the device will be entitled to any refund, product support, or product warranty."
Granted terms of service are always packed with restrictions, and outside of the eBay sale ban, it's unclear if Google actually intends to try and enforce some of these sillier provisions -- which is obviously going to be an uphill battle.

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FFH
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Google doesn't want device on sale at eBay

This is probably so that Google doesn't have to see their high tech baby on sale on eBay for 10x the price some nerd paid for it.
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Re: Google doesn't want device on sale at eBay

Why would they want to prevent this? I think you're right, but I don't see the logic.

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Re: Google doesn't want device on sale at eBay

Because Google doesn't make any money on resales.

intok

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Re: Google doesn't want device on sale at eBay

said by Morac:

Because Google doesn't make any money on resales.

And? The guy that originally bought it will likely still buy another once they aren't on such short supply that they can be picked up anywhere. They still make 2 sales.

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Re: Google doesn't want device on sale at eBay

said by intok:

And? The guy that originally bought it will likely still buy another once they aren't on such short supply that they can be picked up anywhere. They still make 2 sales.

Not necessarily. Some people buy stuff simply to resell it. Once it becomes more readily available he may not buy another.
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Re: Google doesn't want device on sale at eBay

said by Morac:

said by intok:

And? The guy that originally bought it will likely still buy another once they aren't on such short supply that they can be picked up anywhere. They still make 2 sales.

Not necessarily. Some people buy stuff simply to resell it. Once it becomes more readily available he may not buy another.

Either way they still made their sale. If they wanted to they could put them on eBay themselves and see how much they could separate fools from their money for for the initial release up till the price stabilized at a low point.

EvelKub
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Private betas are common and the norm.
The $1500 fee is more a "participation fee" than to buy the product.

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Re: Google doesn't want device on sale at eBay

said by EvelKub:

Private betas are common and the norm.
The $1500 fee is more a "participation fee" than to buy the product.

If it's a beta then wouldn't you be signing an NDA?

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Then it isn't a purchase

First sale doctrine. So much for not being evil. Smells like they want to have accurate data mining. If you lend it or sell it, then the data they are collecting on YOU is no longer accurate.

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Re: Then it isn't a purchase

While I think Google does enough to violate its "do no evil" doctrine, I believe this has more to do with the fact that this is a beta product.

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Re: Then it isn't a purchase

Everything google is a "beta product".
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Re: Then it isn't a purchase

Not everything. A few of its products have actually left beta.

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Re: Then it isn't a purchase

Like Google Reader...it left beta and is leaving the planet. Nice knowin' ya Google Reader!
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said by skeechan:

First sale doctrine. So much for not being evil. Smells like they want to have accurate data mining. If you lend it or sell it, then the data they are collecting on YOU is no longer accurate.

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When I read the article what you wrote was the first thing that came to mind.
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And this will be the fall of this company.

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Can't sell or loan?

There goes my idea for renting them out to tourist.

Ok then. If I don't actually own them, how about a lease option rather than full price up front?
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Re: Can't sell or loan?

Set up an LLC. The LLC buys the Google Glasses. Then sell the LLC on Ebay.
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This is a physical product.

Physical good, not licensed software media. I'm not certain how they even remotely think they can get away with this legally.

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Re: This is a physical product.

Well, if Google is simply deactivating the software, you still have the physical device don't you?
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Re: This is a physical product.

said by openbox9:

Well, if Google is simply deactivating the software, you still have the physical device don't you?

The physical device does not do you much good once it is cut off from all its cloud-based services unless you plan to write apps to replace all the Google-powered stuff, which I suspect means just about everything.
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Re: This is a physical product.

Of course. Doesn't void the fact that you still have a piece of hardware that you paid for. I was responding to SunnyD See Profile's inquiry to the legality of Google denying a paid for physical device from consumers. Deactivating the software doesn't really deprive the consumer of the hardware, just the licensed software.
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The better question is how they plan on deactivating something that doesn't have a network connection.
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Re: This is a physical product.

So you aren't ever going to connect the device to a network? Seems even more pointless to me if you aren't connecting to WiFi.

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Isn't this just regarding the dev kit versions?

I heard about this restriction, but I thought this was Google warning devs receiving the early versions not to sell them ahead of their actual release...

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Re: Isn't this just regarding the dev kit versions?

it is, Karl jumped the gun.
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Re: Isn't this just regarding the dev kit versions?

Thats what I thought it was too, to prevent the game-console issue that happens every couple years, people in line for 3+ days, buying 10 consoles and selling them for 5x the retail price.

Google stops that, because even non-activated ones being sold, a different email address activates it, Google is going to know, so they set the expectation that isn't acceptable to people buying them, and selling them...

Is my understanding anyways.
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said by YogiYahooeys:

I heard about this restriction, but I thought this was Google warning devs receiving the early versions not to sell them ahead of their actual release...

Yes,
That is EXACTLY what it is. I just read this on another site and will say the same thing I said there.

I hate Google and everything about them!! Wouldn't want these things even if some one gave them to me and I COULD actually use them!!

The price of these things is absolutely stupid too!!
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junk data programm

Someone who knows how to code needs to write a program that surfs the web to random web sites. I'm not sure of the symantics of how it would work exactly but it would report all kinds of just junk data and miners would have useless banks of information to sell.
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The orgional Google Glass?


The orgional Google Glass?
Every time I see the Google Glasses it reminds me of The Last Starfighter..
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Re: The orgional Google Glass?

I love that movie . but loaning it sounds kind of odd coming from the saviors of the "freedom movement" i mean couldn't they implement different profiles in on devices.

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Re: The orgional Google Glass?

Nice, the Last Starfighter was 1984 I think that predates Dragonball-Z
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Is it just me

or would you like to punch someone wearing these glasses??? Sorry but if I saw some guy super geeking with these walking down the street I would have the urge to just punch him square in the middle of his face.

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Don't be evil

And by "evil" we mean "any different all the other restrictive technology companies in existence."
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We shall see...

as with any agreement forced upon consumers, we will eventually see what the courts ultimately have to say about this.

I personally do not see this clause standing up in a court fight.

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May I see your Google Glass registration & insurance, please

I can see it now. While you are running from the police, they contact Google and have them shut down your GPS.
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most of that TOS

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I already know

people that have walked around everyday with hidden cameras in their glasses with mem cards, what they need it for ? who knows, and I don't really care, probably pervs. But this is old news / technology, the only difference is it'll connect to an isp & be in real time. But people have been doing this for at least the last 5 or 6 years...