Google/T-Mobile Revamping Nexus One Upgrade Pricing

said by Telco_Tech:

Translation: "These things aren't selling nearly as well as we thought they would. Time to tinker with the pricing."

said by cableties:

Wasn't this like what Apple did with the iPhone?

Wow, squeaky gears do impulsively buy then have remorse!

said by pnh102:

You would think for the price at which this heap is being sold it would include full 3G GSM support (i.e., for AT&T 3G) as well as CDMA support right out of the box. Some Blackberries already have this, why can't this phone?

Fail indeed.

said by adisor19:

He ain't trolling. In fact, he raises a VERY FREAKIN VALID POINT !

The hype surrounding the Google phone has been greater than the when the WebOS was announced. It was supposed to be a revolution in terms of how a phone is sold, marketed and supported, yet low and behold, you can only use 3G in North America (that includes this place called Canada too, FYI) on only the AWS bands, therefor only on T-Mobile in the US.

How is this a revolution when the phone is technically limited to only 1 (ONE) 3G UMTS provider ?! What was to difficult for Google or rather HTC to use a newer baseband that supports ALL the major UMTS frequencies and would thus open up the phone to it being used on all major UMTS carriers in north America ?

As much as this thing has been hyped, it has also been artificially castrated by Google/HTC mostly to insure that Google's ally, T-Mobile, gets first dibs on it.

I expect the Nexus two to have all the frequency bands on it just like the rumoured future IPhone 4G. Only THEN, we could talk about a revolution.

Adi

said by ZachAttack:

Are you really trying to argue, the difference between $529 and $599 (less than a hundred dollars)?, $529, $569, $599...you're grasping at straws.

said by ZachAttack:

Are you really trying to argue, the difference between $529 and $599 (less than a hundred dollars)?, $529, $569, $599...you're grasping at straws.

said by pnh102:

I took a quick look at Verizon's site and they offer a few phones for under $500 that support quad band GSM. My argument is that for the price Google is offering the phone, why can't it be something better than what is already out there?

Why make something that works with the worst 3G-based network in the US but can only do pedestrian speeds at best with other GSM networks and 0 with CDMA, which is more widespread here to begin with?

said by tiger72:

And my argument is that it's *cheaper* than every other top-tier phone on the market, so why do you expect it to have an expensive 5-band UMTS chip that no other phone in the world has?

said by tiger72:

Why not do CDMA? Easy: Because the 900/2100 UMTS bands cover about a billion people. CDMA? notsomuch.

said by tiger72:

Why choose the 1700 band in the USA instead of the 1900 band? 2 reasons.

said by tiger72:

Also, you should probably define "worst" 3g network. I hope you realize that TMO's 3g network is at around 200 million POPs, while ATT's is only at 230 million POPs. Their 3g networks aren't much different in size anymore.
If it's in terms of speed, then TMO's network seems to get higher average speeds than Verizon..

said by pnh102:

Except that it isn't. The Nexus One costs more than the multi-band Verizon-offered Blackberries. The Nexus One, as it is more expensive, and it is newer technology, should offer something better. Why pay top dollar for a 19th century phone?

Then perhaps this phone should be offered in countries which do not make use of CDMA, like most everywhere but the USA. If you're going to offer something for sale in the USA and you hype it as being "network neutral", why not make it more likely to work here?

And if you are a common user, you don't care what the technical reasons are. It should "just work."

Yes, and that is the same argument AT&T uses... assuming you're in an area where you can get AT&T 3G service. T-Mobile's service footprint, especially for 3G, is geographically smaller than AT&T's.

said by optemino:

or t-mo could've just used the standard 3g frequency so nobody would run into this problem

said by aelingil:

Glee, they mess up and drop the pricing on new users. I still think that the T-mobile users that have been with them for a while, should still get the phone at a discount.

I'm going to wait another 6 months and when they decide that they are done bending current users over the table and then buy it.

said by Contents:

On launch day, I was a few button clicks away to buying a Nexus One, but requiring me to disrupt my family plan made me decide not to buy it. Figured I would wait until the plans got better.

The next couple days T-Mobile announced the release of the HTC HD2 in spring 2010 with a free WM7 upgrade. Multi touch 4.3" screen snapdragon goodness.

Thanks to Google for the heavy requirements (I was going to buy it), I would have regretted buying the Nexus One after the HD2 was announced. I have high hopes for WM7 and will be getting one of the first phones able to run it.

said by sonicmerlin:

Your hopes for WM 7 are severely, horrifically misplaced. These adjectives don`t even make sense in this context, which is why I`m using them to describe how bad Windows Mobile is.