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join:2003-10-24
Seabrook, TX | Not necessariliy competitive international rates Romania (both fixed and mobile) and Spain (mobile) are not competitive at all. Better off with CallWithUs or Future Nine (among others). | |
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 |  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
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USA
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1 edit | Re: Not necessariliy competitive international rates said by curro:Romania (both fixed and mobile) and Spain (mobile) are not competitive at all. Better off with CallWithUs or Future Nine (among others). It all comes down to using the service that gives the best rates for the country you ALWAYS call. Most people using VOIP services like this call 1 country only. They use it to keep in touch with family back in the old country. But the Google rates are competitive in most situations for many countries.
Based on source of US immigrant groups:
the people making international calls will be from these top 4 countries.
Rate for Mexico City - $.02/min
Rate for China - $.02/min
Rate for Philippines - $.11/min
Rate for India - $.06/min | |
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| |  SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | Re: Not necessariliy competitive international rates Who calls Mexico City? Look at the high rates for the rest of the country. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: Not necessariliy competitive international rates said by SLD:Who calls Mexico City? Look at the high rates for the rest of the country. Mexico City metro - 21 million people.
Mexico 111 million people.
I suspect there would be many calls to Mexico City(about 20%) | |
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join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | Re: Not necessariliy competitive international rates Exactly - more than 80% of callers will be paying a whopping $0.10/ minute. I say more than 80% because most calls will orginate from the border region.
I guess there is a good reason why the richest man in the world is America Movil's (read Mexican telecom) Carlos Slim Helu. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: Not necessariliy competitive international rates that is also due to him getting in the prepaid phone business in the USA. He owns TracFone/Net Ten and does own straight talk. with a few others. | |
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| | nitzanPremium,VIP
join:2008-02-27
kudos:2 | said by Romney2012:Rate for Mexico City - $.02/min Rate for China - $.02/min Rate for India - $.06/min These rates are about 50-100% higher than other providers. Not competitive at all. The international voice market is full of people looking for best bang for the buck - so even a penny more will make a huge difference. Simply put- Google will only get business from people who don't realize they have alternatives. (granted- there are a lot of people like that) | |
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| | | Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
join:2002-03-03
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kudos:4 | Re: Not necessariliy competitive international rates said by nitzan:said by Romney2012:Rate for Mexico City - $.02/min Rate for China - $.02/min Rate for India - $.06/min These rates are about 50-100% higher than other providers. Not competitive at all. The international voice market is full of people looking for best bang for the buck - so even a penny more will make a huge difference. Simply put- Google will only get business from people who don't realize they have alternatives. (granted- there are a lot of people like that) Any links to competitors rates for those locations? | |
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kudos:4 | Re: Not necessariliy competitive international rates Looking at those numbers, Google is not the absolute cheapest, but they are certainly competitive. | |
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| | | So what. I don't make international calls so I don't really care if they charge $23420348023948 a minute or they give it away for free. | |
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| |  brianPremium
join:2002-05-02
Lake Forest, CA
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| Re: Not necessariliy competitive international rates said by battleop:... I don't really care ... until that one time you actually do have to make an international call. | |
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| | | | | Re: Not necessariliy competitive international rates Yea, well I work for a voice provider so that's probably not going to be much of a problem. | |
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| Good, but I & others will indeed want more said by OldschoolDSL:Google Voice would really make a loud "bang" in the digital world if they offered something outside the desktop. I'd like to see them take on Vonage and other VoIp Provided. The majority of people do not want to be stuck / tied to their desktop to make a phone call. Personally speaking... I already use my Google Voice Number is my primary number, because of the services it provides. I do not even remember what my real home or cell number is. I quote myself, because it seemed to be the general thought in which many agreed with & I do not think I can say it any better.
I know we have a few Google employees who watch this site, so this is my call out to them.
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| nonymousPremium
join:2003-09-08
Glendale, AZ | Re: Good, but I & others will indeed want more Yes but then the cost would change. The service would most likely then fall under taxes. Plus Google voice would need to charge. Then it would not be free and for some the glow would vanish. | |
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1 edit | Re: Good, but I & others will indeed want more said by nonymous:Yes but then the cost would change. The service would most likely then fall under taxes. Plus Google voice would need to charge. Then it would not be free and for some the glow would vanish. Google has already quoted that the service will remain free for the rest of the year... ie ... After it will cost.
Yes, every phone company charges tax. But its a small price I'd be willing to pay.
I'd like to see them offer VoIp and not just an app for cell phones, but VoIp for home phone use. | |
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| Re: Good, but I & others will indeed want more Google will NEVER deploy a standalone device to replace the "phone". Why you ask? It is because they will be FORCED to offer actual support. Google has already said time and time again they WILL NOT do this. Look at what happened to N1. They never offered support or anything else for a device that had as much issues it did changing networks.
Google is staying where it is at. This product will never go beyond what it is today.
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2 edits | standalone VoIP software like Skype? Will google also release a standalone VoIP software like Skype?
Or will you always need to use your gmail account with a browser? | |
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| | | Re: standalone VoIP software like Skype? Well they already have google talk which is an application on its own.
Can't see how it would be too tough for them to integrate this into that. | |
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|  DerchPremium
join:2004-10-16
Cross Plains, WI
·Charter
| Ooma already has a Google Voice extension for your GV VM, displaying your GV number on your Ooma line, and other features. The downside is that it costs $10 a month or $120 yearly. Closest thing I've seen so far.
»www.ooma.com/premier/features | |
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| | | | Re: standalone VoIP software like Skype? that maybe the downside but at least with Ooma you get support. Google doesn't offer that. | |
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join:2006-09-22
Lanesboro, MA
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1 edit | Re: Browser plugin I am pretty sure it's a false positive. I was referring more to web exploits that could use the plugin as a vehicle of delivery, especially since it has to do with calling actual phone numbers, probably making an exploit potentially lucrative. Every plugin has that potential for exploitation, like most sets of code that were ever written. It has been illustrated with Flash too, hence why I have it and my browser sandboxed. Now that we have a new proprietary plugin(Gmail talk), you would need a profile to sandbox that. However, with it being new and proprietary, it can be hard for the community to make a sure-fire profile to contain every part of it without interfering with its operation. It can be done, but look how long it took for AppArmor to sandbox Flash(which it really does by sandboxing the entire browser as well as the plugin loader), as an example.
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join:2003-08-04
USA
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2 edits | Exactly.... I WOULDNT WANNA INSTALL THIER PIECE OF CRAP SOFTWARE!! | |
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SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | Same company? Is this the same company that wants a two-tier Internet and now promots anti-net-neutrality? No thanks! | |
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| | | Re: Same company? and yet now they have ties to the CIA and other departments of DHS. Great way to funnel calls for NSA. Especially international ones. | |
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| | Google Voice I'm tired of Canada being a second class country. There is absolutely no reason why they need to block Canadians from signing up... I'm not asking for a Canadian phone number, just to be able to access the service like an US person. | |
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| openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: Google Voice If only we'd annexed Canada a while back.... | |
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| morph69
join:2001-09-03
Penetanguishene, ON | it works in my canadian gmail account already | |
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join:2001-08-30
Springfield, OR | Gmail only? too bad.. :/ was looking forward to this as a Google Voice user, shame there's only Gmail support...
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join:2000-12-16
St Thomas, VI
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| I only care for an app for this Really, that's it. If there is no app that I can use this with then I don't care. I already pay for skype out (which worked great today while Google's VoIP didn't) and have free calls to canada and mexico.
BUT I don't want to be lugging my damn laptop across the countryside just to make a damn phone call to avoid ridiculous roaming.
yes, yes i am fully aware of buying prepaid sim cars.
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| | | Re: I only care for an app for this what do you need the App for if you're already using a device for that makes phone calls? you using an iPod touch? that is far from a "calling device"  | |
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| Re: I only care for an app for this Because why should I carry a cellphone and an ipod touch around?? Don't get me wrong..I may end up purchasing one anyways but I already have enough stuff in my pockets.
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join:2001-02-17
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| Calling international I currently use Google Voice to call Philippines. The rate is .17 per min. to cell. land line is .11; cell is the predominate phone service there.
The advantage is calling directly from computer and not ringing my cell. I'm hoping the call will be better.
Sometimes the call quality is not that good, however that might be in the Philippines side.
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|  AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ | Re: Calling international The reason we dropped Skype over GV was that the quality was much better over the phone. The dowside was that it uses airtime minutes.
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