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Google's Stanford Fiber Trial Comes Online
$250 Professional Install, $50 Self Install
by Karl Bode Tuesday 19-Jul-2011 tags: competition · coverage · business · alternatives · bandwidth · consumers · Google
While Google's planned 1 Gbps fiber deployment in both Kansas Cities (Missouri and Kansas) is still some time away, the company's fiber trial in Stanford is now officially online. Announced in October of last year, the Stanford deployment was intended to reach about 850 subscribers, and was designed to be a trial run for the broader deployment in Kansas City. The Stanford build is being run by Sonic.net, who is now deploying 1 Gbps service under their own Fusion brand in a number of markets. Google confirms to the Palo Alto Patch that the Stanford network has come online for some users, with professional installation costing $250, and self installation costing $50. Aside from the install fee it's free for a year, though Google hasn't announced what they plan to charge after that first year is up.

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xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Third party rollout/support

With Sonic operating the Stanford rollout I wonder if Surewest in KC will operate that rollout. They already have fiber in KC and have the support structure in place. If Google doesn't use them, I'll be surprised.

Edit: Or perhaps Sonic sets up shop in KC?

Has anything been leaked yet on what infrastructure they are using? Hardware vendors, etc?
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: Third party rollout/support

Also odd that we have price for install but not price for service. Who is going to buy service only knowing the install price? Weird.

CompNrdCR

@liquid.com

Re: Third party rollout/support

They will be charging $70 a month... It was listed in one of the articles linked in the main post.

I have their Fusion DSL and love it.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: Third party rollout/support

yeah, saw that was Sonic pricing for their own rollout (independent of Google) but didn't realize it was Google's pricing. sure that it is the same?

mmay149q
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Re: Third party rollout/support

said by xenophon:

yeah, saw that was Sonic pricing for their own rollout (independent of Google) but didn't realize it was Google's pricing. sure that it is the same?

Aside from the install fee it's free for a year

Most likely Google is going to use that time to see what all information they can get from all the web-sites and etc that you use, and then they are going to see what that cost will subsidize vs their cost of building the infrastructure. And also take time to see what they can do ad wise that doesn't piss customers off and they can "inject" that ad into the browser (maybe in a non annoying way? Who knows) or something like that. They'll find a way to make additional revenue from you.

After the year is up you'll most likely see a pricing for it, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's relatively low just because of all the $$$ they'll be getting from selling your info/ad's (knowing Google they will probably had ad's everywhere) To be honest, I'd actually be completely satisfied with ad support on a 1Gbps/1Gbps that was heavily subsidized to $50 - $70 a month, and I wouldn't complain, I'd probably host more than the 2 servers I host now off my 35Mbps/35Mbps connection xD

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xenophon

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Re: Third party rollout/support

yeah, i'm sure they'll make much more data mining the connection on top of ads. i don't care if they do as long as it's truly anonymous - and it may not be. this will be google's biggest privacy test to date.

hope it's free in kc the first year.
hottboiinnc
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i could see Google doing the ad bar thing that free isps did years ago.

but remember this is only a test market and don't count on Google actually even keeping the service up after the first year. And google will do more than collect your data- they SELL that data to advertisers.

mmay149q
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Re: Third party rollout/support

said by hottboiinnc:

i could see Google doing the ad bar thing that free isps did years ago.

but remember this is only a test market and don't count on Google actually even keeping the service up after the first year. And google will do more than collect your data- they SELL that data to advertisers.

It was shown above Google has to keep that network up for at least 3 years, so why wouldn't they keep it up after a year?

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Kamus

join:2011-01-27
El Paso, TX
said by hottboiinnc:

i could see Google doing the ad bar thing that free isps did years ago.

but remember this is only a test market and don't count on Google actually even keeping the service up after the first year. And google will do more than collect your data- they SELL that data to advertisers.

So? who cares if they stopped after a year. 50 bucks for world wide gigabit Ethernet.
If you are an internet user and got offered this, you'd have to be a chump to pass it up.

AVD
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said by hottboiinnc:

And google will do more than collect your data- they SELL that data to advertisers.

[CITATION NEEDED] where can I buy this data?
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That's what sonic charges. However, according to The Stanford Daily »www.stanforddaily.com/2011/07/14···-campus/
the service is free for one year after the cost of the install, Google will then determine the continued pricing.
At the end of 3 years (end of the google-Stanford agreement) GoogleFiber inc. will reevaluate and determine future plans.

So no set in stone price, but a free year for the cost of a very reasonable install is a no brainer

davoice

join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC
The monthly cost for the first year is $0. That's been stated by Google many times. This the price for the service is $0 for the next 12 months. They are using it as a trial.

kcdude

@sbcglobal.net

Re: Third party rollout/support

hope the KC rollout is free for a year.

whfsdude
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IPv6

Are they deploying dual stack IPv4 and IPv6 to customers?

Matt
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Re: IPv6

said by whfsdude:

Are they deploying dual stack IPv4 and IPv6 to customers?

Is the sky falling or something?

fifty nine

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Sussex, NJ
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Re: IPv6

said by Matt:

said by whfsdude:

Are they deploying dual stack IPv4 and IPv6 to customers?

Is the sky falling or something?

No, we're just thinking ahead.

Matt
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Re: IPv6

said by fifty nine:

said by Matt:

said by whfsdude:

Are they deploying dual stack IPv4 and IPv6 to customers?

Is the sky falling or something?

No, we're just thinking ahead.

Rather, adding unnecessary complexity at an inopportune time.

whfsdude
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Re: IPv6

said by Matt:

Rather, adding unnecessary complexity at an inopportune time.

Not at all. They will be rolling out new CPEs to customers for the service. They can add the support now, rather than having to upgrade their entire customer base in two years.
dmelling

join:2009-02-26
New Paris, OH

I wish they were in my town!

»sonic.net/solutions/home/internet/fusion/

Gbcue
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Re: I wish they were in my town!

Heh.

I'll wait for Sonic's 1Gbps project and then move somewhere else in town.
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AndyDufresne
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Number of markets?

"The company is deploying 1 Gbps downstream, 100 Mbps upstream service to about sixty homes in Sonoma County, with plans to offer the service to 640 homes by the end of the year."

640 homes qualifies as number of markets?
Ricanlegend

join:2011-05-18
Bronx, NY

Re: Number of markets?

Wow FREE FOR A YEAR thats amazing GOOGLE come to NYC we need you
Cogdis

join:2007-03-26
Floral Park, NY

Re: Number of markets?

The price is nice, but what about those speeds! And here I thought I had it good with Fios!
videomatic3

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Pleasanton, CA

Re: Number of markets?

1gbps up and down
ITALIAN926

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LMAO , never happen

Michail
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Re: Number of markets?

said by ITALIAN926:

LMAO , never happen

I remember people saying that about the first cable broadband offerings.

mix

join:2002-03-19
Utica, MI
Ha, I was thinking the same thing.

Thrudd Beta

@bell.ca

Re: Number of markets?

Come to Canada - we need you in southern Ontario
ExTechnician

join:2011-05-25
Sarnia, ON

Re: Number of markets?

said by Thrudd Beta :

Come to Canada - we need you in southern Ontario

Yea come to canada, its probably cheaper for them to build the network in southern ontario. If you are in the Windsor area MNSI put up a 600+ count fiber across the entire city, rumor has it some sort of FTTH project could be underway.
iansltx

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Incorrect article, but Fusion DSL ($40/mo for one line of DSL + phone, $70/month for two, bonded) is available across a pretty wide area and is competitive with U-Verse/cable below $100 per month.

bbrkdub

join:2001-10-03
Houston, TX
said by AndyDufresne:

640 homes qualifies as number of markets?

640 homes ought to be enough for anybody
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Maybe Sonoma County is a market; with San Francisco, San Mateo, and Santa Clara Counties being other markets? They are looking to expand fiber beyond Sonoma County.
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anonymous1

@cableone.net

doesnt surprise me...

Im sure their will be some pitfalls along the way, hence the free service which creates buzz and google saves face for headaches if something does wrong... Customer services new quote will be its free what do you expect?

Jeffrey
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Long Island
kudos:3

A bargain

$250 for install + $0 for the first year is something that no savvy consumer in the foot-print should ignore.

I'd be on that white on rice. Or flies on horseshit. Take your pick.

mmay149q
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join:2009-03-05
Dallas, TX
kudos:48

Re: A bargain

said by Jeffrey:

$250 for install + $0 for the first year is something that no savvy consumer in the foot-print should ignore.

Yeah I couldn't turn down 1/1Gbps for $20.83 a month for the year (That's what it would cost to pay off a $250 installation fee)

Matt

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P.S.S Please come service Texas, specifically the Plano region!! I'll test the sh*t out of your 1Gbps service!!!!!
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kerya666

join:2002-12-20
Valrico, FL

Re: A bargain

I would definitely love that deal. Too bad neither Google or Sonic is deploying anything in central Florida. It would be a great market for them I would think.
Oh well ...a man can always hope

tshirt
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said by Jeffrey:

$250 for install + $0 for the first year is something that no savvy consumer in the foot-print should ignore.


It certainly is. but you first need to be a qualified buyer i.e. standford faculty, or upper level staff, and get on a multiyear waiting list to buy one of $700k and up (some are WAY up) homes in order to get this deal.
SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

Google's payback to Stanford

Google isn't just doing this out of the goodness of its heart. Stanford's "Center for the Internet and Society," especially Barbara Van Schewick, lobbies for Google's corporate agenda full time and has received many millions from Google. And Stanford owns quite a lot of Google stock.
tdouglas22

join:2001-09-25
Memphis, TN

Re: Google's payback to Stanford

I see nothing wrong with that. People do it all the time so I'm not surprised to see it done in business as well. Not to mention the fact that the research date done with this project could help bridge the gap in fiber to the home internet deployment.

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