 Jodokast96Stupid people really piss me off.Premium join:2005-11-23 Erial, NJ kudos:2 2 edits | You got the story totally wrong... Did you even read that article? He is already a Linux user, but needs to switch to Windows or give up a pc since the software only runs on Windows. There is no getting around it for him. | |
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| Re: You got the story totally wrong... He also wasn't just a user, he was one of he operators. Which (in the US) means he was actively distributing. Using, as far as I know, isn't a felony, yet. | |
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The article should be deleted and completely re-written. It isn't as if there's a little spin on it, or written with a slight bias. The author has completely changed the story! | |
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 Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 | Seems he hasn't learned anything according to his whining
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2007/08/21 Opinions Needed
So, I am getting shafted by the Justice Department again...
Here goes: I had a meeting with my probation officer today, and he told me that he has to install monitoring software onto my PC. No big deal to me, that is part of my sentence. However, their software doesnt support GNU/Linux (Which is what I use). So, he told me that if I want to use a computer, I would have to use an OS that the software can be installed on. Which basically means: MICROSOFT AND MONITORING SOFTWARE or NO COMPUTER. I use Ubuntu 7.04 now, and they are trying to force me to switch.
First they give me 2 felonys, then they throw me in prison, and now this... // sk0t @ 11:58 AM He seems to think he is some poor abused nice guy instead of the felon he is. Apparently he has learned nothing from his experience. -- -- Internet News My BLOG My Web Page | |
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 |  hopeflickerCapitalism breeds greedPremium join:2003-04-03 Long Beach, CA kudos:1 | Re: Seems he hasn't learned anything according to his whining He should not be forced to switch. His probation officer should look into monitoring SW for his system. -- People pray to God because they're told to. | |
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 |  |  gaforcesUnited We Stand, Divided We Fall join:2002-04-07 Santa Cruz, CA 2 edits | Re: Seems he hasn't learned anything according to his whining From what Ive seen, they can take away all his pc/equipment and ban him from using the net period.
He is lucky he gets on the net/access to computer at all. Dont mess wit George Lucas! (this is the guy who had torrent revenge of the sith 6 hours before it released  | |
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 |  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: Seems he hasn't learned anything according to his whining .. and Paris Hilton and all of her cronies who are using drugs, drinking and driving, and putting people's lives in danger only get a few hours to days in jail.
I see the justice. -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." | |
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 |  |  bennorPremium join:2006-07-22 New Haven, CT | This is why he has to switch: »www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21973···-windows
"However, the [monitoring] software doesn't support GNU/Linux. So he told me that if I want to use a computer, I would have to use an OS that the software can be installed on.
"Which basically means Microsoft and monitoring software or no computer. I use Ubuntu 7.04 now, and they are trying to force me to switch." | |
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 |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK Reviews:
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| said by Romney2012:He seems to think he is some poor abused nice guy instead of the felon he is. The punishment doesn't fit the crime. He's learned something alright. The lesson is about injustice in America. -- "Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!) | |
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 |  |  hopeflickerCapitalism breeds greedPremium join:2003-04-03 Long Beach, CA kudos:1 | Re: Seems he hasn't learned anything according to his whining said by KrK:said by Romney2012:He seems to think he is some poor abused nice guy instead of the felon he is. The punishment doesn't fit the crime. He's learned something alright. The lesson is about injustice in America. dont forget greed, too. -- People pray to God because they're told to. | |
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 |  KearnstdElf WizardPremium join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ | difference is PH has tons of money and is famous. she could run over a crowd of school children while drunk and get a slap on the wrist. our justice system isnt equal if you have tons of money and moderate fame. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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 |  ReformCRTCSupport Your Independent ISP join:2004-03-07 Canada | I would hope that he would tell his probie officer to go f off. | |
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 fcislerPremium join:2004-06-14 Riverhead, NY | what BS If they pulled this s*it on me, i'd move to canada! | |
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 |  slckusrPremium join:2003-03-17 Maumee, OH kudos:1 | Re: what BS too bad he is a felon.
broke law got caught now is crying about his punishment. | |
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| Re: what BS said by slckusr:too bad he is a felon. broke law got caught now is crying about his punishment. I think that you are right in regards to him serving his punishment. But the article is not exactly clear on what he has served. It sounds like he has served the 5 month imprisonment, but the home confinement is in question.
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Using monitoring software and wearing a monitoring bracelet were bitter enough pill Why would he have to wear a monitoring bracelet unless he was still on home confinement? In other words, it sounds like he is still serving part of his punishment.
Now when his home confinement is over, I would think all monitoring software would be over also. -- Without data, it is just an opinion | |
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| said by fcisler:If they pulled this s*it on me, i'd move to canada! Would Canada even allow you in with a felony??? | |
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 bennorPremium join:2006-07-22 New Haven, CT 1 edit | What happens after probation is up? What that article don't mention (unless I missed it) is if the monitoring software will only be used as long as he's on probation, or if it will continue to be used after his probation is up.
And as the article points out, it's either use Windows or don't use a computer at all. | |
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| It's a Fine Time for Porn! Seriously, if you're being monitored on the internet by the government...why not have a little fun with the content monitors? 4chan away there good buddy! Make sure our tax monies are well spent purousing every little fetish you can think to Google.  | |
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 |  |  ThalerPremium join:2004-02-02 Los Angeles, CA kudos:3 | Re: It's a Fine Time for Porn! Last time I checked, boobs aren't illegal. Any illegal imagery on 4chan is managed by the administrative staff and removed.
What're they going to do, haul him in for browsing "world's sexiest midget foursome"? | |
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| He Got Off Easy This criminal scumbag should have been shipped to Gitmo with the rest of the terrorists. He was a menace to society and single-handedly caused untold billions of dollars worth of economic damage to the United States. I wouldn't be surprised if his name was Ackbar or Mohammed.
I hope the FBI continues to monitor him and his family until he keels over. | |
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| Re: He Got Off Easy Yes, what a hardcore scumbag. His crime?
"McCausland supplied the network with with Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith more than six hours before it was first shown in theatres."
Wow. What a vicious criminal. Billions, you say. Billions.
I think the BS is getting deep, here. -- "Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!) | |
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 |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Wow! Maybe you would be more suited for a middle eastern country.. why not just chop his hands off?? or poke his eyes out too...
Justice in this country is NOT revenge, you idiot. Opinions or not, its opinions/views like yours that destroys this country FAR more than some guy sending out the movie.
I will state - I DO NOT AGREE WITH FILE SHARING! I NEVER HAVE.. but I find it FAR worse to run across people like you who like to live in the wild west and totally miss the point of The Department of CORRECTIONS.
We put people through CORRECTIONS to CORRECT a problem. We don't call file shares terrorist and we certainly don't come here and post offensive slants either. So, his name is Acbar or Mohammed? Why don't you just call him a Ni***r too?
Billions? Untold economic damage to the United States?
Please - Call George Bush and let him know you were left behind.
Mods - have a blast!  -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." | |
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 |  |  | | Re: He Got Off Easy Dude, he was yanking your chain. Personally, I found his exaggerating of the situation rather amusing, though I am sad to say that it's not that much of an exaggeration from how many people see it. How ever, criminal or not, I find the thought of sentencing some one to using windows to be a bit crewel and unusual. I also have to wonder what the repercussions could be if his banking info were to be stolen because he was forced to use a system that is known to be insecure, rather then continuing to use his secure system. Not that I expect it to happen, but it would make for some interesting legal actions. There are also many simple ways to monitor a user in Linux that would be far harder to slip around then with windows. I do think it's a rather poor precedent to set that the court is telling some one they have to buy something they don't want or need and in no way is involved in the crime or legal punishment, just to make it simpler for some one that is too lazy to use effective monitoring methods to watch what he does. | |
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 |  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: He Got Off Easy said by MstrFool :
Dude, he was yanking your chain. around these parts, it's hard to tell sometimes.. especially an anon user.. sometimes that old works wonders. -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." | |
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| Part of the sentence Switching to microshit operating system is part of the sentence and punishment. If it were considered NOT part of the punishment, I would have his attitude if I were him: no way microshit. However, since using an impossibly expensive, buggy, unworking and incapable OS is PART of the punishment, then it is OK. The reason it is considered OK is that he is a criminal who is still serving sentence. Yes, his prison told him he finished his sentence, but that was not completely true: he only finished that portion of his sentence.
Will VMWARE (free version) work with the monitoring software? He could use Linux with the monitoring software running still. Microshit OS and a good anti-virus & spyware software could be the only thing he has to buy. But that wasn't my point. | |
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US government should get their stuff in gear. If they can't monitor Linux users guess what OS all the terr0r1sts will begin using. HaHaHaHa.... Thats a good one!!! | |
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 | | Draw Mickey Mouse + seed it on bit torrent = prison. Can someone please explain to me how copyright infringement is not solely a civil matter? It seems to me that we have better things our criminal courts could be doing.(for example: charging the RIAA with racketeering) | |
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 |  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: Vmware What's to stop him from having another machine? what's to stop him from using other computers at other locations?? There are MANY ways he can get around this.. it's the f-ing Government idoits in charge doing dumb a** things.
Sorry - he served his time - let him be. Probation? for this?? It's just another cash grab for the government.. their department of corrections, which is anything but, is poorly ran and ineffective. When you do the crime, you pay the time.. THAT'S IT!
If the Gov, however, really wanted to monitor him, they'd require a special router/modem where they could monitor traffic that way. -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." | |
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 |  BrendanWarr Guitar is here join:2000-07-14 Littleton, CO | Re: Perspective They are. It's called RealID and it's coming to a state near you, next year. Get used to hearing "Papers, please!" (I live in Colorado, which is not supporting the legislation). The government also wants to microchip all immigrants; next it will be you. -- You say Macs are expensive? Bah! My guitar was more expensive than three new Macs! (I know, I bought three new Macs in the past year) | |
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Just like the Gov't can't say, you can drive on a restricted license to/from work but ONLY if you drive a Ford. | |
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Would be close enough to giving them the middle finger. Invite a few thousand or so of his best friends to join in the fun. That should send them a go F&*k yourself message. 
They already made him a felon, What could they do give him life? After probation move to a different state internet access problem solved. -- Come on crazy mutant desert men, just because they got Jr. in the car doesn't mean they have Bud on the car. | |
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 CyberRagePremium,MVM join:2001-03-21 Jasper, AL | Forced to Windows Forced to use Winderz..... sounds like cruel and unusual punishment. | |
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 veloslaveGeek For GodPremium join:2003-07-11 Pleasant Hill, CA | Lucky o be out of prison And REAL lucky to be able to use the net.
Thieves are supposed to be punished to stop theft. He stole AND distributed.
Again, he is quite lucky no matter what the dang OS is. -- Mom was right.... I NEED fiber! | |
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 |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: Lucky o be out of prison said by veloslave:Thieves are supposed to be punished to stop theft. He stole AND distributed. He went to prison and did his time. Enough is enough.. Prison was harsh enough for this.. he paid dearly with his freedom. This long, drawn out BS that the gov loves to do to people does MORE harm to people than good.
I agree with others, and even though I'm against file sharing in general, I'm also against this being criminal.. it should be a civil matter.
The moment you put a criminal statute behind this, it becomes the government for hire as private security. -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." | |
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 |  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: Lucky o be out of prison One statement... Let the punishment fit the crime.
White color boys in prison learn their ways fast. The government, like everything they do, is bass ackwards. Locking someone up and doing a check up that gets put in a report that is never read really does a GREAT job of deterring.
If you look at statistics, 90+ % of offenders repeat their crime.
Theft is theft.. yes.. I never said that it shouldn't be dealt with, but today's CORRECTIONS department is run by vindictive eye for eye people..
The "system" is horrible and never achieves anything and is often over reaching.
For the record.. our government sucks... they often fail. -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." | |
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 Asmodeus join:2004-05-26 Spring Valley, CA | convicted felons... have no say so with regards to their probationary status... if he is required to switch to windows, then it's either do that or not compute... he has a choice in the matter and he's actually lucky that he was even given a choice... convicted felons are just that... they are diminished citizens at the mercy of the judiciary... unfortunately, he is now pretending to be a victim and is whining like one... sure he can get his lawyer to try and change the terms of his probation, but that is unlikely to get past the judge and the prosecution will fight it very aggressively and he will lose... wasted time, wasted money all because he doesn't like windows...
if you want to argue about the validity of what theft is in relation to copyright infringement, go ahead, but he didn't infringe on anyone copyright... he was busted for distribution of copyrighted material without the expressed permission of the copyright holder nor with the knowledge that he obtained the copyrighted material lawfully and without permission... that isn't a civil offence, that is a criminal offense... too bad, so sad... | |
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