 | | FCC And we keep asking the FCC for help why? This proves the FCC can't even do a job they're given the task to complete and handle. Why should we permit them to do anything else?? | |
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 |  vpokoPremium join:2003-07-03 Boston, MA | Re: FCC Or maybe we could give them the tools to actually do their job, like legislation with some teeth in it. | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: FCC said by 25139889:they have that for telephone services. And that's all they need. They can go back and check- they just don't. they're busying trying to regulate the Internet instead. Why give them more power? So AT&T can't get away with more fraud?
Stop being such a transparent corporate boot-licking fanboy. | |
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Quit rallying behind a broken system, while turning around and trying to champion more, useless legislation. | |
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| Re: FCC said by Montezuma:AT&T made close to $20 billion USD, in profit, last year. As such, AT&T does not need any government funding, of any kind.
Is your theory that since AT&T earns realizes a large profit they would not be involved with regulatory shenanigans or that since AT&T realizes such a large profit from their regulatory shenanigans the lawsuit is just a cost of doing business, win, lose or draw? | |
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We gave them squat so they produced nothing more than some maps.
Allowing the old men in the GOP to make decisions about technology was never going to end well. | |
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 |  |  GbcueP.E.Premium join:2001-09-30 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:8 | Bingo! Some enforcement ability would be nice. | |
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| Re: FCC said by Gbcue:anything at all Dang! When did you get back? -- The Dark Tower's Skynet evolves from 4chan. | |
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| Yep. It's funny what the equivalent FCC has been able to accomplish and achieve in Europe and Asia-Pac give the right tools.
For starters, following universal cellular frequency bands saved them billions. Whereas, we had to get out equipment customized for our markets. | |
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 |  jester121Premium join:2003-08-09 Lake Zurich, IL | As is obvious from the quoted portion of the suit, the FCC clearly has no comprehension that maybe scammers are smart enough to bounce their calls to make it appear to be domestic. They don't even understand the industry/technology they're supposed to be regulating, so they do a piss poor job. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: FCC The FCC doesnt need to know this. It is AT&T's job to know this and figure it out. It is their system they are "hacking" to do this, AT&T just doesnt care because they get paid handsomely for it so why try to stop it? Thus the lawsuit and hopefully criminal charges against that those allowed it. | |
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The FCC are not a police force. That's why you see the DOJ coming and and suing them for breaking the law. This is EXACTLY how it's supposed to happen. | |
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 |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | Go FCC. | |
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| said by 25139889:And we keep asking the FCC for help why? This proves the FCC can't even do a job they're given the task to complete and handle. And it further proves what I've believed for years about AT&T being pure evil, acting in ways that don't just betray the public trust, but fly in the face of it. | |
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 morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000 | Was AT&T the only one committing fraud? Do we know if AT&T was the only telecom provider letting the obvious fraud go unchecked? If Verizon also had IP Relay service business, did they erect a system of checks and balances? | |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Easier Solution Perhaps the Congress should end this subsidy instead. | |
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 |  | | Re: Easier Solution said by pnh102:Perhaps the Congress should end this subsidy instead. and sue them for past money sent plus damages. i know nothing on this but it sounds like they are being accessories of the crime. | |
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 | | IP....Relay picture That picture is of a generic Ethernet controlled electrical relay (AKA an IP Relay). It has nothing to do with AT&T's Relay service. what gives?.....Did you guys get busted using the first Google image search result? LOL | |
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| Re: IP....Relay picture said by cablegeek01:That picture is of a generic Ethernet controlled electrical relay (AKA an IP Relay). It has nothing to do with AT&T's Relay service. Well Dang. That pretty well invalidates the whole story, doesn't it. -- The Dark Tower's Skynet evolves from 4chan. | |
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 | | hah I bet most of the cell phone customer's paid this bill. | |
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How would Sal and Richard make their phony phone calls? | |
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all those crying fowl that at&t didn't do anything to stop this are probably the same people downloading movies and complaining that their ISPs are turning over their names to RIAA or shaping traffic to slow down torrents.
Think about it. at&t runs the network; they shouldn't be the police force for what is on the network.
the way to fix this is have the (real) users of the system pay upfront for the service and be reimbursed upon proof of disability. I'm sure the Social Security Admnistration knows who is legally disabled and who is not. | |
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| Re: Cannot have it both ways, people! said by CannotHaveIt :Think about it. at&t runs the network; they shouldn't be the police force for what is on the network. You are comparing apples to oranges, the two situations are not similar at all. | |
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 |  brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON | Your post makes no sense at all. | |
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 | | But who's going to pay for my political campaign? said by Karl Bode : Obviously there's plenty of government culpability here as well for running yet another program where it takes years to realize that just maybe somebody should stop throwing slush fund money at giant carriers.
I want the money. | |
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| Re: Police Force AT&T can't make or enforce rules on their own. They are merely pointing out that they or any other Gov't contractor will do only what is specificaly required by the contract.
This shows that all contracts MUST be let with SPECIFIC instruction and truely punitive penalties for non-compliance. also the cost of the contract/program needs to include INDEPENDENT watchdog and outside auditing, with public results. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Police Force You're right inasmuch as they can't unilaterally change the terms or rules, but there is some fiduciary duty IMO, to point out fraud/waste/abuse. Yet, they chose to do essentially nothing except keep sucking in the $. | |
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 |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | Nope, but neither should they pay people who are defrauding them.
The Federal Government will prosecute or sue health providers they prove are scamming them on Medicare. I see this as little different. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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 |  |  brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON | Re: Police Force said by KrK:Nope, but neither should they pay people who are defrauding them.
The Federal Government will prosecute or sue health providers they prove are scamming them on Medicare. I see this as little different. It isn't any different. AT&T is knowingly defrauding the government. | |
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 skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium join:2012-01-26 AA169|170 kudos:2 | Take them for 100X the profit they made Only when it is more expensive to break the law will they start obeying it. | |
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 dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | Get ready IP relay compliance fee . . . . . . . . . . $0.34 | |
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 |  | | Re: Get ready Great! It is about time, see first post. Use succinctly and judiciously. | |
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 patcat88 join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY kudos:1 | A non disabled use for IP Relay My PC doesn't have a phone in it, and I often dont have my phone on me when I'm at the PC. So rather than scream so the whole house hears me. I call my house on IP Relay so the misses picks up and tell her to get me a beer. Thanks IP Relay. | |
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 | | Don't Soon Forget the NSA So how does one take the heat off some other Crazy ATT/Government bed wetting? Ace in the hole Fraud Suit.. That keeps the masses happy that a spanking is coming, or does it? humm! | |
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 | | Quite Pleased with DOJ I am quite pleased with this DOJ action, it is about time! | |
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 | | You betcha. IP Relay has been going on since 2002. Those calls have been 95 percent fraud calls by Nigerians. The government paid 16 million since December 2009. I would say that the government has paid AT&T at least 70 million since 2002. The government has paid AT&T at least 70 million tax payers dollars to have Nigerians steal from American businesses and citizens with stolen credit cards. | |
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