  ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN
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| Price cuts? How about a damn upgrade in speed!? 384upload should not even be allowed unless its isdn or some small company offering it.
CC needs to get with the program and not just up speeds to where theres competition..if thats going to be the case, ill be stuck at 384upload for a long time coming. -- "I am the worst president in US history, I'm either stupid or dumb most of the time, but people still believe me." George W. Bush | |
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join:2001-08-30 Riverside, NJ | Re: Price cuts? The only way to get a price cut is to sign up for a 2 year contract. | |
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join:2005-06-17 Camp Hill, PA
| Re: Price cuts? said by Morac :The only way to get a price cut is to sign up for a 2 year contract. Yeah, some deal. Right now I have Dig Cable + DVR + Internet = $124/mo
Triple play: Phone: $33 +$4 = $37 Internet: $33 Dig Cable: $33 DVR: $13 ======================== Total: $116 Savings: $8
That price is for 1 year, after year 1 I wonder what you will pay for year 2.
What they need to do is a double play for those of us who could care less about phone. But you won't as they want to be the #1 phone company too. | |
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| Re: Price cuts? said by itguy05 :What they need to do is a double play for those of us who could care less about phone. But you won't as they want to be the #1 phone company too. Double play is coming. It was mentioned during the call and also a lower price/slower speed internet tier. -- »www.seabee.navy.mil | |
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| Re: Price cuts? said by JSRoman :It was mentioned during the call and also a lower price/slower speed internet tier. That's good to hear. Up until now they've basically just handed the telco's over this entire segment of the market which has struck me as pretty foolish considering how huge the market is.
While they have had a 384k tier for about 25.00 a month, that's certainly been no bargain. Reportedly they have or are upgrading that to at least 768k however.
I guess their concern must be that existing 42.95/month customers will downgrade but personally..I doubt that will be much of an issue. I think those people are on DSL already anyway and existing customers are all about the faster speeds for the most part.
And, if they do lose a few to that..so what? They're opening up a big market for existing dsl customers to use comcasts lower speed/price tiers instead.
The net would seem to me to be a real positive for comcast overall. -- The Coyote captured the RR! Roadrunner Rick is now Comcastic! | |
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| Re: Price cuts? said by Rick :I guess their concern must be that existing 42.95/month customers will downgrade but personally..I doubt that will be much of an issue. I think those people are on DSL already anyway and existing customers are all about the faster speeds for the most part. Guess I must be in the minority - 3/4/5/6 is all about the same for me.
I'd rather have the dough than the speed (and I work in IT)
Comcast 6/384k - $42.95 w/ cable, $60 without Verizon DSL 3/768k - $29.99 Fios- 5/2 - $30
I'd take a 3 tier for less and either have the $ or add to video services.
quote: And, if they do lose a few to that..so what?
Would they rather have $30 from me or $0? Cause once the Internet goes from Comcast, DirecTV and Dish start looking very appealing. Actually Internet is the only reason I have video through Comcast.
They know this full well and it's why prices will not budge and they will keep the BS Slowsky tier. | |
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| Re: Price cuts? Would be nice except:
My line tests at about 4.8M on just about every speedtest. Rarely do I even hit 6M. Uploads are right on the money at 384k.
That $12/mo would let me put another premium on my cable bill, which would be better than speed that is unused 90% of the time.
I don't download all that much and have no issues "scheduling downloads" or simply doing something else while things are downloading.
Sorry, I'd rather have the $ to put other places. | |
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| Re: Price cuts? well, perhaps if you're interested in upgrading your cable TV..you could get in on a triple play deal? Adding phone service might make a lot of sense from a financial perspective versus just going to dsl with the telco's phone service.
Rarely does having dsl + telco phone service + taxes + long distance + a la carte TV service add up to savings over a triple play deal.
Something to think about and at least inquire with them about.
I know here in my area comcast has a 129.00 month deal for digital tv/2 premiums/hsi and digital phone...and a 159/month deal for everything they've got including all 5 premiums and the sports tier.
As for your speeds, they do seem low. Perhaps you should pop on over to the comcast forum and post the following information. I and i'm sure others will be happy to take a look for you and see if we can see anything to help you improve on that.
»Comcast High Speed Internet FAQ »How To Get Help! -- The Coyote captured the RR! Roadrunner Rick is now Comcastic! | |
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join:2004-03-19 Here | So you're not going to advocate selling Comcast stock? | |
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join:2005-09-28 Dracut, MA | you wouldnt be put into $99.00 bundle since active sub, you would likely get the 129.00 bundle which is standard+cdv+chsi+pref w/hbo+starz if you add in your dvr you would be paying about 145/month, normal cost is about 180/month | |
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| Re: Price cuts? said by Ebolla :you wouldnt be put into $99.00 bundle since active sub, you would likely get the 129.00 bundle which is standard+cdv+chsi+pref w/hbo+starz if you add in your dvr you would be paying about 145/month, normal cost is about 180/month The rep did say that one, but I want to CUT my costs, not increase them. And it is really pointless to pay $33 for a phone that we won't use (we use our cells). If they had a similar deal minus the phone it would be perfect. | |
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| Good gravy thats a ton of money!!!
I just pay $50 for Internet and limited cable. Bought myself a 42 LCD and hooked my PC up to it where I watch all the good stuff on sites like YouTube and it's chinese equivalent.
I use Skype to Skype for talking and my cell phone to make regular calls!
Expect more people in the future to follow this scheme ... making their profits drop more where they realize this and embrace billing by the byte! Sucks but it's gonna happen... | |
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| said by MysticGogeta :I don't know I would take a price cut over more speed. Amen. I'd rather save the $$. 3/6/8 - for me it's all the same and I'd love for CC to offer a 3 tier for a decent cut.
Sadly, I doubt we'd see that. | |
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@verizon.net | I would take a price cut over more speed anyday. $71/mo for 8/1 standalone internet? That should be illegal. If their internet was cheaper, I would have it now, but instead I went with DSL. | |
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| Re: Price cuts? said by The_ANoN :
I would take a price cut over more speed anyday. $71/mo for 8/1 standalone internet? That should be illegal. What?! Are you kidding?! Why in the world should that be "illegal"....?
I REALLY want to hear this one..... -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." | |
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| wow 384k is all they offer for upload? How can such a big and seemingly successful company, offer such a lousy upload speed to their customers?
I had 384k upload back in 2001, and even then it seemed slow. I feel sorry for you. Glad I don't use Comcast. | |
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| Re: Price cuts? said by DJ_Kismuth :wow 384k is all they offer for upload? How can such a big and seemingly successful company, offer such a lousy upload speed to their customers? I had 384k upload back in 2001, and even then it seemed slow. I feel sorry for you. Glad I don't use Comcast. They offer a higher tier of 8/768 for $52/mo.
What I think cable companies should do is let you pick your upload and download speeds from a list. For example, offer 768/3mb/6mb/8mb/10mb as a download and 256kbps/384kbps/512kbps/768kbps/1meg as upload. Set the price for each speed, and then allow a customer to pick the download and upload speeds | |
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| Re: Price cuts? PLEASE don't advocate complicating things. At $42 and $52 a month for the 6 & 8 tiers, why in the world make what is simple, complicated?
The VAST majority of customers are NOT here on BBR and could give a rat's ass less about all this choice.. Simple pricing is perfectly fine for about 95% of the customer base... Many people also believe that $42 a month is ok for pricing as well.
Almost everyday, there is someone crying out that people need to speak with their wallets.. and the fact that people are in fact buying the tiers at $42 and $52 a month means people ARE speaking with their wallets.. (yes, it does work both ways) ..including in areas where both Cable & DSL is available..
I don't dismiss your idea, but I do think it makes things far worse for the consumer than it needs to be... it's already hard enough to buy a cable television package, much less the time it will take to be able to figure out the pricing on a vast tier option internet service. -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." | |
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join:2003-10-25 Midwest | Comcast has upstream PowerBoost, which increases your upload to 1Mbps for a short time. Granted, the 384Kbps permanent speed is a bit low, the PowerBoost definitely makes a difference. | |
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| Re: Price cuts? said by Comcablrtl :Comcast has upstream PowerBoost, which increases your upload to 1Mbps for a short time. Granted, the 384Kbps permanent speed is a bit low, the PowerBoost definitely makes a difference. Everyone can also get 768kbps upload and in some markets 1 mbps upload for $10 more per month. Plus the Powerboost you mentioned. With Powerboost I consistently get 1.5 mbps upload for about the 1st 10 MBytes of data being uploaded. -- -- Internet News My BLOG My Web Page | |
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join:2004-08-05 Home | I would like to see someone get 384k upload out of ISDN. | |
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1 edit | I agree. Forget Powerboost it's nothing but a gimmick. I'd say give us a speed upgrade. Maybe not to match the up & down speeds of PB, but throw us a bone with a bump in speed that's comparable to what people are getting on other networks like Cablevision. When I was on that network before I moved I was getting 10 down and 950 up and that was 4 years ago!!
Like other people have mentioned here I would take a price cut and still keep the present speed if possible. | |
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1 edit | 54% in perspective and competition »www.marketwatch.com/news/story/c···id=yhoof
"The year-earlier quarter included a gain of $694 million related to the Adelphia deal and a gain of $234 million related to the transfer of cable systems to Time Warner. In the latest three months, Comcast recorded an expense of $55 million for the settlement of litigation associated with former Internet service provider AtHome, which went bankrupt several years ago. Excluding these items, Comcast would have earned $560 million, or 18 cents a share, in the third quarter, compared with a year-ago profit of $548 million, or 17 cents a share. "
During the call they also said Qwest and AT&T were more of PITA competive wise than Verizon. AT&T making promo offers that Comcast would never consider such as free video for a year. -- »www.seabee.navy.mil | |
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join:2006-06-23 Dallas, GA | Could it be Price hikes yea you hike the prices twice in a year its bound to bite you in the ass. when will companys learn??? | |
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join:2002-01-22 00000 clubs: | Re: Could it be Price hikes they learn when you stop paying them, of course. if enough people do it... | |
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| Re: Could it be Price hikes said by morbo :they learn when you stop paying them, of course. if enough people do it... Oh, it's happening. Their is no love lost for Comcast in my part of the world (Philly burbs). Most of the people I talk to when I'm out really don't like Comcast's strong arm monopolistic practices. Regular folks (folks not as into it as we are) are pitching a bitch about 2 rate hikes in a year.
Comcast is cutting off their nose despite their face. I'm probably gonna go with a dish later this year. I would now, but I can't get up on the roof until my gimp foot heals up, and I don't feel like waiting around all day for an install tech. I would rather do it myself. -- Petty people are disproportionably corrupted by petty power
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join:2003-02-04 USA | Re: Could it be Price hikes You'll need two HD DVR's from Dish if you want to record two local HD shows at one time. Their Dual tuner HD DVR only has one off air antenna tuner... guess where you local HD content comes from.... | |
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| Re: Could it be Price hikes I said "a" dish.
I was actually eyeing DirecTV without the DVR. I haven't used my DVR in a while, and I can give it up.
I only have 2 TV's. One in the bedroom, and one in the living room. Only 1 is high def... -- Petty people are disproportionably corrupted by petty power
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| Why?? Why would you want Comcast cable? DirecTV offers so much more...with there new HD channels Comcast can't compete...and the best part of Comcast - How do they get there most of their programming? VIA SATELLITE! So why would you want to pay for cable? Satellite you cut the middle man out.....never understood why people get cable! | |
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| Cablecard fiasco Part of this is the cable operators lackluster implementation of cablecard. If cable industry were smart it would have promoted a workable version, and locked people into the mindset of Hd from cable. Now they lost another revenue stream, and Fios is just going to profit off of it. Most people dont know what cablecard is , or if they are receiving real HD. | |
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| Blame Me In Q3 I downgraded form Digital plus to basic analog cable. I would have dropped cable TV cable Broadband and go back to DSL if went for the discount. I am very price sensitive. Beside I not a big TV watcher it the last three moths I only watched 30 minutes. | |
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join:2002-12-19 00000 | Re: Blame Me I got 3 months and I am kicking comcast to the curb. With the price increases every 6 months. They can keep there service. Cant wait to hand the lady my equipment and say please close my account. It will be one of the greatest days of my life. | |
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 |   Boogeyman Drive it like you stole it Premium join:2002-12-17 Huntsville, AL
| Amen, A lot of the more tech savvy and just generally busy people are watching less and less cable/broadcast tv. If that new show you want to watch comes on when you are at work, out, whatever and you dont watch enough tv to pay the extra for a dvr, then what happens? You either dont watch it, or you get it from p2p. There are numerous shows I like to watch, but they all come on at weird times and I dont have a set schedule, so I have to wait for them to come out on p2p so I can watch. Since the ONLY reason we keep paying for cable tv is so when hockey season rolls around we have a chance to catch a few games, I dont see paying the extra $10-15 or whatever it is a month for a dvr box just to catch 5 different shows.
I was at a meeting the other day where a sales rep was discussing Neilsens tv statistics. The average household watches 8hrs a day, so yes, I do understand I am in the minority here, hell, we probably only have the tv on for 8 hrs a month, maybe. Its probably more like 4hrs a month. But I have talked to a lot of people I work with, and it seems like all the more tech savvy people watch less tv and spend more time online (We probably spend about 8hrs a day online on average, now that my wife and I are into WoW again, its more like 12hrs, lol).
We wouldnt even have cable tv if my wife wasnt a hockey fan too, sure we do occasionally flip it to the news in the morning as we get ready for work and are waiting for the coffee to brew, but the only reason we keep it is so we can watch the few games we care about.
I guess my point with this long winded and grammaticly error filled post is that I've noticed more and more people watching less and less tv in the recent years. Not like a mass migration, more like the slow uptake of the automobile when it was first invented. But I have a feeling, with dvr's, p2p, vod, less and less people are going to want to be chained to a certain time slot to watch what they want to watch. And as that happens, there will be the people who just say, "Well, if I cant get it when I want it, I will just go without".
Wow, my line of reasoning just kind of stayed to the "When will the broadcasters, riaa, mpaa, etc learn that people want stuff when they want it, how they want it, and dont feel the need the pay for and recieve the services if they cant" argument. Sorry, about that.
Guess thats what happens when you spend 30 min typing a post and get frequently distracted. So I am just gonna stop typing now before I start talking about something that doesnt even have to do with broadband/tv access. | |
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| Basic Video vs. DIgital Video Sub Counts When Comcast shows the number of the add / loss of subscribers for basic and digital video...do customers that go from one to the other counted in those numbers or are they measured some other way? I took a quick look and aside from basic video (which is probably considered the least desirable customer) all other businesses appear to be growing which isn't bad considering the higher costs of energy eating into people's income. I don't see anything really negative in the report, the reduction in profit seems to be directly linked to the increase in capital spending.
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join:2007-08-08 | re: Growth Slowing For Comcast they can add me to the + side if they ever get the voip service up and running n my corner of the state. i would jump on it and have been waiting for some time now. | |
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join:2005-11-02 Clawson, MI
| Re: Growth Slowing For Comcast said by scooterr50 :they can add me to the + side if they ever get the voip service up and running n my corner of the state. i would jump on it and have been waiting for some time now. They upgraded our system to 1Ghz and I just got CDV on Wednesday. So far, so good. | |
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| Re: Slow Growth said by pokesph :I blame the coming Bandwidth Apocalypse. Naah, you have to fall in line with the rest of the sheep - it's GLOBAL WARMING! | |
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