  ztmikeMark for moderationPremium
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Michigan City, IN | Price cuts? How about a damn upgrade in speed!? 384upload should not even be allowed unless its isdn or some small company offering it.
CC needs to get with the program and not just up speeds to where theres competition..if thats going to be the case, ill be stuck at 384upload for a long time coming.
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League City, TX | Re: Price cuts? I don't know I would take a price cut over more speed. | |
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| | | | | Re: Price cuts? said by Morac:The only way to get a price cut is to sign up for a 2 year contract. Yeah, some deal. Right now I have Dig Cable + DVR + Internet = $124/mo
Triple play:
Phone: $33 +$4 = $37
Internet: $33
Dig Cable: $33
DVR: $13
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Total: $116
Savings: $8
That price is for 1 year, after year 1 I wonder what you will pay for year 2.
What they need to do is a double play for those of us who could care less about phone. But you won't as they want to be the #1 phone company too. | |
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Whittier, AK | Re: Price cuts? said by itguy05:What they need to do is a double play for those of us who could care less about phone. But you won't as they want to be the #1 phone company too. Double play is coming. It was mentioned during the call and also a lower price/slower speed internet tier.
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Waterbury, CT | Re: Price cuts? said by caco:It was mentioned during the call and also a lower price/slower speed internet tier. That's good to hear. Up until now they've basically just handed the telco's over this entire segment of the market which has struck me as pretty foolish considering how huge the market is.
While they have had a 384k tier for about 25.00 a month, that's certainly been no bargain. Reportedly they have or are upgrading that to at least 768k however.
I guess their concern must be that existing 42.95/month customers will downgrade but personally..I doubt that will be much of an issue.
I think those people are on DSL already anyway and existing customers are all about the faster speeds for the most part.
And, if they do lose a few to that..so what?
They're opening up a big market for existing dsl customers to use comcasts lower speed/price tiers instead.
The net would seem to me to be a real positive for comcast overall.
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| | | | | | | | Re: Price cuts? said by Rick:I guess their concern must be that existing 42.95/month customers will downgrade but personally..I doubt that will be much of an issue. I think those people are on DSL already anyway and existing customers are all about the faster speeds for the most part. Guess I must be in the minority - 3/4/5/6 is all about the same for me.
I'd rather have the dough than the speed (and I work in IT)
Comcast 6/384k - $42.95 w/ cable, $60 without
Verizon DSL 3/768k - $29.99
Fios- 5/2 - $30
I'd take a 3 tier for less and either have the $ or add to video services.
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And, if they do lose a few to that..so what?
Would they rather have $30 from me or $0? Cause once the Internet goes from Comcast, DirecTV and Dish start looking very appealing. Actually Internet is the only reason I have video through Comcast.
They know this full well and it's why prices will not budge and they will keep the BS Slowsky tier. | |
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Valencia, CA | Re: Price cuts? Ditto... and one of our NE's uses a 1.5/384kbps DSL 
If I don't need it (or for the most part notice the difference), why pay it ?
Comcast and others typically have a package that they WANT/EXPECT most people to use.
Comcast 6.0 with Powerboost... 768 for those that don't want to pay. Anything else is for power users, and typically doesn't cost a whole lot more.
Verizon has fiber, and has done similar
AT&T has gone the other way... especially on Uverse.
basic 1.5/1 is cheap, 3/1 is $5/month more, but 6/1 is $15/more than 3/1. Capacity issues to the VRAD, anyone.
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1 edit | said by itguy05:I'd rather have the dough than the speed (and I work in IT) You must REALLY want (or need) the dough because what you're proposing makes little sense otherwise.
What you're proposing is to go from a 6Mb service (12Mb or more..and in my case 20Mb with powerboost) to a 3Mb (that most only see about 2.4 ~2.6 with)..to save 12.66 per month.
Which amounts to .42 cents per day.
Do you realize how EXPENSIVE that REALLY makes the DSL on a speed for speed basis?
2.5Mb DSL vs. 20Mb pb enabled comcast...for a 42cents per day difference.
Last night I had to download all the updates for a microsoft office suite I have. It was well over 120Mb...and maybe even 200Mb or more considering all the security updates that followed it. That would have taken a LOT more time on a slowsky DSL Connection versus my PB enabled one. Which had me seeing almost 3Mb speeds for a good portion of those files.
42cents per day. Let's take a look at that.
That money won't buy you HALF of a wendy dollar menu burger.
1/3rd a bottle of Pepsi.
Do you make 15.00 bucks an hour? Guess what? you'll earn 42 cents in less than TWO minutes per day.
All that to have the best connection available.
I'm all about budgeting and being conservative. But I'm also all about value for my money too.
And DSL simply is no value. It's in the real expensive food aisle as far as I'm concerned. The place you buy the small..expensive cans of any something versus the economy sizes.
But wait..there's even more.
Don't want a landline?
DSL just got REAL expensive my friend.
Phone line..
taxes..
TELCO make believe taxes...
and DSL...
all add up to costing you way more than you're paying for a real high speed..quality connection.
Don't get fooled by the "low" price claims of DSL.
Spend less than 2 mins per day working to treat yourself to the best you can get. | |
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Price cuts? Would be nice except:
My line tests at about 4.8M on just about every speedtest. Rarely do I even hit 6M. Uploads are right on the money at 384k.
That $12/mo would let me put another premium on my cable bill, which would be better than speed that is unused 90% of the time.
I don't download all that much and have no issues "scheduling downloads" or simply doing something else while things are downloading.
Sorry, I'd rather have the $ to put other places. | |
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| | | | | | | | | RickPremium,MVM
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Waterbury, CT | Re: Price cuts? well, perhaps if you're interested in upgrading your cable TV..you could get in on a triple play deal?
Adding phone service might make a lot of sense from a financial perspective versus just going to dsl with the telco's phone service.
Rarely does having dsl + telco phone service + taxes + long distance + a la carte TV service add up to savings over a triple play deal.
Something to think about and at least inquire with them about.
I know here in my area comcast has a 129.00 month deal for digital tv/2 premiums/hsi and digital phone...and a 159/month deal for everything they've got including all 5 premiums and the sports tier.
As for your speeds, they do seem low.
Perhaps you should pop on over to the comcast forum and post the following information.
I and i'm sure others will be happy to take a look for you and see if we can see anything to help you improve on that.
»Comcast High Speed Internet FAQ »How To Get Help!
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Dracut, MA | you wouldnt be put into $99.00 bundle since active sub, you would likely get the 129.00 bundle which is
standard+cdv+chsi+pref w/hbo+starz if you add in your dvr you would be paying about 145/month, normal cost is about 180/month | |
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| | | | | | | Re: Price cuts? said by Ebolla:you wouldnt be put into $99.00 bundle since active sub, you would likely get the 129.00 bundle which is standard+cdv+chsi+pref w/hbo+starz if you add in your dvr you would be paying about 145/month, normal cost is about 180/month The rep did say that one, but I want to CUT my costs, not increase them. And it is really pointless to pay $33 for a phone that we won't use (we use our cells). If they had a similar deal minus the phone it would be perfect. | |
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I just pay $50 for Internet and limited cable. Bought myself a 42 LCD and hooked my PC up to it where I watch all the good stuff on sites like YouTube and it's chinese equivalent.
I use Skype to Skype for talking and my cell phone to make regular calls!
Expect more people in the future to follow this scheme ... making their profits drop more where they realize this and embrace billing by the byte! Sucks but it's gonna happen... | |
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| | | | said by MysticGogeta:I don't know I would take a price cut over more speed. Amen. I'd rather save the $$. 3/6/8 - for me it's all the same and I'd love for CC to offer a 3 tier for a decent cut.
Sadly, I doubt we'd see that. | |
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kudos:3 | Re: Price cuts? said by The_ANoN :
I would take a price cut over more speed anyday. $71/mo for 8/1 standalone internet? That should be illegal. What?! Are you kidding?! Why in the world should that be "illegal"....?
I REALLY want to hear this one.....
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| | | wow 384k is all they offer for upload? How can such a big and seemingly successful company, offer such a lousy upload speed to their customers?
I had 384k upload back in 2001, and even then it seemed slow. I feel sorry for you. Glad I don't use Comcast. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Price cuts? said by DJ_Kismuth:wow 384k is all they offer for upload? How can such a big and seemingly successful company, offer such a lousy upload speed to their customers? I had 384k upload back in 2001, and even then it seemed slow. I feel sorry for you. Glad I don't use Comcast. They offer a higher tier of 8/768 for $52/mo.
What I think cable companies should do is let you pick your upload and download speeds from a list. For example, offer 768/3mb/6mb/8mb/10mb as a download and 256kbps/384kbps/512kbps/768kbps/1meg as upload. Set the price for each speed, and then allow a customer to pick the download and upload speeds | |
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kudos:3 | Re: Price cuts? PLEASE don't advocate complicating things. At $42 and $52 a month for the 6 & 8 tiers, why in the world make what is simple, complicated?
The VAST majority of customers are NOT here on BBR and could give a rat's ass less about all this choice.. Simple pricing is perfectly fine for about 95% of the customer base... Many people also believe that $42 a month is ok for pricing as well.
Almost everyday, there is someone crying out that people need to speak with their wallets.. and the fact that people are in fact buying the tiers at $42 and $52 a month means people ARE speaking with their wallets.. (yes, it does work both ways) ..including in areas where both Cable & DSL is available..
I don't dismiss your idea, but I do think it makes things far worse for the consumer than it needs to be... it's already hard enough to buy a cable television package, much less the time it will take to be able to figure out the pricing on a vast tier option internet service.
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kudos:4 | Re: Price cuts? With Upload & Download Powerboost
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League City, TX | Re: Price cuts? Comcast fails in my area. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: Price cuts? said by Comcablrtl:Comcast has upstream PowerBoost, which increases your upload to 1Mbps for a short time. Granted, the 384Kbps permanent speed is a bit low, the PowerBoost definitely makes a difference. Everyone can also get 768kbps upload and in some markets 1 mbps upload for $10 more per month. Plus the Powerboost you mentioned. With Powerboost I consistently get 1.5 mbps upload for about the 1st 10 MBytes of data being uploaded.
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1 edit | I agree. Forget Powerboost it's nothing but a gimmick. I'd say give us a speed upgrade. Maybe not to match the up & down speeds of PB, but throw us a bone with a bump in speed that's comparable to what people are getting on other networks like Cablevision. When I was on that network before I moved I was getting 10 down and 950 up and that was 4 years ago!!
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1 edit | 54% in perspective and competition »www.marketwatch.com/news/story/c···id=yhoof
"The year-earlier quarter included a gain of $694 million related to the Adelphia deal and a gain of $234 million related to the transfer of cable systems to Time Warner.
In the latest three months, Comcast recorded an expense of $55 million for the settlement of litigation associated with former Internet service provider AtHome, which went bankrupt several years ago.
Excluding these items, Comcast would have earned $560 million, or 18 cents a share, in the third quarter, compared with a year-ago profit of $548 million, or 17 cents a share. "
During the call they also said Qwest and AT&T were more of PITA competive wise than Verizon. AT&T making promo offers that Comcast would never consider such as free video for a year.
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kudos:4 | Maybe the profits are down.... Because the profit reports are being "delayed" instead of blocked.  | |
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Waterville, ME | Re: Maybe the profits are down.... The Cap. expense were spent on Sandvine.
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| | Could it be Price hikes yea you hike the prices twice in a year its bound to bite you in the ass. when will companys learn??? | |
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00000 | Re: Could it be Price hikes they learn when you stop paying them, of course. if enough people do it... | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Could it be Price hikes said by morbo:they learn when you stop paying them, of course. if enough people do it... Oh, it's happening. Their is no love lost for Comcast in my part of the world (Philly burbs). Most of the people I talk to when I'm out really don't like Comcast's strong arm monopolistic practices. Regular folks (folks not as into it as we are) are pitching a bitch about 2 rate hikes in a year.
Comcast is cutting off their nose despite their face. I'm probably gonna go with a dish later this year. I would now, but I can't get up on the roof until my gimp foot heals up, and I don't feel like waiting around all day for an install tech. I would rather do it myself.
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kudos:1 | Re: Could it be Price hikes I said "a" dish.
I was actually eyeing DirecTV without the DVR. I haven't used my DVR in a while, and I can give it up.
I only have 2 TV's. One in the bedroom, and one in the living room. Only 1 is high def...
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| Cablecard fiasco Part of this is the cable operators lackluster implementation of cablecard. If cable industry were smart it would have promoted a workable version, and locked people into the mindset of Hd from cable. Now they lost another revenue stream, and Fios is just going to profit off of it. Most people dont know what cablecard is , or if they are receiving real HD. | |
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| Lost another Customer We are in the process of cancelling Comcast. We switched back to AT&T for phone and are now using DSL. The phone service was not that great with CDV at times. We went to satellite for TV. We got DISH Network. I didn't realize how much I was missing on TV until we got satellite installed. I will never go back to cable.
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| Blame Me In Q3 I downgraded form Digital plus to basic analog cable. I would have dropped cable TV cable Broadband and go back to DSL if went for the discount. I am very price sensitive. Beside I not a big TV watcher it the last three moths I only watched 30 minutes. | |
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| | | Re: Blame Me I got 3 months and I am kicking comcast to the curb. With the price increases every 6 months. They can keep there service. Cant wait to hand the lady my equipment and say please close my account. It will be one of the greatest days of my life. | |
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|  BoogeymanDrive it like you stole itPremium
join:2002-12-17
Panama City, FL
·Comcast
| Amen, A lot of the more tech savvy and just generally busy people are watching less and less cable/broadcast tv. If that new show you want to watch comes on when you are at work, out, whatever and you dont watch enough tv to pay the extra for a dvr, then what happens? You either dont watch it, or you get it from p2p. There are numerous shows I like to watch, but they all come on at weird times and I dont have a set schedule, so I have to wait for them to come out on p2p so I can watch. Since the ONLY reason we keep paying for cable tv is so when hockey season rolls around we have a chance to catch a few games, I dont see paying the extra $10-15 or whatever it is a month for a dvr box just to catch 5 different shows.
I was at a meeting the other day where a sales rep was discussing Neilsens tv statistics. The average household watches 8hrs a day, so yes, I do understand I am in the minority here, hell, we probably only have the tv on for 8 hrs a month, maybe. Its probably more like 4hrs a month. But I have talked to a lot of people I work with, and it seems like all the more tech savvy people watch less tv and spend more time online (We probably spend about 8hrs a day online on average, now that my wife and I are into WoW again, its more like 12hrs, lol).
We wouldnt even have cable tv if my wife wasnt a hockey fan too, sure we do occasionally flip it to the news in the morning as we get ready for work and are waiting for the coffee to brew, but the only reason we keep it is so we can watch the few games we care about.
I guess my point with this long winded and grammaticly error filled post is that I've noticed more and more people watching less and less tv in the recent years. Not like a mass migration, more like the slow uptake of the automobile when it was first invented. But I have a feeling, with dvr's, p2p, vod, less and less people are going to want to be chained to a certain time slot to watch what they want to watch. And as that happens, there will be the people who just say, "Well, if I cant get it when I want it, I will just go without".
Wow, my line of reasoning just kind of stayed to the "When will the broadcasters, riaa, mpaa, etc learn that people want stuff when they want it, how they want it, and dont feel the need the pay for and recieve the services if they cant" argument. Sorry, about that.
Guess thats what happens when you spend 30 min typing a post and get frequently distracted. So I am just gonna stop typing now before I start talking about something that doesnt even have to do with broadband/tv access. | |
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| Re: Blame Me Indeed, even the non-tech savvy are using the Internet more than the TV in my experience. I mainly use the TV for my favorite TV shows, a few of them on NBC and so forth, and the classics on DVD (MacGyver!) and some more recent ones (Monk, Psych). We also watch the news and I play video games.
I wonder when the TVoIP revolution will start taking off. The main thing hindering this is the fact that not enough people have the Internet connection to do so, such as us rural HughesNet users.
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| Analysts Expected Better The number of new digital-cable subscribers beat analyst expectations, but the new phone and new internet subscribers fell short.
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| | re: Growth Slowing For Comcast they can add me to the + side if they ever get the voip service up and running n my corner of the state. i would jump on it and have been waiting for some time now. | |
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| | | Re: Growth Slowing For Comcast said by scooterr50:they can add me to the + side if they ever get the voip service up and running n my corner of the state. i would jump on it and have been waiting for some time now. They upgraded our system to 1Ghz and I just got CDV on Wednesday. So far, so good. | |
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kudos:1 | Slow Growth I blame the coming Bandwidth Apocalypse. | |
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