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| NOPE Do not get me wrong I love broadband video and I'm all for it. Actually, I can not wait until 11/22 to start using my 360 to rent movies etc...
However, for broadband video to go main stream as DVD or other formats have, there needs to be way more development. DSL is not enough for broadband video (at least efficiently) Cable is doing better but not everywhere, only were competition exists. | |
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 | KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: NOPE DVD is going to kill the new formats because they dont offer a major upgrade over normal DVD.
DVD was a HUGE upgrade to DVD. HD-DVD/Blu-Ray however isnt a huge upgrade to DVD for viewing movies.
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| |  cvrefugeePremium
join:2003-09-15
Corona, CA
kudos:7 | Re: NOPE said by Kearnstd:DVD was a HUGE upgrade to DVD. Don't you mean DVD was an upgrade from VHS? | |
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| | | | | Re: NOPE Oops, he meant VHS. But I agree, even though I have an HDTV, the difference for MOVIES isn't that important to me. My dvd player at 480p displays fine, and though HDTV tv shows look great, I'm most certainly NOT willing to pay more for them. Most blu-ray movies are 24.99+, where the DVD counterparts are only 14.99. That's a big price difference, and I most certainly am not going to rebuild my collection buying yet another format, at a more expensive price. Even the blu-ray recordable blanks are 20.00, so if I COULD rent them from blockbuster, I most certainly couldn't build up my collection like I have done with my DVD (rent/copy/return).
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join:2002-06-10
Toronto, ON | Re: NOPE Not to mention that the BluRay and HD-DVD offerings have been largely half-assed compared to the DVD versions. They tend to be very light on the extras that people love so much on DVDs, and on some of them, the transfers are so craptastic that the Hi-Def only manages to highlight the artifacts and grain in the film transfer. Why would anyone pay double for even less than you'd get on DVD with no guarantee that the image quality would be better? | |
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join:2002-06-16
Cincinnati, OH | Re: NOPE said by MCheu:Not to mention that the BluRay and HD-DVD offerings have been largely half-assed compared to the DVD versions. They tend to be very light on the extras that people love so much on DVDs, and on some of them, the transfers are so craptastic that the Hi-Def only manages to highlight the artifacts and grain in the film transfer. Why would anyone pay double for even less than you'd get on DVD with no guarantee that the image quality would be better? Are you speaking from experience, or are you just pulling a lot of this out of your ass? The majority of Blu-Ray releases have been subpar thus far (mainly due to the prevalence of MPEG2 being used instead of VC-1 or MPEG4/AVC... afterall the Blu-Ray 50GB spec was designed around the usage of MPEG2 but they're even using it with 25GB discs). However, the majority of HD-DVD releases have been perfect or near-perfect transfers from the film or digital master (mostly due to the usage of the VC-1 codec, whose tools and encoder have matured rather nicely... the codec is allowing picture perfect 1080p transfers at bitrates around 10-12mbps).
The picture quality is absolutely amazing compared to standard DVD's (even upscaled). If you're using an HDTV it's no contest at all. HD-DVD releases and a good handful of Blu-Ray releases (list is increasing) absolutely smoke their DVD counterparts in picture quality (as well as sound if you have the proper equipment). Most all the highdef releases have the same extra content as their DVD counterparts and some have exclusive HD extras. Not to mention both formats' special interactivity capabilities while watching the movies (HD-DVD has some really neat U-Control releases including Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift which has PIP commentary and on-screen images and info.. MI:3 and King Kong also have PIP commentary).
Going back from HD-DVD to DVD is like going back from DVD to VHS. I have the Xbox 360 HD-DVD add-on (which comes with King Kong.. I also have five other HD-DVD releases) and it's absolutely awesome. If anyone has a 360 and an HDTV they should seriously consider the HD-DVD add-on. Once you see HD movies on an HDTV you'll be hooked. | |
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join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR | Re: NOPE I disk-based content will be around for awhile. The primary reason is picture quality. For digital content delivered by cable, satellite, broadcast, streaming IP, etc., the content distributor has their hand on the (figurative) knob of the encoder. Business conditions drive them reduce the cost of delivery as much as possible by turning the knob on the compressor as high as the "average" customer will tolerate. As a result, most "digital video" content looks awful on anything but a tiny screen (e.g., just compare a typical digital cable or DBS satellite channel to the C-Band original, or a local broadcast station on one of these systems, compared to what you can receive with a good rooftop antenna in a City Grade reception area). Providers are even doing that now with HDTV: most Over The Air broadcasters take part of the 19 Mbps and use it for a second (or even third) channel, and cable and DBS channels are being down-rez'd to 1440 or even 1280 lines of horizontal resolution. Even for streaming content, the more it's compressed, the less server resources and bandwidth resources it consumes.
This isn't the case with DVD's. If it fits on a disk, there is no cost incentive to compress it further. Content creators, who have a key interest in maintaining the picture quality as high as possible (if even only for their own satisfaction), are the ones that control the compression level. Plus, they influenced the specification of the physical medium, so they could ensure it had sufficient capacity to deliver the quality they sought to deliver. This is analogous to the situation in theaters; e.g., the first-generation film prints shown in West Los Angeles, where the film industry goes to the movies, look far better than the prints at the average suburban multiplex in most of the country. | |
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Elbonia | Re: NOPE I basically agree with you all, but I think there's a better way to sum up the HD-DVD and Blu Ray prospects: cost-benefit ratio.
The quality improvement over DVD really is impressive when you look at a well-mastered, true-HD source (not just upscaled DVD resolution) on a true HD monitor (not just widescreen).
But there are two other factors: DVD is "good enough" for many people even though true HD is dazzling; and the cost factor.
Most people will upgrade to better displays, either in the next few years or at least when their old TVs die. But this is not the only cost factor. It will take a while for player prices to come down; and for those who collect disks instead of renting they're going to be very resistant to replacing collections.
So migrations will take years - but the hardware makers don't have that long with HD-DVD or Blu Ray. Both are going to fail unless the format war gets decided, and that's not going to happen until people start buying. Thus, I am very skeptical about either HD-DVD or Blu Ray succeeding. | |
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San Francisco, CA | said by PDXPLT:Content creators, who have a key interest in maintaining the picture quality as high as possible (if even only for their own satisfaction), are the ones that control the compression level. Netflix rules. | |
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join:2002-06-10
Toronto, ON | Just like you, I guess a bit of both. The local video shop allows rentals of the players and movies in all 3 formats, so I don't own a highdef player in either format, but I've been able to play around with maybe about 10 titles in each format in the last year or so to a limited degree. Thus, I admit I haven't experienced a great selection of movies nor have I had time to play around with them for any length of time.
Only the most recent big deal releases have been even remotely worthwhile. I still believe that the majority of HD-DVD and BluRay releases are not as good as they should be if the studios expect people to upgrade and rebuy these movies. Admittedly, I haven't tried the discs on a true HDTV yet (a widescreen flatscreen TV yes, but it's not big enough to display at full resolution). The artifact blotches and grain are quite a bit more noticeable on that same TV compared to the DVD version. I purposely rented the hidef versions of some movies I already own on DVD as I was curious what the big deal was. I continued renting a few new releases and the players to see if the releases were getting better. They are, but not enough to make me want to bother with the expense.
If you believe the formats are so much better (I'm guessing you're leaning towards HD-DVD), please recommend some HD-DVD or BluRay movies to check out. Perhaps I've just made some bad choices in my rentals, and I really do want to find out what the big deal is, because so far, I just don't see it. | |
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| | | You're going to need some major infrastructure development to move the data and you're probably going to need some progress in storage also. At the current pace, we're likely to have the storage move faster than telecom infrastructure unless we see some kind of high-bandwidth OTA or a revolutionary product to increase data rates over copper. Of course that's going to require new modems, new routers, et al. It's hard to see that moving fast enough to "kill" the DVD formats.
If anything kills the formats it's going to be price combined with no perceived need to upgrade. Standard DVD looks very good on HDTVs. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Re: NOPE said by DufiefData:You're going to need some major infrastructure development to move the data and you're probably going to need some progress in storage also. At the current pace, we're likely to have the storage move faster than telecom infrastructure unless we see some kind of high-bandwidth OTA or a revolutionary product to increase data rates over copper. Of course that's going to require new modems, new routers, et al. It's hard to see that moving fast enough to "kill" the DVD formats. If anything kills the formats it's going to be price combined with no perceived need to upgrade. Standard DVD looks very good on HDTVs. Ditto. | |
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| | | | said by DufiefData:Standard DVD looks very good on HDTVs. A good up-convert DVD player makes regular DVDs look very nice on an HDTV. | |
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | yea i ment DVD was a HUGE upgrade to VHS, oops Typo.
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| | Blu-ray Only thing that will do disc's in are the copy protection, who wants to pay 20 or 30 bucks for something they can't play on a windows based pc or any computer.Theres always going to be something bigger and better.Hard drives with dvd collections?I wouldn't trust my dvd library to a hard drive, too easy to lose data with hdd.Just my 2 cents  | |
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| | | Re: Blu-ray I agree, the current HDCP is rediculus. Why can I not just go out, by a 5.25 blue ray drive, put it into my computer and enjoy the content? My computer has no problem displaying HD... I get free HD over the air and it displays no problems (HDTV Wonder, Socket 478 system, X850 graphics card, LCD monitor via DVI but also once was by VGA).
Yet they want to only be DVI, special graphics cards, special cables and special monitors?
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They want it to be stored on their systems so they have control and you have squat, like allways. That way, you have to pay every time you play instead of just getting out your backup copy and playing it on your own gear. | |
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| |  dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18
2 edits | What?
Can't play BluRay on a Windows machine?
The new Sony machines have BluRay drives built-in, so what's all this garbage about not being able to play on a Windows machine?
»www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSH···cs&var2=
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DVD+-R Double Layer/DVD±RW Drive2 with Blu-Ray Disc Support
DVD+R DL Write: 2.4x max.
DVD+R Write: 8x max.
DVD+RW Write: 4x max.
DVD-R Write: 8x max.
DVD-RW Write: 4x max.
CD-R Write: 8x max.
CD-RW Write: 8x max.
DVD±RW: Yes
CD Read: 24x max.
DVD Read: 8x max.
DVD-RAM Write: 5x max.
DVD-R DL Write: 2x max.
BD-R Read: 1x max.
BD-R Write: 1x max.
BD-RE Write: 1x max.
BD-ROM Read: 1.6x max.
BD-RE Read: 1x max.
BD-R DL Read: 1x max.
BD-R DL Write: 1x. max
DVD-RAM Read: 5x max.
Blu-Ray Disc Support: Yes
BD-RE DL Read: 1 max.
BD-RE DL Write: 1x max.
It even WRITES to a BluRay disc!
This is a laptop BTW!
NOTE: Sony Laptops come with - Windows! 
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| | | | | Re: Blu-ray I am not saying Windows has anything to do with it, I am saying the hardware has EVERYTHING to do with it.
Wounderful, SONY has THEIR laptop playing BD. What about new rigs, or anything else? Just an upgrade to a regular desktop rig? Completely impossible at this point in time even though with most hardware can play HD content without breaking a sweat.
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| | | | | | | Re: Blu-ray Really? I thought Google was my friend... Oh wait, thats FAQs. I NEVER knew such a place like newegg existed! Oh heavenly figure, thou art a bounty of knowledge, please continue to share! /sarcasm
Anyways, yes, there are drives. But the HARDWARE (read my previous posts) is still not compatable. You need a graphics card with HDCP, a monitor which supports it and porper software. THATS the part I am complaining about.
All nice that I could put a 600 dollar drive in my computer but when my current setup cannot support it... no point?
So, as I was saying before the quick triggered neweggage, most computers are quite capable of rendering and displaying High Deffinition content, however, the HDCP HD Content (Which blue ray, I remind you, is) is a much more difficult story. I beleive there are a VERY select few nVidia cards and currently (maybe?) no ATI cards that support HDCP.
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| | | | | | dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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2 edits | Re: Blu-ray It is NOT completely impossible.
It is possible, just that you(and I) do not want to fork out the cash to make it possible!
I suggest you check the external USB2 drive!
»www.nu-global.com/1_english/3_pr···p?pID=72
For PC or Notebook
- Compatible Pentium III 1GHz or faster processor
- Recommend Windows 2000/XP operating system
- 128MB RAM or higher recommended
- USB2.0 interface
For Macintosh
- Power PC Processor (G3,G4,or G4 Dual)
- System recommended Mac OS 10.2 or above
- At least 128MB RAM
Damn near a Grand, but it *IS* possible! 
WIth all that has been said, it is BS that there will be HDCP cards and monitors.
No worries here though... I'll just get a new VAIO!
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| | | | | | | | said by snipper_cr:I beleive there are a VERY select few nVidia cards and currently (maybe?) no ATI cards that support HDCP. My $700 (2001) Radeon 9700 Pro says it is HDCP compatible.
My new ('budget') card, which is a Geforce 7300 GT also says it is HDCP compatible. | |
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Cheyenne, WY | Re: Blu-ray I am more interested in a Blu-ray drive for the storage space on the individual disks. But like everything else in the digital world I'll what for the price to come down.
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Blu-ray I wounder how long BD burned media lasts... I know CDs are around 5-10 years...
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join:2003-01-25
Saint Augustine, FL | hahahaha $699! I know that the original dvd burners for pc's were pretty expensive at the very beginning, but I cant wait until these come down in price that is comparible to the popular NEC DVD burners that are currently around $30.
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| | Uh, HDDs aren't big enough for true HD mpeg-2 or vc-1 yet People seem to be forgetting that a DVD is at most 9GB. Most HD-DVDs are 30GB, and BRs will soon be 50GB a piece. If kept in native mpeg-2, 15 of those BRs will eat a 750GB hdd. There's also the issue of transmission rates. HD discs can transfer 30mbit+ of HD video. Who has a 30mbit connection? And even if you do, you really think your Phone\Cable company will let you use all of it at once for ONE high-def movie? You can forget that. There's no way to watch HD-DVD or BR quality high def over any consumer BB line in the US. Not even FIOS, unless Verizon tripples its downstream rates. | |
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join:2002-03-03
USA
kudos:4 |  Trouble finding HD Gallery on Comcast VOD ??
»www.galleryplayer.com/comcast.html
The GalleryPlayer HD On Demand service is free to Comcast On Demand customers. If you are a Comcast Customer, you may view the GalleryPlayer collections by first selecting On Demand from your remote control, then "HD On Demand", followed by "TV Entertainment," and finally "HDTV Gallery." From there you can choose the collection you want to view. On my system, this is the current list of choices:
Now showing on Comcast:
* Space Spectacular
* Greatest Golf Holes
* The Art of Leonardo DaVinci*
* The Spectacular Beauty of Storms*
* African Safari Adventure
* Autumn Splendor
* Explore Italy
* Extreme Recreational Sports
* Serene Beaches
* effective 11/15 Great pictures if you have a good HDTV set.
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| | | Re: Trouble finding HD Gallery on Comcast VOD ??
YAWN. BFD. No wonder it's "free". Boring crap | |
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Davie, FL
kudos:2 | My HD > TV Entertainment > HDTV Gallery menu is empty. | |
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by Romney2012: * Space Spectacular * Greatest Golf Holes * The Art of Leonardo DaVinci* * The Spectacular Beauty of Storms* * African Safari Adventure * Autumn Splendor * Explore Italy * Extreme Recreational Sports * Serene Beaches Not exactly a list of hot titles if you ask me. * y a w n *
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| | Noooo... While HD-DVD and BluRay may both be dead or dying, there will have to be some kind of disc-based video format for the foreseeable future. Not enough people have access to broadband to make it a universal distribution medium, and only a small percentage have broadband of the speed which could enable the delivery of a high-definition movie in reasonable time. For that matter, ordinary broadband is barely fast enough for standard definition movies. Look at it this way: if you figure a feature length movie, encoded at 700 MB (taking a de facto number popular online, which yields good quality) and try to pipe it through a 1.5 meg DSL line, it'll take well over an hour to download. Now that may be fine if you're streaming it, and doing that only, but if somebody else wants to use the internet too? If you want to download it and put it on a portable device for a trip? No dice. And HD would be even worse. Figure 4x the file size even for so-called "HD Lite," and you'd need at least 5 Mbits of speed to even think about watching it.
Now think of the tens of millions of people who don't have or can't get broadband. Slate's grossly jumping the gun in an effort to sound prophetic and cutting edge, and to draw in people to read them. They should try getting out of the upper middle class suburbs now and then.
As much as I love the model of downloadable video, it's not going to kill the DVD any time soon. Maybe in ten years. | |
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join:2004-06-03
Kihei, HI | Video content be damned... ...I just want larger capacity optical disks for my own use.
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| | pfft HDs die... often.
DVDs last 100 years if you take care of them supposedly.
I still prefer the dvd/disc option as long as I can choose how I play it.
BTW, HDs can still be affected by the same kind of BS, Tivo enforcing ads anyone? | |
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| | | Re: pfft said by asdfjlk :
HDs die... often.
DVDs last 100 years if you take care of them supposedly.
I still prefer the dvd/disc option as long as I can choose how I play it.
BTW, HDs can still be affected by the same kind of BS, Tivo enforcing ads anyone?
I've read DVDs start to lose their data after 5 years. | |
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| | | | | Re: pfft said by sscyclehd:What? do the bits fall off the edge? The media decays. | |
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join:2002-08-09
Forest Hills, NY
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1 edit | dTV I think on-demand dTV and my army of HBO HD and Cinemax HD is plenty right now. They always show the popular movies anyway (Just saw Star Wars ep3 on Cinemax, it blew my mind at 1080i). I have Time Warner's Triple play, I didn't experience stutter on the screen nor did my internet slow down. Yes, This is with 5.1 surround and 1080i.
However, It's way to early to call HD-DVD and Blu-Ray dead. In the future one is sure to take off as people move to HD. There is a demand for larger audio/video optical media simply because people will want to collect movies at their highest quality. We have our VHS from the 80's. the DVD from the later 90's and now, HD optical discs for the next decade. | |
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 MiddiemanEschew Obfuscation
join:2001-02-05
Elkins Park, PA | I like my DVDs Sometimes I like to own a copy of movies on DVD, and I have a large collection.
I don't see myself supporting a format that I cannot watch over what I've payed for at another time.
HD disc formats may catch on once enough people have HD TV sets that good ol DVDs artifact all over the place with.
What is it about owning something that I like? I just do.
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| swhx7Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia | Re: I like my DVDs It's not just you - this is true of a lot of people.
I'll sometimes rent DVDs and sometimes buy, but it's important to have the option of buying. This is often disparaged by people saying it's "fetishizing a physical object" (or similar phrases) and that it's unnecessary . Such criticisms miss the point. The point is freedom. I just don't want to have to depend on subscribing to some service and paying by the month. Disks also provide the freedom to lend them to friends, and a means of making portable copies of any sort of digital files.
For these reasons, optical disks are going to stay around a while. | |
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join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
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1 edit | 1 Hard Drive is Way Faster over 100MBps read rate (7200RPM)
if using a raid it is 250-400MBps read
also u can use a RAID 0 or RAID 10
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join:2000-12-04
Hacienda Heights, CA | Re: 1 When high capacity solid state storage becomes cheap enough, then hard drive crashes will be a thing of the past. | |
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join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
kudos:2 | Re: 1 use raid-1 if that is an issue | |
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join:2003-09-16
Fort Worth, TX | I'm Old Fashioned... I like to "own" a physical copy of something that I have bought. Books, magazine, music, movies.
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|  ThirdShifterPremium
join:2002-03-16
Vernon Rockville, CT
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| said by qdemn7:I like to "own" a physical copy of something that I have bought. Books, magazine, music, movies. Soon you'll disagree when you can go anywhere that has internet access and you can just login and your entire library of films are stored on the WWW. Just click and watch.
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | bullshit How much of america will NEVER get anything more than dialup? How much of america is under verizon to get a real FTTP service? Wishful thinking is all that is that. When I can buy a 10 gigabit NIC for $500 then BluRay is dead | |
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|  MacLeechThe one and onlyPremium
join:2001-07-14
SoCal
kudos:3 | Re: bullshit said by patcat88: When I can buy a 10 gigabit NIC for $500 then BluRay is dead Almost there at $795....
»www.myri.com/Myri-10G/10gbe_solutions.html
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Re: bullshit Hmm, that seems to be the prices when gigabit ethernet first came out, i wonder whats the cheapest you can get a 10 gig copper preferably (im not going under a ocean) switch for. | |
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| | gloom and doom All this talk of HD dying off is non-sense. HD is here to stay, be it HD-DVD or the 2nd party. Broadband downloads will not replace these with the reasons already posted.
Ill put 50 on HD-DVD | |
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| | BluRay and HD-DVD is Dead BluRay and HD-DVD will be just as popular as SACD and DVD-Audio. The cost is too high for the little gains in picture quality and convenience.
Don't get me wrong I love HD movies, but I also have a large library of SACDs and DVD-Audio disks.
The majority of consumers don't care about quality as much as convenience. This was the big selling point of DVD over VHS. It's less convenient for the new formats. | |
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| | DefectiveByDesign No news here, see, Blu-ray and HD DVD feature DRM (Digital Restrictions Management), so products with HD DVD and Blu-ray are defective in the very way they were designed.
Both fun and educative video about DRM is here: »www.lafkon.net/tc/. | |
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| | HD DVD HD over Cable looks like crap compared to an HD DVD, HD over cable has nothing but artifacts. | |
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join:2005-03-14
League City, TX | Cost of broadband and hard-drives in massive scale? Think about it sending a disk is a HELL of a lot cheaper then sending it over broadband and sending a hard drive. Disks probably will never die.
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jdir
join:2001-05-04
Santa Clara, CA | 4G download to see DVD? I think it is cheaper and better to go to store and buy those $12 DVD rather than wait for hours to download a 4G DVD movie.
For HD-DVD that's like 20G file? gee, one day to download a movie on DSL? | |
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| | | Re: 4G download to see DVD? I guess it depends on your connection.. I'm on a 100Mbps fiber optic connection at my house here in Japan, I download DVDs to the tune of at least 10 per week.. anyway, from my favorite torrent site, it takes me less than an hour to get a 4.36gb .iso file DVD.... so I think nothing of it really.
But 20GB's will be a pain in the ass, even on my connection... lol
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join:2001-05-04
Santa Clara, CA | Re: 4G download to see DVD? oh rub it in. Tell us how much you pay per month for 100Mbps fiber. | |
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| | | | | Re: 4G download to see DVD? said by jdir:oh rub it in. Tell us how much you pay per month for 100Mbps fiber. lol.. I pay about 65 bucks a month. Not cheap, but.. it's unlimited, no caps or restrictions
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| | | I dont know what kind of connection you have. But a dvd takes me an hour to download. I havnt set foot in a video store or looked at dvd to buy in over 10 years. Either I download it or record it off of satellite. HDdvd and blueray are just a waste right now. Of course until there is a winner. The beta and vhs war is back. Will sony loose again? Time will tell. | |
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 JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA | Ownership I would prefer to own my media thanks. I'm tired of the "industry" thinking customers should endlessly rent their content. | |
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 MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL | I like my collection While I agree that soft formats will soon be largely outdoing the hard formats, I like to have a collection on my rack of my media. I have a book shelf full of records, a CD rack full of music, and a movie rack full of movies. While I keep lots of the stuff on my computer I like to have the hard backup in case of a hard drive failure or other problems. I think many people like having the disk in a box on display in their house.
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