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| Re: Not suprised at all said by TKJunkMail  :Your confession on a public forum and google-archived at that will be greatly appreciated by the MPAA if they decide to sue you. hey TCH, why don't you call your buddies over there and let them know directly. We want to get scofflaws like this guy off the internets before the MPAA goes bankrupt. | |
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Bit-torrent does have uses outside of piracy; you seem quick to indict.
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| Re: Not suprised at all The night launch of STS-116 in HD is amazing! I downloaded it from Nasa's website... on TWO computers!
Uh oh... The MPAA is going to appreciate that!
I hereby confess, on a PUBLIC, and GOOGLE-ARCHIVED forum that I HAVE DOWNLOADED HD VIDEO FOR FREE AND FULL WELL KNOW IT!
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1 edit | said by TKJunkMail :Your confession on a public forum and google-archived at that will be greatly appreciated by the MPAA if they decide to sue you. TC, sometimes its hard to see the forest for the trees on a public forum. It's not what one does not say, that gets one in trouble, its what is said, that gets one into trouble.
The point, made by TCH, is if the MPAA would subpoena BBR for those comments made. One may need to defend oneself in a civil lawsuit, proving the HD content is not copyrighted.
One gangster said to another, see that fish over there, if it kept its mouth shut it wouldn't got caught. This gem came from an after posting fortune 
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| Re: Not suprised at all said by guitarzan :said by TKJunkMail :Your confession on a public forum and google-archived at that will be greatly appreciated by the MPAA if they decide to sue you. TC, sometimes its hard to see the forest for the trees on a public forum. It's not what one does not say, that gets one in trouble, its what is said, that gets one into trouble. The point, made by TCH, is if the MPAA would subpoena BBR for those comments made. One may need to defend oneself in a civil lawsuit, proving the HD content is not copyrighted. One gangster said to another, see that fish over there, if it kept its mouth shut it wouldn't got caught. This gem came from an after posting fortune those comments are protected under free speech, unless mpaa had some other evidence it would be pretty hard to get this forum to turn over information | |
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1 edit | Re: Not suprised at all said by 81399672 :those comments are protected under free speech, unless mpaa had some other evidence it would be pretty hard to get this forum to turn over information What is there to turn over? The front page news items are a public forum, open to anyone(non-members). Anyone can read the items, including law enforcement and the MPAA. No subpoena's would be necessary like with the private member-only forums here. And besides, these news forum posts are archived in google for all time and again open to anyone to read. As to who the poster is, yes they would need a subpoena. But very very often a posters identity can be gleaned from other sources - often because they post that info themselves here and elsewhere.
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1 edit | said by TKJunkMail :said by 81399672 :those comments are protected under free speech, unless mpaa had some other evidence it would be pretty hard to get this forum to turn over information What is there to turn over? The front page news items are a public forum, open to anyone(non-members). Anyone can read the items, including law enforcement and the MPAA. No subpoena's would be necessary like with the private member-only forums here. And besides, these news forum posts are archived in google for all time and again open to anyone to read. As to who the poster is, yes they would need a subpoena. But very very often a posters identity can be gleaned from other sources - often because they post that info themselves here and elsewhere. Priceless!
Thanks for confirming that you are totally uninformed on relevant laws and legal proceedings.
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| said by 81399672 :those comments are protected under free speech, unless mpaa had some other evidence it would be pretty hard to get this forum to turn over information Free speech is protected, comments made are not. Did you hear the terms, libel and slander, one can be sued for it. Yes it would be easy to get that information, if not from BBR, then from BBR's ISP. DSLR, probably pays a $ mega bill for their bandwidth. Why would BBR want to spend more money then need be on costly lawyers.?
Google-archived speech is not protected , its still public free speech, which could be perceived as an admission of guilt, raise suspicion and possibly start a criminal investigation. Read the warning label when a dvd starts playing
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at least 10 hd movies i got was on bittorrent long before hd-dvd and blue-ray existed. quote:
The MPAA using twisted logic, could say all hd-dvd content at that time, on bit torrent was in violation of copyright, in addition to the DMCA. The Digital Millennium Copyright Act Makes it a crime to circumvent anti-piracy measures built into most commercial software. DVD copyright violation is a violation of federal law.
NOTE: I'm not saying the OP DID anything illegal, the greedy bastids know as the MPAA, may have a different view of those comments.
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1 edit | Re: Not suprised at all said by guitarzan :said by 81399672 :those comments are protected under free speech, unless mpaa had some other evidence it would be pretty hard to get this forum to turn over information Free speech is protected, comments made are not. Comments are protected under free speech. That's the point: speak your mind freely.
Did you hear the terms, libel and slander, one can be sued for it.
Which has nothing to do with his post, which you called above "comment.
Besides even these lawsuits are heavily restricted, one has to prove very severe damage to have the judge limit somebody's right to free speech.
Do your homework, bud.
Yes it would be easy to get that information, if not from BBR, then from BBR's ISP. DSLR, probably pays a $ mega bill for their bandwidth. Why would BBR want to spend more money then need be on costly lawyers.?
They don't need to: there's no judge that would issue anything based on a silly forum post like this.
It only exists in THC's mind, this kind of dictatoric regime, this is only his very telling wishful thinking...
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1 edit | said by TKJunkMail :said by 53059959 :high definition content was on bittorrent long before hd-dvd and blue-ray existed. I have at least 10 hd movies I got before any blue ray or hd-dvd movies came out. Your confession on a public forum and google-archived at that will be greatly appreciated by the MPAA if they decide to sue you. Could you be any cheesier than you are in anti-filesharing rhetoric based posts?
They have other people to sue. People that actually uploaded to their machines, where they have proof via IP address + logs from the ISP that it was them who was doing it, and even these are beginning to be questioned in court. The chances of them making a case against him are 0.1%, and the chances of it succeeding at 0.1% of that 0.1%.
Get real.
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Major props to the fellows who were crazy enough to read through all the HD-DVD spec documentation and work it out. Here's hoping the guys working on the Blue-Ray equivalent are just as successful.
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1 edit | Re: It is just an arms race I have never downloaded a Bit Torrent or other p2p copyrighted content. Personally, I do prefer to pay and foster more "good" content. But with each new hardware or media release is more and more DRM "crap" that limits how I can privately enjoy the content acquired.
DRM is no longer designed to avoid piracy. Is being design to control legit use and maximize revenue. You have a DVD and want to play it on your portable media player... their taught is..."well, you will have to buy that version too" | |
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| Re: It is just an arms race said by chemaupr :... Personally, I do prefer to pay and foster more "good" content. But with each new hardware or media release is more and more DRM "crap" that limits how I can privately enjoy the content acquired. "foster more good content" - hahahahahaha, that's a good one chemaupr! You sound like DeLong over at PFF. I think maybe you need to pay more, as there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of "good" content these days.
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I think maybe you need to pay more, as there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of "good" content these days.
If there's no good content, why bother stealing it?
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| Re: It is just an arms race said by Alpine : quote:
I think maybe you need to pay more, as there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of "good" content these days.
If there's no good content, why bother stealing it? Just to "stick it to man, dude?" Adam if it's DRMed content, it's not "good" content. I don't buy DRMed content and I don't "steal" content - I go without. | |
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| get a job Who cares.. not like it's worth watching them compressed or on a computer screen anything less than a 30" Dell. Most systems barely warrant DVD setups. Not to mention the bandwidth need to download these movies. Oh well I guess warez monkeys and losers without jobs are dancing in the streets. The rest of us who actually pay for these and use them on real home theater systems will get the shaft with some new version of HDCP or a new HDMI spec. Message to all unemployed late teen/20 something kids: Get out of your parents basement get jobs and buy media for the love of god! | |
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Who cares.. not like it's worth watching them compressed or on a computer screen anything less than a 30" Dell. Most systems barely warrant DVD setups. Not to mention the bandwidth need to download these movies. Oh well I guess warez monkeys and losers without jobs are dancing in the streets. The rest of us who actually pay for these and use them on real home theater systems will get the shaft with some new version of HDCP or a new HDMI spec. Message to all unemployed late teen/20 something kids: Get out of your parents basement get jobs and buy media for the love of god!
I bet those movies would look great to the 57inch display I have hooked up running 1920x1080i via DVI cable.
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| Re: get a job So that makes you a warez monkey with money. Still a thief either way. As for the guy who watches HD on his 17" computer screen I'm guessing he doesn't understand it's way too small to see all the detail HD has to offer and doesn't even support the full resolution. I know you guys get off sticking it to the "man" but it's pretty juvenile.. Honestly I think you're worse than the kid that downloads at home because you can obviously afford it. | |
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1 edit | Have the Keys Been Found? for playing content back. It's one thing to do the rip, but I didn't think people (other than the person who came up with the hack) had been able to find the keys to enable playback.
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| Re: Have the Keys Been Found? I know Blu-ray has that as a feature but I don't think HD DVD does. AACS can only revoke player keys on future releases. From what I understand AACS has a list of allowable player keys. The DVD Forum can revoke a player key and prevent future titles from working on that player but it blocks all users who use that player from future discs. | |
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12 Monkeys
Aeon Flux
Apollo 13
Batman Begins
Casino
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Chronicles of Riddick
Constantine
Enter the Dragon
Equilibrium (Jap)
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Happy Gilmore
Harry Potter GOF (UK)
KK
Last Samuri
The Matador
MI:1
MI:2
MI:3
The Mummy
Pitch Black
Red Dragon
Sahara
Scorpion King
Serenity
Superman 1
Superman 2 Donner Cut
Superman Returns
The Pianist (UK)
The Thing
Total Recall
Troy
U-571
V for Vendetta
We were Soldiers
WTC
Simple math tells us that every HD DVD title will be out there by February. Apparently the ways they're getting the keys isn't a straight crack. What they did was they exploited a flaw in a windows HD DVD software that allowed the keys to be pulled from memory. D9 has listed the entire catalog that's been cracked and the list keeps growing.
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I don't download movies, never have, and doubt I ever will. Too much time waiting for not enough payoff. I'll stick to Netflix....... | |
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3 edits | BackupHDDVD is overrated »arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20···564.html
the industry must invest in better protection technology,
or embedded marketing in the content to profit from pirates.
from my observations of regular DVD content,
they are already doing both.
I don't cry for content makers.
If they want to profit from all the new mediums
they must evolve to serve them ALL the best way possible.
instead of fighting a losing battle with a Bit Torrent culture,
they must learn to see this as free distribution for them,
not theft from them, and adjust their business plan accordingly.
I laugh when people on these threads think a few casual copiers here are a problem. the real financial threat to content providers are the nearly 2 Billion consumers in Asia who culturally believe it's their right to steal and redistribute content from the west. If you've walked through an outdoor market in Hong Kong or Mumbai, you'd know what I mean. | |
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While I'm not a proponent of adult content, who does Sony think it is to act as the moral judge of what can and can not be published on BluRay? But they apparently are not advocates of free speech. And remember, this company was the one who planted spyware on PCs using the root kit, thus resulting in lawsuits from just about every state in the US.
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I ask this because I'm a fairly regular torrent user and just out of curiosity I checked all the torrent trackers I use, and did not find any HD-DVD's at all. I found standard videos of the movies mentioned but certainly no HD-DVD multi-gigabyte torrents. This could very well be a hoax in my view. | |
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| Re: do these HD-DVD torrents really exist? said by kd6cae :OK it's been said that these torrents are out there, but has anyone actually seen one of these torrents, i.e. do they actually exist? I ask this because I'm a fairly regular torrent user and just out of curiosity I checked all the torrent trackers I use, and did not find any HD-DVD's at all. I found standard videos of the movies mentioned but certainly no HD-DVD multi-gigabyte torrents. This could very well be a hoax in my view. Yes they exist. I just went to a private torrent site and I saw a several HD-DVD movies. They are about 25GBs a piece so unless you've got a 100Mbps fiber optic Internet connection like me, I doubt they'd interest you anyway.
No I won't tell you what the site is, since they are now closed to new members and they are trying to keep a low profile now that the HD-DVD crack thing is big news.
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| said by kd6cae :OK it's been said that these torrents are out there, but has anyone actually seen one of these torrents, i.e. do they actually exist? I ask this because I'm a fairly regular torrent user and just out of curiosity I checked all the torrent trackers I use, and did not find any HD-DVD's at all. I found standard videos of the movies mentioned but certainly no HD-DVD multi-gigabyte torrents. This could very well be a hoax in my view. Yes, all you have to do is visit pirate websites to get movies or tv shows in HD format, thats your proof. The most common one I see is 720p for shows like 24 in my research. | |
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»www.techworld.com/opsys/news/ind···sid=7675
»www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12/28···nalysis/
Now, lately, support for Windows 2000 is being withdrawn. You see it in the way Internet Explorer 7, Media Player 10, and the new release of McAfee are not supported in Windows 2000.
Now, we have Vista getting ready to come out, complete with MPAA-backed cripple-ware. How long do you think it'll take the MPAA to convince Microsoft to drop support for XP like a hot potato? You can bet your hard drives that they'll do it.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is how Hollywood intends to keep on sucking everyone dry. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather pay for my "Premium Content" as I ought to, but this is starting to get out of hand, don't you think? Well, I dunno about you folks, but Linux based systems are starting to look positively sexy now. | |
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I have downloaded a lot of HD content and none of it was copyrighted. There are HD NASA feeds and TV stations that are all downloadable. 
