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HTC G1 Costs $143.89 To Make
Compared to $174.33 for the 3G iPhone
by Karl Bode Friday 14-Nov-2008 tags: prices · business · wireless · hardware
T-Mobile's HTC G1 smart phone, the first smart phone to feature Google's Android mobile operating system, carries a Bill-of-Materials (BOM) cost of $143.89, according to a "virtual teardown" conducted by iSuppli Corp. According to the group, the estimate only includes the component and material costs for the G1, and doesn't account for other expenses including software, research and development, manufacturing and accessories. The baseband ($28.49) and display ($19.67) are the most costly parts of the G1's construction. iSuppli previously stated it costs Apple about $174.33 to manufacture each 8GB iPhone, plus $50 on IP royalties per unit.

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ptrowski
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Many users here?

How have you liked the G1 so far?

en102
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Valencia, CA

Re: Many users here?

I tried it, and like it.
I only wish that it was available for that price on AT&T.

AT&T: Tilt (old) = $199 after rebates
AT&T: Fuze (new) = $299 after rebates
T-Mobile: G1 = $175 after rebates

If only the Fuze had a decent sized screen like the G1 or iPhone

Tilt: 320x240 = 2.8" screen
Fuze: 640x480 = 2.8" screen
G1: 320x480 = 3.2" screen
iPhone: 320x480 = 3.5" screen
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swhitney2003
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Re: Many users here?

I didn't realize the Fuze had a much higher resolution yet smaller screen. Those must be some pretty small pixels.

en102
Canadian, eh?

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Valencia, CA

Re: Many users here?

Yeah - kinda sad.
When I looked at the phone - its a bit like a brick, the screen looked kind of small, especially when I had an iPhone next to it.
Small pixels - makes all the images look real sharp, however, since the screen is so small, you wouldn't notice much anyways. Same screen size as tilt (physically), 4x the pixels (2x each direction).

Noah Vail
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I carry a tilt. I like it, end to end.

My only complaints:
400MHz processor - underpowered
Not enough ram.
Missing alt, ctrl, home, and end keys.

But I can modify the snot out of the thing, and that makes up for a lot. So does WiFi, 3g AND GPS; with nothing locked out by AT&T.

NV
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kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

Re: Many users here?

How did I miss this topic for a month...

said by Noah Vail:

I carry a tilt. I like it, end to end.

My only complaints:
400MHz processor - underpowered

Nonsense - it's just the *&^%$ Windows Mobile Pro and its laughably stupid, inefficient crappy architecture.

quote:
Not enough ram.

See above. Windows Mobile sucks when it comes to resource management, period.

quote:
Missing alt, ctrl, home, and end keys.

But I can modify the snot out of the thing, and that makes up for a lot. So does WiFi, 3g AND GPS; with nothing locked out by AT&T.

NV
I agree. I have a HTC Hermes (retail w/ front 2nd camera etc.) and I still use it with custom ROMs and it's a terrific device - too bad there's no Android for this.

I enjoy the zillions of apps and mods available for Windows Mobile.
BUT! I also HATE the stuttering, the instability, the "signature" slowdowns of EVERY Windows Mobile OS (WM Pro 6.1 still sucks big time) and while I admire the otherwise dumb, crippled OS(X) of iTard phones for being very snappy, I have to say G1's Android is so far the best of both worlds out there: VERY SNAPPY (easily on-pair with iTard) UI, excellent resource management, now with the dev version out there you can load ANY app, sleek design etc.
What still holds me back is the lack of stereo BT (A2DP) and the 2-year contract (retail price is a joke).

For Apple Android's arrival is very bad news - iTard just started making a dent on the world market then a free, very-well thought out, just as snappy open-source OS arrives, giving HTC, Samsung and all ther smartphone makers an entire platform for nothing, essentially reducing Apple'sadvantage over Windows Mobile (or Symbian, for that record) in OS features to zero...
Dunno but the increased competition in the Android camp will put a heavy downward pressure on the prices in 2009 and Apple will have to not only fix iTard's ridiculous problems very quickly but also start selling it in retail for a lot less otherwise they will quickly become just-another-phone, similarly like desktop Macs recently became almost irrelevant on the market (see latest ~40% drop in Mac desktop sales when PC sales or even Macbook sales numbers are up).
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moonpuppy

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said by ptrowski:

How have you liked the G1 so far?
Got 2 of them (one for me and one for girlfriend.)

Love them and I did play with a friend's iPhone. I found the G1 to be a lot more customizable.

Although the iPhone apps are more mature, Android is in its infancy and will grow with time.

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Re: Many users here?

said by moonpuppy:

said by ptrowski:

How have you liked the G1 so far?
Got 2 of them (one for me and one for girlfriend.)

Love them and I did play with a friend's iPhone. I found the G1 to be a lot more customizable.

Although the iPhone apps are more mature, Android is in its infancy and will grow with time.
Thanks for chiming in. I never heard much after so I was curious as to how it was.
moonpuppy

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Re: Many users here?

Right now, all the apps are free but I think that will change.

Some of the apps are pretty good but some show the old freeware/shareware feel of not being quite done.

One of the best is ShopSavy which allows you to scan a barcode with the camera and search online for the best price but it also depends on the product. I scanned 2 things in Costco last night (1TB WD external drive and an HP system) that it couldn't find but that might be because the warehouse stores usually have their own products not normally sold in retail stores.

Battery life is not great but I attribute that to playing around with it all day with all the bells and whistles turned on.
djeremy

join:2004-07-12
San Francisco, CA
I'm really happy with my G1 and it's by far the best phone I've owned. Makes my old (Windows Mobile 6) Shadow feel like a dinosaur in comparison. T-Mobile's 3G service is seems very snappy and I constantly get over 1mb download speeds on speed tests. My only real gripe is that there is no on screen keyboard for sending quick text messages, though I've heard that is in development.

tiger72
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i'm lovin my phone. Makes great calls, love the apps, love the feel of it... I'm very happy.

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Sort of a pointless article...

It doesn't cost $143.89 to make -- it uses $143.89 worth of parts, at least according to a third party's estimates. So what? If they dig into the real costs for software, R&D, manufacturing, accessories, and distribution -- THEN we can have a good old fashioned BBR bitch fest about those greedy so-and-so's.

Piggie
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Re: Sort of a pointless article...

said by jester121:

It doesn't cost $143.89 to make -- it uses $143.89 worth of parts, at least according to a third party's estimates. So what? If they dig into the real costs for software, R&D, manufacturing, accessories, and distribution -- THEN we can have a good old fashioned BBR bitch fest about those greedy so-and-so's.
I noticed the same thing right away, but not surprised. Often many of the "news" stories here are just fillers to keep up the Google ratings, is my best guess. This one though was particularly banal.
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mrchris
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What happened to..

...phones just being a....phone?

en102
Canadian, eh?

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Valencia, CA

Re: What happened to..

With all the potential profit to be made on data services, and money spent on 3G networks.. a phone just being a phone days are numbered, unless you're on prepaid.

CCNnorthcali

join:2004-03-07
Santa Rosa, CA
Some people want more out of their phones. If you want a basic phone, no one is forcing you to buy a G1.

»www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cel···kia-1680

chlen
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TMobile is the Problem

The Problem in my neck of the woods is that T mobile is not even really considered a real provider. VZ and Sprint have such a strong foothold that even though ATT has 3G it is a joke compared to EVDO, TMobile is about 5 years behind the other operators. It is great for cheap once in a blue moon cell phone users, but I have gotten used to the fanstastic coverage and the 2 mbit EVDO from Sprint.

Oddly I hear the exaxt opposite about TMobile and Sprint on the West Coast. So even though there was a demo of the G1 they could not show off the feature due to lack of service. I believe TMobile roams on ATT here.
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Pv8man

join:2008-07-24
Hammond, IN

I got my G1 2 days ago

I must say it is very well designed and I am satisfied with it.

My only criticism about the android though is that the battery life gets drained way too easly, unless you turn off all radios, bluetooth, wifi and other sync features.

I can barely make it through one entire day without having to recharge it, although I have been on it non-stop since I got it though.

tmh

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Can you use the phone as a modem for your laptop?

that alone would be be worth getting the phone.
ditka_b
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Barrington, IL

G1 is great, Iphone is too

Difference so far is you go to Iphone store and see $$$ and go to Android store and see same things but FREE

McShaken
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Olympia, WA

Waiting for Exchange

I'll bite when the G1 can work with Exchange...
ajac

join:2000-08-15
Norman, OK

Re: Waiting for Exchange

I will stick wtih my HTC pro so far so good 528mhz processor 328mb memory supports the largest sd cards and I can install windows mobile based programs and completely oopen and customizable I am happy. Iphones and G1's just to easy for me

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