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As a merger condition?
(old news - 01:35PM Friday Oct 27 2006)
tags: competition · fcc · coverage · business · telco
The phone industry's favorite critic Bruce Kushnick has posted his comments to the FCC about the looming BellSouth & AT&T merger. AT&T repeatedly states that they will offer upgraded DSL speeds and U-Verse IPTV to 19 million households by the end of 2008. Kushick proposes what he dubs a "novel idea": either holding them accountable to that promise, or breaking up the AT&T-merged companies.

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ub355

join:2005-09-15
Brookfield, WI

AT&T fetish

If at&t did not exist, this board would be empty of traffic.

Minister

join:2002-01-02
Fleeting

Re: AT&T fetish

Yes, go figure. The biggest merger of the decade, creating the nation's biggest multi-faceted communications provider, and people want to discuss it.

It is truly outrageous.
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

What consequences?

What will hold AT&T accountable? Spinning off their MOST PROFITABLE areas of Cingular to the likes of Sprint?

bigunk
Gort, Klattu Birada Nikto

join:2001-02-10
Santa Clarita, CA
·AT&T Yahoo


edit:
October 27th, @01:24PM

Re: What consequences?

We need Judge Greene back on the bench. Dig him up.

I was in a client's office the other day, and they had a number go down, so he called AT&T. The stupid sounding young lady on the other end said "Oh yes, I see that number in the system, but it's with the OLD AT&T. You'll have to call them to get this fixed."

The old AT&T? I thought AT&T was AT&T was AT&T. New? Old? What happened to the seamless service you get only from a company with the power and reliability of AT&T?

[pause to breathe]

Granted, this is not about broadband, but it's not much of a reach to see it happening in every business unit they have.

There is now basically one Ma Bell. We are screwed, and we need a ball-buster to go in and blow it up again, just like Judge Greene. Maybe Spitzer is up to the job. Level a RICO suit against the mighty AT&T.

'Course, we could end up with another Bernie Ebbers, taking on the world and printing his own money to acquire other companies. Oh wait....we do have that. Whiteacre? Dorman? Hmmmm....

[another breath...hang tight]

Once the reassembly of the Death Star is complete, just watch and see what happens to rates (up), service (down), innovation (gone). Only AT&T can provide you with yada yada yada. What BS.

I will now step off of my soapbox. Have a nice day.
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Televideo ergo sum.....
I watch TV, therefore I am.

leadd cable man

@sbcglobal.net

Re: What consequences?

Those old AT&T CLEC numbers have not been absorbed into the new at&t yet. It is still part of a legal process that has not been completely finished. Those customers should have been notified to switch over to the new at&t or get a new local service provider. Essentially those are grandfathered CLEC lines and the new at&t can't maintain them or access the accounts. Don't blame an uninformed end user on AT&T when it is not their problem.

bigunk
Gort, Klattu Birada Nikto

join:2001-02-10
Santa Clarita, CA
·AT&T Yahoo

Re: What consequences?

said by leadd cable man :

Those old AT&T CLEC numbers have not been absorbed into the new at&t yet. It is still part of a legal process that has not been completely finished.
Why not finished? The process should happen on day one. If it can't be done, hold off on the merger until it can.

said by leadd cable man :

Those customers should have been notified to switch over to the new at&t or get a new local service provider.
Those customers may have been informed, but I still think the process should be complete.

said by leadd cable man :

Don't blame an uninformed end user on AT&T when it is not their problem.
Sorry, but if the customer is stuck with the results of a merge, AT$T should jump through every single hoop to make sure the customer has no problems whatsoever.

Look, I am in the phone business myself. I deal with this crap a lot. I think the whole telco M&A issue is out of control. I think it is incumbent upon the carriers to do what it takes to keep customers happy. This will come to an end when Ma Bell is once again complete.
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lead cable man

@swbell.net

Re: What consequences?

If an ILEC (at&t) were to switch an end users service from a CLEC (old AT&T) then that would be illegal and unethical. The only one who can initiate a change of a service provider is the end user only. How can at&t be judged for that end users misfortunes. Give me a break. It's amazing how many people take any topic as a chance to comlain about telco companies.

Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02

Re: What consequences?

If there were a time to complain about telco companies, don't you think the week before a massive merger would be that time?

NPGMBR

join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA
·Verizon FIOS

I couldn't agree more. Same thing happened when Verizon gobbled up Bell Atlantic, GTE and others. It took them sometime to work through everything that I assume was overlapping or whatnot.

For the longest time if you called for support they would have to put through to the specific region you were from, but I assume that was because it would take time to integrate so much information.

But how in the hell do they expect you to call the Old AT&T? Thats a good one!

lead cable man

@swbell.net

Re: What consequences?

Because those companies were an ILECs and did not offer service in direct competition with one another. The old vs new AT&T is different. Old AT&T was CLEC whose goal was to take business away from SBC at the time. Apples to oranges.

owenhome
keeper of the magic blue smoke
Premium
join:2002-07-13
Wichita Falls, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
·AT&T Southwest

Madness!

If AT&T were held to it, they wouldn't know what to do! Propaganda is their way of doing business.... Make the world think we're moving forward while we sit fat and happy with our thumbs up our collective asses.

If this happened, I will guarantee you, AT&T would collapse into a quivering, violent, foaming-at-the-mouth seizure. Success through failure, that should be their mantra.
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ShadezeRO

join:2006-04-24
Fort Lauderdale, FL
·AT&T Southeast

Re: Madness!

Propaganda, Propaganda, Propaganda.

Thats what AT&T Stands for.

Bunch of hypocrite bastards. They just want to make them selves look better for the FCC.

I doubt they'll do anything by 2008. Most likely Fiber will be at who knows, 50mb (down) to the home, and DSL will be at its measly 6.0, but good news is. AT&T has a plan, but they are still trying to roll it out.

Hmm..I should be a fortune teller
hfhlt004
Sherman Oaks

join:2001-08-22
Van Nuys, CA

Re: Madness!

Last year, under SBC, upgrades were promised by the end of 2007. Now it is by the end of 2008. What will the next takeover be..........by the end of 2020?

morbo
Complete Your Transaction

join:2002-01-22
00000
clubs:
·Charter Pipeline
·AT&T Southwest


edit:
October 27th, @02:31PM

yes---merger approval contingent upon rollout levels

this is a no brainer. if AT&T is saying they are going to offer upgraded DSL speeds and UVerse IPTV to 19million households then make the merger contingent upon meeting this level by 2008.

since it's nothing extraordinary (they are putting out this the rollout levels and targets) why would they not agree to this?
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

Re: yes---merger approval contingent upon rollout levels

I predict a point where they will choke on deployment... 19 million broadband access lines in the combined sbc/att regions? (at least 5 million per year) Not likely, not even close.

Personally, I take special pleasure watching AT&T fumble the same way some other companies shoot themselves in the foot... (enron, Mci/Worldcom, sony, general motors, ford, adelphia). But, still, at&t could fix these problems with new management that is good at implementing deployment (last mile and network upgrades) better than our national foreign policy.

Rick
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
clubs:

I don't see this as a Problem....

As fast as the Death Star is gobbling up other companies, they'll have 19 million employees by 2008 to give the service to.


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