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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| Wow ??? I can't believe that it is actually available , with all those net problems in the Malaysia area happening can they really use it ?
And who needs all that speed... I would like to order 2 please. 
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join:2002-10-16
Seneca, SC | Re: Wow ??? In the US it would cost like 20 million a month for the same technology and speed. | |
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join:2004-06-25
Island Lake, IL | Re: Wow ??? right now comcrap charges 57$ for non cable tv subscribers,look at reliability of their servers,not to mention that we live in the most advanced country in the world.i envy residents of hong kong... | |
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join:2002-03-12
Glendale, CA | Re: Wow ??? Are you sure we live in the most advanced county in the world? Evidence in a number of areas does not support that conclusion. | |
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rwhubert
Bipolar Athlon
Premium
join:2002-07-26
Atlanta, GA
 ·CYBERONIC INTERNET..
| Re: Wow ??? Actually, no, we have slipped to like 13th place! Propaganda dies hard, but the USA is not the most tech country in terms of what is available to consumers. Nor do we have the highest living standard, not for at least the past 30 years. What we have now is not a "democracy" nor technically even a "republic" ... we have a "corporatocracy." Giant corporations control everything, including our governments at the federal and state levels. They can get gigabit pipes installed, we can't even get 10 megabits. Many of us are lucky to get 3 or 5 megabits. | |
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Digital_Boy
@sbc.com
| Re: Wow ??? Ah, pardon me, but your blatant display of ignorance was too much to ignore.
China did *NOT* do anything to Hong Kong until the British returned it to them in 1997. Prior to that, Hong Kong was (and still is) one of the most thriving havens of laissez-fair capitalism. As such, there's money to be spent, and businesses that are willing to spend it to future proof themselves. Beijing has been keeping the party's fingers out of HK's pie because they don't want to kill it's economic viability. They've been keeping their PSTN, cellular and data networks up to snuff for the last 20-30 years, so there is plent of fiber in the ground there that has been there for years. The majority of mainland China has almost no copper or fiber in the ground at all. This is why China is going for cellular technology in a big way, since it'd be prohibitively expensive for them to bury fiber to cover all of China.
This gigabit service is offered in Hong Kong only, and only in those buildings where it's wired (I'm guessing in high density urban housing, since that's where the majority of their customer base is) only. I defy you to show me an example of some private citizen outside of HK getting gigabit speeds for $215 a month to their home, say in Shanghai, or any other province of China.
30 years ago, the internet didn't exist outside of ARPANET and a few mainframes at large universities. There weren't cheap, powerful PC's in 80 to 90 percent of American households to fuel the demand for bandwidth like there is now. And all the fiber first laid at the onset of the upgrade to an entirely digital communications network was multimode fiber at first, since that was the limits of the technology in the early 70's. Now single mode fiber is the rule, since it has much better loss characteristics and ultimate bandwidth capacity. | |
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@hewitt.com | Re: Wow ??? That was a very informative post! Gratz to your ability to kill the troll. | |
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rwhubert
Bipolar Athlon
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join:2002-07-26
Atlanta, GA | Re: Wow ??? You don't need to do that, dude, it's been done for us! | |
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gdepp
@69.57.x.x | Re: Wow ??? does anyone know the range for this new hong kong 1gb broadband ?? | |
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join:2002-05-13
Renton, WA
| "right now comcrap charges 57$ for non cable tv subscribers,look at reliability of their servers,not to mention that we live in the most advanced country in the world.i envy residents of hong kong..."
That's the most funny CRAP i've read all week!! | |
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BonezX
Basement Dweller
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join:2004-04-13
Canada | most what now ? | |
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join:2001-11-05
Boca Raton, FL | we DON't live in the most tech advanced country in the world anymore. Period.
That's very old myth.
Thank You gov for that and thanks for total monopoly on communication.
We badly need real competition on that. | |
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guitarzan
Premium
join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA
·epix
| 1Gbps Service in The USA ? You can have it.Just as long one does not *actually* use it.Then you will get upload capped to 56k and download capped to 1500. Im so sorry says CSR at tech desk Did you really think you could use that bandwidth.? I guess you did not read the TOS or the fine print.Please remember no servers allowed
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rtcpenguin
Premium
join:2001-01-21
Fairfax, VA
·Cox HSI
| Re: Wow ??? Its getting to the point where it doesn't even seem to matter. I guess if you pirate full DVD's at 5gb all day this might be worth it, but for regular browsing and gaming, who needs more than a symmetric 50mbit pipe?
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cao1964
join:2000-08-09
Danville, PA
| Re: Wow ??? That is just incredible, but I be happy with 50 Mbps haha and that is not happening for ever and a day, but hey why should we complain after all the corp. people tell us we don't need it and the gov. tell us its ok to take medication that has been ban in EU for 5 years so you really think that stuff will be here in our life time, I think not. | |
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letsdividehere
@verizon.n | So, would that mean you could get 250mbit for around $50?!?!?!?!
Wow, cool... you'd still max out 100mbit ethernet and need giabit+ routers/switches... | |
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fartness
Computersoc Dot Com
Premium
join:2003-03-25
Look Outside
clubs: | Too slow; I want to download XP SP2 instantly. Wake me up when we get there. | |
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PliotronX
My Katamari's Bigger Than Your Katamari
join:2000-05-13
Sunland, CA
| Re: Wow ??? 2 seconds is pretty damn close to instantaneous I'd say (in human clock terms, not computers where nanoseconds matter LOL). The express install of SP2 would be an instant on a gigabit. Now whether or not even Microsoft's distributed load balancing servers could withstand meeellions of gigabit transfers like that, I dunno. It'd be so fast though that there wouldn't be much of a chance for a que to build up  | |
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join:2004-12-29
Brooklyn, NY | U.S. ISPs look like a joke compared to even 25% of that speed. | |
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Harddrive
Premium
join:2000-09-20
Norwich, CT
| Re: Wow ??? Look at the other speed tiers that HKBN offers:
Symmetric 100 Mbps for US$34/month and symmetric 10 Mbps for US$16/month.
US Telcos and Cable companies are scum of the earth that lie in a comfy bed with the FCC and other government agencies/politicians/etc.
I wish I was a lobbyist for a big interest group. | |
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ssbn729vet
@comcast.net
| "I can't believe that it is actually available , with all those net problems in the Malaysia area happening can they really use it ?"
That is the same as saying to someone in Houston: "With all those net problems in the New York area happening can they really use it ?" | |
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
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| Re: Wow ??? said by ssbn729vet:"I can't believe that it is actually available , with all those net problems in the Malaysia area happening can they really use it ?" That is the same as saying to someone in Houston: "With all those net problems in the New York area happening can they really use it ?" No it's not, the malaysia area interconnects happen to peer with HK and they use the same links for interconnects. The area is having problems and yes HK is having them too.
But you have to question if that service is good if that problem persists.
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sahirs
join:2002-02-14
Singapore
| Ummm - your geography seems a bit off! The announcement is about Hong Kong - different country, different companies, 4 hours away on a 747!
said by BosstonesOwn  :I can't believe that it is actually available , with all those net problems in the Malaysia area happening can they really use it ? And who needs all that speed... I would like to order 2 please.
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Pope
Premium
join:2001-08-05
Napa, CA
·Comcast
| Yep... Well, I'm envious. I'd pay that without blinking an eye. Of course in the US you would have to scour the TOS to make sure they weren't going to cut you off after the first 10 MB of downloads. 
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AbBaZaBbA
Premium
join:2002-07-10
Wildomar, CA | ha Forget 1gbps i'd be happy with 100mbps for that price. | |
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| BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
| Re: ha said by AbBaZaBbA :Forget 1gbps i'd be happy with 100mbps for that price. I think 90 % of bbr users would be happy with 10 mbps service for that price.
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join:2003-05-03 | Re: ha How about 34 US dollars a month for the 100 Mbps? xP | |
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justmesqui
Just-
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join:2004-05-14
BH9 2RJ | Where ? | |
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join:2003-05-03 | Re: ha Check the article; it lists 34$ for 100 Mbps symmetrical and 16$ for 10 Mbps symmetrical from the same company | |
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Optimized
Premium,Mod
join:2001-05-03
Pompton Lakes, NJ
clubs:
Host:
RCN
Patriot Media
Cellphones, Provid..
Other Manufacturers
| said by justmesqui :Where ? quote:
HKBN Premium bb1000 service is being offered on the same metro Ethernet infrastructure that delivers the company's Mass Market bb100 (symmetric 100 Mbps for US$34/month) and Entry Point bb10 (symmetric 10 Mbps for US$16/month) services.
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pkarlos_76
join:2004-08-24
Edmonton, AB
| said by BosstonesOwn :said by AbBaZaBbA :Forget 1gbps i'd be happy with 100mbps for that price. I think 90 % of bbr users would be happy with 10 mbps service for that price. ehehehehe, I come close I got 7mb down and 1mb up. | |
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FTCXtreme
join:2005-03-14
New Braintree, MA | Not really 1 Gbs It nothing but a LAN, the actual internet pipe is much much smaller, and there is limited access c'mon this is Hong Kong China, they're communist you actually think they'd get the full internet? | |
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rawgerz
In Debt we trust
Premium
join:2004-10-03
Grove City, PA | wow yeah really who needs 1 gigabit = 128 megabytes?! id rather take 1MB down and up for $40
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gazz111
@co.uk | Re: wow HK have had 6mb, 10mb for ages now... was only a matter of time before it was upped.
Only problems with it is the amount of hops to servers in US & UK... really knocks the hell outta the line. | |
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join:2002-02-15
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA
1 edit | Re: wow 1MB = 8 mb :P
i would take 1 MB
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Only problems with it is the amount of hops to servers in US & UK... really knocks the hell outta the line.
International business men would use that line, but i doubt the general populace of HK would be loading up the us and uk backbones. so consumers probably wouldn't care | |
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lyls
@tele.dk | they have 10mbit for $16 and i think it was 100mbit for $36? | |
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pcdebb
RIP dadkins
Premium
join:2000-12-03
Tampa, FL
clubs: | screw this..... I'm moving to the orient.... | |
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cao1964
join:2000-08-09
Danville, PA | Re: screw this..... hey its not as bad as you think, good I did a tour in the Mil. 1 year in Korea, it was preaty good, lots of fun, just a different life style that is all, don't think its that great here in the USA. | |
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ColdFiltered
join:2005-01-25
Atlanta, GA
| Its one fricken city. Who cares! When any so-called provider can deliver that kind of coverage to say 30-50 markets then let me know and I'll take them seriously.
BTW, I could deliver 1Gbps from 'this' PC to the one downstairs but I ain't going to brag about it. For a single municipality, maybe the benefit can be seen in terms of VC1-based IPTV. Even at 10-Mbps channels HDTV on the order of 100 channels could be mustered. | |
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OceanaJones
join:2004-10-18
Suffolk, VA
| Oh my! look how fast.... Look how fast your money flies out of your pocket. They can keep their supposedly 1 Gbps for that amount of money. It's just not worth it. Really, about the only ones to afford this would be the people running my city government. They could justify spending that amount of taxpayer money for each of their departments with no problem at all. | |
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Gamer69
@adelphia.net | And on a related story.... "Honk Kong has been named the #1 country for software piracy!"
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jrsmooth
join:2000-05-17
Washington, DC
| Re: And on a related story.... said by Gamer69:
"Honk Kong has been named the #1 country for software piracy!"
--makes ya kinda go....hmmmm?!?!?!?
Pardon my ignorance, but since when HK is a country?
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA | Re: And on a related story.... Come on...Honk Kong is in the south seas near Honk Horn. | |
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Elcabong
Cuba SI, Castro NO
join:2000-03-09
Philadelphia, PA |  Remember 56K?
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FTCXtreme
join:2005-03-14
New Braintree, MA | Re: Remember 56K? Im still on it :-( C'mon Verizon Deploy! | |
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Mchart
Super Joe
join:2004-01-21
Gurnee, IL | What I want I'd be happy with a 8mbps symmetric DSL service. Great bandwidth, and great speed. | |
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MarkyD
Premium
join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs: | Eventually... Eventually, the world will be one LAN, speed wise. Unfortunately, the US will be one of the last developed nations to actually adopt the speeds to make it happen. | |
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cao1964
join:2000-08-09
Danville, PA | Re: Eventually... Even then why would they do it here, its not like anybody in the USA cares how backward they are. | |
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Sean
join:2004-01-23
Ottawa | Good for them. Good for them, I say. Hopefully they'll be able to influence the North American ISPs... | |
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brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | Re: Yea right Let me tell u something if the parts are made in china then they dont have to worry about there services lol | |
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gr8onez
join:2003-02-10
Richmond Hill, ON | amazing That speed is amazing. But still extremely expensive for the average user. | |
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hok
join:2002-02-27
2 edits |  No that fast for the Internet ...
The lowest tier is fiber to the building with no installation charge, up to 10 mbps symmetrical speeds for both local and oversea traffic for US$19 per month with first 3 months free for 15-month term so customers only pay US$19*12 for 15-month term contract that equals to about US$16 per month.
The second tier is fiber to the building with no installation charge as well, but up to 100 mbps symmetrical speeds for local traffic and oversea is up to 20 mbps symmetrical speeds only for US$35 per month with first 3 months free for 15-month term so customers only pay US$35*12 for 15-month term contract that equals to US$28 per month.
The third tier is fiber to the building also but has US$619 installation charge, up to 1,000 mbps symmetrical speeds for local traffic only. Oversea traffic is limited up to 20 mbps symmetrical speeds only for US$216 per month with 3rd, 10th and 15th months free for 15-month term so customers only pay US$216*12 for 15-month term contract that equals to US$173 per month.
The fourth tier is the highest tier that offers fiber to the home and has US$876 installation charge, up to 1,000 mbps symmetrical speeds for local traffic only. Oversea traffic is also limited up to 20 mbps symmetrical speeds only for US$216 per month with 3rd, 10th and 15th months free for 15-month term so customers only pay US$216*12 for 15-month term contract that equals to US$173 per month.
After all, I found their user’s oversea speeds test result at »/archive/ctinets.com. They are just a fraction of maximum advertised oversea speeds caps either 10 or 20 mbps.
I further found speeds tester for Hong Kong local traffic only at »www.speedtest.com.hk/. When I try to use its speeds tester to download 100 MB of test file from »ftp://download.speedtest.com.hk/100MBvideo.zip got “Cannot find server or DNS Error”. Wonder the tester is not available to oversea users or not. | |
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join:2004-07-06
Alhambra, CA | Re: No that fast for the Internet ... At least they are given the choice, the only choices I get is either cable or dsl ,and the speed is exactly the same. I'll take the red pill thank you | |
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| BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
| said by hok :I further found speeds tester for Hong Kong local traffic only at » www.speedtest.com.hk/. When I try to use its speeds tester to download 100 MB of test file from » ftp:// download.speedtest.com.hk/100MBvideo.zip got “Cannot find server or DNS Error”. Wonder the tester is not available to oversea users or not. HK and Malaysia right now are getting beat up by some really bad interconnect problems. Many of the isps there are running on back up and even service links at the moment and have been running at limited capacity since april 7th or so. So I wouldn't take that to bad yet.
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thisismyname1
join:2004-07-26
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| I would be happy just being able to get FIOS Hell I would be happy with 15/2Mbps for $50 a month. Not to mention the 100Mbps for $35 a month is better I would just hope for FIOS. 4Mbps/384Kbps for $60 sucks.:(
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nfixit2004
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Brooklyn, NY | Re: I would be happy just being able to get FIOS I think 100mbps will hold me down for a lil while 
heck 10mbps would do me very well right now for $34 per month
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join:2002-01-25
Costa Mesa, CA | " A T1 is $600 a month THIS IS NEWS! Usually a T1 is 1,000 and a T3 is 10,000 "
T1 here for $550 a month. Installation was quiet expensive but i have been up for 14 straight months.
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jrsmooth
join:2000-05-17
Washington, DC
| said by thisismyname1 :Hell I would be happy with 15/2Mbps for $50 a month. Not to mention the 100Mbps for $35 a month is better I would just hope for FIOS. 4Mbps/384Kbps for $60 sucks.:( Agreed. | |
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Gogo1
join:2004-05-27
Brooklyn, NY | Entry Point "Entry Point bb10 (symmetric 10 Mbps for US$16/month) services"
10mbit "entry point" service | |
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gobblygook
@ne.jp | Yeah, yeah, but, but... our bits are better than their bits. So there! USA! USA! | |
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jervin123
join:2005-04-14
Philadelphia, PA | china fiberoptic my friend in china has a 15mbs symetrical pipe he said its about 75.00 us a month and im getting 10mb/1mb | |
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| cptmiles
Premium
join:2004-04-22
Swayzee, IN | Re: china fiberoptic When he does a speed test what does he record? After reading all these posts I wonder if there isn't some symantics issues we are dealing with. | |
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GeorgeSK
@telecom.sk | 1000 Mbit Hong Kong, 20Mbit international I read in a different article, that 1 Gbit applies only for Hong Kong, international connectivity allows for 20 Mbit/s on the same network. | |
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Hong Kong: 1Gbps Has Arrived
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Re: 1000 Mbit Hong Kong, 20Mbit international