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2 edits | Re: no photos? said by jc100:What a horrible waste. Really, my god. 4 Hours of talk time then it needs to be tossed? Who said it needs to be tossed? It can be recharged. It comes with a charger for the $10.
»www.technewsworld.com/story/63139.html
The phone does come with a travel charger.
The $10 phone does not come with a SIM card, so users will have to swap one out of another phone or buy one. If the user isn't swapping out a SIM associated with an active plan, he or she will need to buy a prepaid phone card for minutes. But you need to buy a sim card or transfer one from another phone.
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1 edit | Re: no photos? Pretty simply put, people will most likely buy this phone for travel and toss it afterwards (charger or not). Those that don't toss will probably stick it in a draw, forget about it, and buy another one at a future date. A 10 dollar "phone" leaves little for responsibility. Your average user who has a phone with a sim card ALREADY is going to get a MUCH better deal going through his or her carrier. Seriously, what's the purpose of A) Buying a sim card and a card with minutes or B) buying this phone and swapping out your sim card? Unless you are a traveler that worries about losing your phone and doesn't like having a contact list at your disposal, why the hell would you want this. According to the article, IT HAS NO SCREEN. IE it's a toss away phone that MOST people who have a sim card wouldn't want. Along with that, most business travels NEED a contact list and a screen. Hence, this item is one that will end up in landfills for said reasons. | |
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| | | | | What am I missing here? How does this save me anything?
Let us say that I have a SIM cell phone already. The SIM is the soul. It has the time/contract on it. Moving it from phone to phone? Why?
Calling the Hop-On phone on the weekend gets me nothing. Not even a way to leave a message. Poorly thought out.
Any of us can go to a thrift store or a yard sale and find a used cell phone for less than $10. Try to have it activated though. If it is a SIM phone and I move my card to it-what am I gaining?
The initial hype is not well organized. The "four hours" is battery talk time. Not actual "talking" time.
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1 edit | said by nuoldfast:What am I missing here? How does this save me anything? Well, if you are a terrorist on a budget, this will let you carry out your jihad without going into debt.
HELLLLOOOOO...!
I can buy THREE of these for the same price as a Tracfone.
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A Motorola Tracfone is $9.99. Just the new phone- no time, no minutes.
John- How was the weather today?
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| | | | No, it doesn't need to be tossed. It has a standard Lithium Ion battery. They just mean "disposable" because it's so cheap, and therefore isn't a big investment if it gets lost, smashed, etcetera. | |
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kudos:2 | said by jc100:What a horrible waste. Really, my god. 4 Hours of talk time then it needs to be tossed? How many people are going to bother to recycle the phone for another? This is just crap. I hope this company dies and dies fast. Do we REALLY need more stuff added to landfills? You really should seek some help.. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: no photos? said by jc100:Yes, I do need help. Help to make people like you recognize that we're a wasteful society and that having a brain is a valuable asset. Therefore, I'll seek the help of educated, as teaching you and the likes is going to be one hell of an uphill climb. It's not disposable! Not sure why you have so much hate for them. | |
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1 edit | Re: no photos? Easy: Read my post to TK JUNK MAIL.
Pretty simply put, people will most likely buy this phone for travel and toss it afterwards (charger or not). Those that don't toss will probably stick it in a draw, forget about it, and buy another one at a future date. A 10 dollar "phone" leaves little for responsibility. Your average user who has a phone with a sim card ALREADY is going to get a MUCH better deal going through his or her carrier. Seriously, what's the purpose of A) Buying a sim card and a card with minutes or B) buying this phone and swapping out your sim card? Unless you are a traveler that worries about losing your phone and doesn't like having a contact list at your disposal, why the hell would you want this. According to the article, IT HAS NO SCREEN. IE it's a toss away phone that MOST people who have a sim card wouldn't want. Along with that, most business travels NEED a contact list and a screen. Hence, this item is one that will end up in landfills for said reasons. | |
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Winston Salem, NC | Re: no photos? It's ideal for prepaid use - cheaper than buying a used phone off ebay to go with a prepaid "starter kit" (about $10 for a prepaid SIM) | |
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NYC Metro | said by Rob:said by jc100:What a horrible waste. Really, my god. 4 Hours of talk time then it needs to be tossed? How many people are going to bother to recycle the phone for another? This is just crap. I hope this company dies and dies fast. Do we REALLY need more stuff added to landfills? You really should seek some help.. He makes complete sense. I think you need to look for some help.
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kudos:2 | Re: no photos? said by Tzale:said by Rob:said by jc100:What a horrible waste. Really, my god. 4 Hours of talk time then it needs to be tossed? How many people are going to bother to recycle the phone for another? This is just crap. I hope this company dies and dies fast. Do we REALLY need more stuff added to landfills? You really should seek some help.. He makes complete sense. I think you need to look for some help. LOL No he doesn;t. It's not 4 hours of talk time then needs to be tossed.
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NYC Metro | Re: no photos? said by Rob:LOL No he doesn;t. It's not 4 hours of talk time then needs to be tossed. Stop stalking me, psycho. Stalking? Get a life. More like you post in the same f*cking forums I post in on this site.
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kudos:2 | Re: no photos? said by Tzale:said by Rob:LOL No he doesn;t. It's not 4 hours of talk time then needs to be tossed. Stop stalking me, psycho. Stalking? Get a life. More like you post in the same f*cking forums I post in on this site. -Tzale lol. | |
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NYC Metro | said by jc100:What a horrible waste. Really, my god. 4 Hours of talk time then it needs to be tossed? How many people are going to bother to recycle the phone for another? This is just crap. I hope this company dies and dies fast. Do we REALLY need more stuff added to landfills? I agree completely... What a complete waste in this day and age.
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This will be good, now we can rid ourselves of the scam that is Tracfone.
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| Re: What an idea! said by S_engineer:a phone exclusively for talking ..... I had been holding off getting a back up family shared phone because of what I felt were cell phone scams - especially when you can't disable text messages! I just need a phone that the family and kids can share that does not need a contract and does not cost alot for the phone. Every where I went I was told such a phone didn't exist unless I added it to my existing "contract" and the obligatory early termination fee (even if I bought the phone out right). That just seemed wrong to me. Other times sales people tried to make me seem as if I was unamerican for not wanting to text every one, and not surfing the net from my phone? What part about parenting do they not understand. The phone is for my kids to share for emergencies and such, not a fashion statement. I guess my thinking is backward from others as I welome this alternative.
I read the terms for pay as you go phones like Tracphone. Tracphone seemed like the biggest scam I ever came across. | |
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| | | | Re: What an idea! Hello. I have switched to Tracfone.
I researched the others. I had to make a choice and elected to go Tracfone.
It is a matter of both time and minutes.
Here we have two adults, each with a Tracfone. Occasional, brief contacts.Totally controlled by each user. They are a means of communication.
We are saving a "bundle" versus the previous cell provider.
Yes, no unlimited nights and weekends. That is why we have Skype Pro. We have laptops for the mobility and connectivity.
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| | | | | Re: What an idea! I don't have Tracfone but have purchased quite a few for various reasons. You are limited on their prepaid cards because they expire every 45 days. So regardless of usage, you must repurchase minutes, unless you go for the 500 minutes a year for $150. No bargain there either because no matter how you cut it, you pay between 45 to 50 cents a call.
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| | | | | | Re: What an idea! I have the Tracfone, 800 minutes and DMFL, and one year of service for $142.
The five major prepaid players can drive a woodpecker nuts with their phones, plans, time, minutes and "features".
It is possible to reduce your per minute cost to 10 cents-or less. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: What an idea! said by nozzer:Virgin - for the wife I have their 90day top up $15. So only $60 a year. She hardly uses the thing so it has over $200 accumulated on it already! What sucks is have to keep feeding it whether you use it or not.
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| Only the cheapest card expires in 45 days.
The 60 unit cards expire 90 days.
Wait for Tracfone to offer their "twofer" deal (2 60 unit cards and a refurbed phone for $20) and the cards then cost about $10 each - so $40 for 360 days of service.
said by S_engineer:I don't have Tracfone but have purchased quite a few for various reasons. You are limited on their prepaid cards because they expire every 45 days. So regardless of usage, you must repurchase minutes, unless you go for the 500 minutes a year for $150. No bargain there either because no matter how you cut it, you pay between 45 to 50 cents a call. | |
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$15 every 3 months. Non expiring credit rolls over to next month. | |
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Johnston, RI | Is this real or a remake of their earlier attempt Yup could be cause they tried this once before with a $30.00 disposible phone and found out that it was part of a nokia phone. It seems they kinda got caught with their pants down in the early 2000's
Here is their website: »www.hop-on.com/
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2 edits | Are they really available? Not that I want one, but there seems to be no way to actually buy one. I looked all over the web site and found no working links to a shopping cart or stores where they're sold.
Also, most of the GSM phones are only tri-band, lacking the 850mhz found in many places in the USA. This would drastically limit their use. | |
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New York, NY | Interesting, but whats the point? I only see a limited market for these phones in all honesty. I also suspect that the "green" crowd will throw a fit over this business model. Other than drug dealers (or in limited use as a promotional item), a simply prepaid SIM is a much better choice. Why would you get an entire new phone when you can simply switch out a fingernail sized SIM card instead??
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kudos:1 | $0.02 per minute? Is my math correct? If I recycle the phone I'm only paying $0.02 per minute? Pretty good deal. | |
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kudos:6 | GREAT NOW they announce it after I bought a new one.
Still, that's PERFECT. Where can I get one/?????? | |
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Bozeman, MT | Re: GREAT Disposable phones
The Hop-On phone seems to be the frontrunner here, albeit of a pack that has been fairly slow to market. Today, Southern California is the only area of the country where you can walk into a store and buy a Hop-On phone (at Walgreens), making them an option for a relatively small group of people at this point. (A company spokesman says a recent deal with Fluent Wireless will put the product in 300 stores throughout Tennessee, Iowa and Wisconsin by the end of the second quarter.)
»moneycentral.msn.com/content/Sav···6469.asp
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It's great for someone who doesn't want to spend a lot of money on a mobile.
So you can only talk? That's fine with me. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but to me, a mobile is just like POTS.
Only there's no wires, the battery may run out on you, and talk time is more expensive (though the cost difference is much smaller than it once was). That and no faxing or dial-up.
If I wanted to get another mobile after my contract ends, I'd seriously consider this. The only reason I might not is if I was sure that I wanted to go to Europe, where the bands are different. | |
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| | | Re: Why the hate? The GSM phones look like they will all work in Europe. Like I said before, though, there is no link to purchase them. It seems they are looking for resellers, not end users. | |
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| Re: Why the hate? »hop-on.com/hop1800.html
This link suggests that there are two versions. The North American version, which is 850/1900, and a European version, which is 900/1800.
As for buying it, you're right. I don't see any link to buy it. I also searched on Google with the terms 'HOP1800 Buy' (without the single quotes), but I only saw press releases.
The next cheapest device I'm aware of is the Nokia 2610. From T-Mobile, anyway, they claim the retail price (without a plan) is $70. That's still not a huge amount, though it's enough that you don't want to lose it if you can. | |
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Riverhead, NY | Great Idea I don't have to buy service from them. I already have service.
Now when I go somewhere where I do NOT want to carry my nice phone, instead of using my beat up old Razr (which has a busted screen anyway), I can swap my SIM into this.
If my SIM gets lost, it's $35 to replace. With the cost of the phone - $45. Alot better than a $300 phone replacement.
I have destroyed two phones previous to this (water/beer damage - what can I say) to keep my good phone in good shape.
This is on the same level of a disposable camera. If you want good photos - you bring out your nice Canon/Nikon. If you want the ability to snap a photo, but are concerned about the camera - you buy a disposable camera. I view it exactly the same. | |
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| | You've Got To Be Kidding Available accessories include a leather case.
ROFL. A sawbuck toss phone in an extra cost leather case. What a ridiculous concept. I bet the case costs more than the phone.
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He loses it, see if it attracts fish, etc... no big deal. | |
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kudos:4 | Expire bullshit does it have this crap that all the other prepaids have[minutes expire] and the bigger thing: what network does it use?
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| | this phone will be a benefit to me some of us here aren't rich or have good credit due to life circumstances and we would like the opportunity to have a phone. I don't own a cell phone due to the cost. Now I will be able to afford it and I will recycle it once I am done using it. I don't talk much on the phone, nor do I use text messaging, so it will be of value to me to have. I am glad there is a company that is finally waking up to the need to serve people who can't afford a cellular phone. | |
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| | | Re: this phone will be a benefit to me said by capeman12345:I am glad there is a company that is finally waking up to the need to serve people who can't afford a cellular phone. What the heck is wrong with you?
What makes you think that your own petty wants and desires could possibly be half as important as the fate of the planet? Don't you realize that environmentalists know and understand just what this world needs long before people like you and I ever could?
Get with the program, pal!
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I'm right there with you: I had a phone until about this time last year, when I could no longer justify blowing $35 a month for something I used scarcely half a dozen times a year.
So I, too, would like to have one of these El Cheapo phones.
And anyone who thinks that these phones are a terrible idea is perfectly free to hang onto their money and not purchase one. But I would ask that such people please stop pretending that they know exactly what's best for other people.
The release of this phone is not going to mean The End of The World. So all the self-styled environmentalists out there can stop pretending it will.
Better yet, perhaps they could channel their energies into creating a five dollar phone that poor people could more easily afford?
Unless, of course, they can only derive enjoyment from depriving people of things, rather than making things available to them. After all, bringing things to people at prices they can easily afford is not as easy as it might sound. | |
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| | READ the DETAILS You still have to BUY AIRTIME $10 phone that gives you four hours of talk time
My phone gets 6 hour's talk time
Where does it say you get 240 Minutes of wireless carrier use?
You still have to buy service. check the just released link in the story
The Hop 1800 is a prepaid cellular phone with no display. The device works with more than 40 U.S. wireless carriers, including AT&T, Cingular, and T-Mobile. Hop-on also offers wireless service.
The concept behind the new device is to offer a phone to people who need it only to talk. U.S. travelers in Europe or Asia, for example, could buy a local SIM card to avoid expensive roaming fees, or people who can't afford subscription cellular service can use the device with a prepaid plan.
Who many of you got caught off guard? read the whole story. | |
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| | | Re: READ the DETAILS You still have to BUY AIRTIME Note Somewhere else I saw this, but I don't for sure.
On a per-minute basis, the first 60 ring in at 66 cents a pop for the Hop-On phone, but this includes the phone and accessories. Additional minutes are 25 cents each. All minutes expire after 6 months unless you buy additional talk time. | |
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kudos:4 | said by jimmytjams:$10 phone that gives you four hours of talk timeMy phone gets 6 hour's talk time Where does it say you get 240 Minutes of wireless carrier use? You still have to buy service. check the just released link in the story The Hop 1800 is a prepaid cellular phone with no display. The device works with more than 40 U.S. wireless carriers, including AT&T, Cingular, and T-Mobile. Hop-on also offers wireless service. The concept behind the new device is to offer a phone to people who need it only to talk. U.S. travelers in Europe or Asia, for example, could buy a local SIM card to avoid expensive roaming fees, or people who can't afford subscription cellular service can use the device with a prepaid plan.
Who many of you got caught off guard? read the whole story. Oh its just a cheap handset. that "4 hours talktime" made it sound like it was a buy it for 10 bucks and you got 240 minutes then toss it. i knew it sounded too good to be true.
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| | | | Re: sim card question No. Pull the sim out of your phone and it will say somthing like SOS 911 only. Active or not a cellphone must be able to call 911.
"Basic 911 rules require wireless service providers to transmit all 911 calls to a Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP), regardless of whether the caller subscribes to the provider’s service or not."
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