  ThalerPremium
join:2004-02-02
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:3 | Wallet Talk You want to charge me for WiFi access at your hotel? Sure!
I'll just be staying next door, thank you very much. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| Re: Wallet Talk Count me in with the people who find it surprising that, as the cost of the hotel increases, the probability of free WiFi decreases. Granted, the free WiFi tends to be a Linksys router or three spread around the hotel, pulling bandwidth from a business class DSL or cable connection, but the system sometimes works better than a T1 feeding a few Cisco wireless acess points. | |
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Wallet Talk said by iansltx:Count me in with the people who find it surprising that, as the cost of the hotel increases, the probability of free WiFi decreases. Granted, the free WiFi tends to be a Linksys router or three spread around the hotel, pulling bandwidth from a business class DSL or cable connection, but the system sometimes works better than a T1 feeding a few Cisco wireless acess points.
not just wifi, everything. as the cost of the hotel goes up expect more fees for everything. Why are local calls free at the discount hotels but a dollar or more at an expensive hotel(not that it matters with my cell id never use a hotel phone unless an occurance made it wiser or faster to use the land line). But I guess I should not be surprised, higher end hotels target higher end clientele who do not care about costs or more importantly they cater to business travelers who just expense everything and their employer writes off as a business expense on their taxes.
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join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:5 Reviews:
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| Unless you're talking about a 9 story Hilton, that simple setup works perfectly fine. And it's pretty damned cheap. I know several that use residential cable/dsl for each AP -- you can usually get 2-3 residential lines for the cost of a business line.
The thing is, hotels spend more on advertising per day than they do "free WiFi" per year. Operators are being blind fools if they think people aren't choosing where they're willing to stay based on fees and other perks. I won't stay anywhere that charges for parking or wifi, because I know they're just being greedy little MF's.
(I know a bank that does the same thing. That's the only network outside contractors are allowed to use. i.e. if you aren't an employee, you don't get access to the bank's network.) | |
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join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC
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| Re: Wallet Talk As someone who has been responsible for trying to get more bandwidth to quite a few hotels, let me tell you, it's not easy or cheap!
Even in big cities, hotels are rarely located where broadband options are plentiful. This is particularly true for new hotels. I've ended up having several hotel operators have to chose between keeping a saturated 1.5mbps T1 at $300-400/mo or upgrading to 3.0 or 4.5mbps at $600-1300/mo.
When you add an extra $600/mo fixed cost to the bottom line operating costs of a 200 room hotel, that instantly removes $3 per room in profit from their operating expenses. That may not seem like a lot but in the hotel world, that's a margin squeeze. Someone is going to have to pay for that... and that someone is the hotel guest who will either pay through increased room rates or through added fees.
In larger hotels you have a greater economy of scale but I can tell you from experience that it's like pulling teeth with a pair of pliers to get a hotel owner to spend $4000-5000/mo for a 45mbps DS3 to power "free" WiFi for a 1500 room hotel!
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join:2004-02-02
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:3 | Re: Wallet Talk My favorite is when you do pay these extra fees, then find out the internet service is horrible. They may have paid a lot for their hardware, but as a customer using the service, I could care less when my $X/day fees are for dial-up speeds. | |
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We had several contracts from the resorts in Vegas. Most of the time their networks were top notch. The best setup I have seen included a ethernet circuit connected to an Adtran DSLAM in the basement. From there they ran DSL to every room, and put in a wireless modem/router combo.
What was great about this is there was a wifi AP in every room, so if one went down, it didn't matter..there were 10 others to choose from... Most calls from there were customers needing help connecting using a non-windows wireless client. | |
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join:2009-12-22
Siren, WI
kudos:2 | Re: Wallet Talk said by Go Tarheels:What was great about this is there was a wifi AP in every room, so if one went down, it didn't matter..there were 10 others to choose from... That sounds like an RF nightmare with only 3 non-overlapping channels to choose from. Every room seems way overkill. I'd think every 3rd room would be plenty. | |
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join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:5 Reviews:
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| Somehow I find that hard to believe. You're building hotels where there's no cable TV??? Sure, there are lots of areas in NC where the broadband options are slim and none. I really don't think it matters in a hotel where even my cell phone has no signal. (there are a number of those places around NC/SC.) Mega-hotels aren't built in those locations, because there's no demand.
Yes, the mega-hotels will have significantly higher requirements and thus costs. But those aren't cheap hotels to begin with. | |
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Siren, WI
kudos:2 | Re: Wallet Talk said by cramer:Somehow I find that hard to believe. You're building hotels where there's no cable TV??? Lots of hotels are built near the interstate highway intersections, many of which are out of the range of where the ISP or cable company has built their service because there are (or at least were) no homes and very few businesses there. | |
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| MrHappy316Wish I had my tankPremium
join:2003-01-02
Summerville, SC | Don't forget some of them higher end places won't even give you a fridge or nuker unless you pay to "upgrade". | |
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Re: Wallet Talk Hotel rooms are for sleeping, showering, and fucking.
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|  CabalPremium
join:2007-01-21
Austin, TX | I haven't seen a hotel offer free wifi in years, except for the sleazy Comfort Inn-type places. *shudder*
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| Re: Wallet Talk To me that almost sounds counter intuitive. I am not doubting you, but I thought that a five star hotel got it's rating because it provided more amenities, not less. And I had thought that a Motel 6 was cheap because you just got a small room and that's it with no extras. Yet now this concept seems to be turned on it's head. | |
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| | | | | Re: Wallet Talk said by john262:To me that almost sounds counter intuitive. I am not doubting you, but I thought that a five star hotel got it's rating because it provided more amenities, not less. And I had thought that a Motel 6 was cheap because you just got a small room and that's it with no extras. Yet now this concept seems to be turned on it's head.
They are rated based on available services, not free services. Though I would love to see a secondary "value for the $" rating system. | |
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|  wings10I Am LegendPremium
join:2004-06-09
South Elgin, IL | Tell that to the Convention that needs to do a video conference needing dedicated bandwidth of at least 15Mb. | |
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Cortland, NY | Hilton charges 10 bucks a day for shared T1. My crappy 2 star hotel give free access to a D3 cable modem. Yes its shared but shared 30 mbit beats T1 almost any day. | |
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join:2001-02-11
Hernando, MS
1 edit | Re: Wallet Talk That connection will also get you a max bandwidth of 256kbps on average as of a year ago. I had to do end user support for it. | |
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Gainesville, GA | It is one of my pet peeves. That's why i stay at lower tier hotels. The few times i opted for the fancy stuff, i was bitten with wifi fees and other fees. luckily i have a datacard so i can use my own but come on.. 200$ a night and you want to charge me 10$ for internet and 3$ for a bottle of dasani tap water.
Posting this from a cheap motel FREE internet. Take that! | |
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | I bet some hotel where fearing services like Netflix for awhile. afraid that streaming VOD services would not only eat up their network but would also let people sidestep their own in house VOD system.
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join:2007-09-17
Kissimmee, FL
kudos:1 | Re: Bandwidth is that tight? 35/5 can you add up 20 rooms minimum 5 watching netflix and 10 maybe youtube and voip at the same time? | |
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| Re: Bandwidth is that tight? Maybe I am not the normal hotel customer..but when I am in a hotel it is either on business or for vacation. While on business I don't have the free time to watch youtube or netflix; and while on vacation watching netflix is the last thing I would be doing.
I don't think most people expect low latency(VoIP)/high bandwidth(Netflix HD) connections while at a hotel. They just want a basic connection to check email, browsing, etc. At least that is all I need. | |
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join:2002-01-22
00000 | Re: Bandwidth is that tight? said by Storage_Guy: They just want a basic connection to check email, browsing, etc. At least that is all I need.
Dial up should serve you nicely. What's that? You don't want slower internet speeds even though you are only doing "basic connection" activities? Well then maybe you are one of those customers that wants high speed internet that is actually high speed. | |
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join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | Re: Bandwidth is that tight? ..and which laptop actually comes with a modem port lately?
Oh ya.. THEY DON'T. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: Bandwidth is that tight? My wife's 4 month old Lenovo T520 has one.
shop.lenovo.com/us/products/professional-grade/thinkpad/t-series/t420-t520/ | |
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| | | | | said by Storage_Guy:Maybe I am not the normal hotel customer..but when I am in a hotel it is either on business or for vacation. While on business I don't have the free time to watch youtube or netflix; and while on vacation watching netflix is the last thing I would be doing.
I don't think most people expect low latency(VoIP)/high bandwidth(Netflix HD) connections while at a hotel. They just want a basic connection to check email, browsing, etc. At least that is all I need.
Personally,
I don't know why anyone is setting in front of their computer watching tv/movies, to begin with?! What a waste of time and life!!
I know for a fact, I would not be doing that on a business trip or vacation!
Some people just don't know what it's like to go outside anymore, I guess. 
Oh yeah,
Who didn't see this coming anyway? Surprised it didn't happen a while ago already.
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join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC Reviews:
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| Remember that cable modem connections, even business class ones, have TOSes that specifically forbid their use for resale or guest WiFi. Yes, go read the TOS for Time Warner Cable Business Class. It's in there.
Same thing applies to most inexpensive connections. Read the TOS.
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| Re: Bandwidth is that tight? From Time Warner's Business class TOS:
Customer agrees not to resell or redistribute (whether for a fee or otherwise) the Service, or any portion thereof, or make any use of the Service other than for Customer’s internal business purposes, unless otherwise agreed in writing by TWC.
Giving WiFi to your customers is an internal business purpose. | |
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join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC Reviews:
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| Re: Bandwidth is that tight? Actually, I've had clients w/ TWCBC connections in certain markets have them terminated citing this clause. TWCBC has hospitality packages that include guest use and come w/ a WiFi addendum but they are not the standard product/pricing. Basically if TWC sees you reselling their product to someone else, and decides they don't like it, you're toast.
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join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY | My 99 a month 2*15 business class cable modem lets me use it for guests and customers. I am not allowed open wifi though to anyone that is walking by. | |
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RDC17
join:2011-05-15
Baltimore, MD | Where it's heading... Soon the only place where you will have unlimited, uncapped, and unthrottled internet is your home. But even soon that may be a thing of the past. | |
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| | | Re: Where it's heading... said by RDC17:Soon the only place where you will have unlimited, uncapped, and unthrottled internet is your home. But even soon that may be a thing of the past.
soon? have you read some of the stories here? heck even my isp has a 250GB cap (not enforced, yet) | |
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| cramer
join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:5 Reviews:
·AT&T Southeast
| Really??? AT&T DSL - 150GB. AT&T Uverse - 250GB. Comcast Cable - 250GB. Clearwire's unwritten cliff. All the major cell networks now have caps. (or very shortly will.) TWC is pissing blood they want to do it so bad. (their previous "tests" proved to be a bad idea at the time.) And the list goes on and on and on.
As long as greedy a$$holes with MBAs keep thinking they're "leaving money on the table", they're going to want to charge per bit in both directions. | |
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | as long as the thought of consumers using their connections to the point of what they think they actually paid for the caps will only get worse. the ISPs are likely cheering on the content owners for slowly killing netflix streaming. if Netflix dies that is one less "strain" on their network.
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join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
kudos:1 | I think I'll pass The quality of Wi-Fi offered in many motels/hotels is comparable to much of the "continental breakfast" offerings I've seen ... extremely unsatisfying. | |
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| | | Re: I think I'll pass AMEN...it's ridiculous how poor WiFi points in general perform at hotels. The same can often (sadly) be said for their wired ethernet option (if it is even offered). And the ones that have the gall to charge for said crap service are nuts. | |
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| | | Agreed, and strangely enough, the cheap hotel's wifi was slightly faster than mid-grade hotels.
That said, often times on vacation this year tethering my CDMA phone was faster than the hotel wifi. | |
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MrHappy316Wish I had my tankPremium
join:2003-01-02
Summerville, SC | Seriously? They are already overcharging, $10 bucks a day normally in some of the higher end hotels. I can get Wifi in a plane in the stratosphere for that much.
I guess this goes back to the meaning of vacation, ditch all the connections. | |
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| | | Re: Seriously? I've seen this too. Visited Atlantic City this summer, stayed at the Tropicana once and the Borgata once.
The Tropicana doesn't charge for wired or wifi.
The Borgata charges $10/day for it. | |
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | yea its stupid, there is no way that hotels that charge $10/day will have no trouble meeting demands for keeping up with bandwidth needs.
in your example of the Borgata, if every room where occupied and bought wifi that would be 28k per day inbound money just off wifi. and 840k per month. how much does a large pipe cost per month?
hotel wifi is likely almost pure profits.
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join:2009-06-23
Tallahassee, FL | I rarely travel anyway, so the wifi fee is pointless for me. From what I can tell, the wifi was slower than the wireless network in my uses. I will just nurse my unlimited smartphone data as long as possible. | |
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join:2002-10-01
Anchorage, AK | Free low-speed I stayed at a hotel recently that offered free Wi-Fi limited at I believe 128 kbps - plenty for checking email and light browsing. The full-speed option was five or six dollars for my entire stay. I just tethered my phone instead. | |
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join:2003-05-03
Atlanta, GA
kudos:1 | Hotel have free WiFi?? Maybe it's the hotels I stay in but most charge!
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join:2001-12-28
Eatonville, WA | Don't expect more speeds for more money I travel a lot and typically stay at various Marriott brand (Platinum Member) and Hilton brand hotels. For about 3 years now the Marriott brand has gone to 768K max for their download speeds and the upper end versions charge for the access. The Hilton brands have started doing the same with similar speeds.
I recently stayed in several Super 8 Motels on a road trip and found their free Wi-Fi was at 3Mb or faster.
I've complained to the Marriott Management about the speeds and the only answer they give is to hand you over to their "Network Support" company that just wants to trouble shoot your connection. The problem is not with the connection it is with the speed you are throttle at.
I have started changing which hotels I stay at as a result of their policies. I will not make Platinum this year, maybe not even Gold level. I won't stay where I can't get enough bandwidth to do my work.
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| | | Re: Don't expect more speeds for more money "I've complained to the Marriott Management about the speeds and the only answer they give is to hand you over to their "Network Support" company that just wants to trouble shoot your connection."
Ughhhh.... I hate this so much. We supply internet to alot of Marriot type properties and very often we get tickets opened by desk clerks complaining our circuit(s) are slow. Usually after wasting time trouble shooting the problem is that the customer was complaining about the 768k and they (desk clerks) think that means the internet was slow. | |
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| |  CjaicemanPremium,MVM
join:2004-10-12
Parker, CO
kudos:2
·Comcast Business..
| Re: Don't expect more speeds for more money said by battleop:Ughhhh.... I hate this so much. We supply internet to alot of Marriot type properties and very often we get tickets opened by desk clerks complaining our circuit(s) are slow. Usually after wasting time trouble shooting the problem is that the customer was complaining about the 768k and they (desk clerks) think that means the internet was slow.
I wish I could even get that at the Marriot I stay at... This was the best one I could get there, yet the mall 1/4 mile down the road had several open wifi access points that I got 7-10Mbps on with my phone... | |
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join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:21
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| Hotels and Wi-Fi. Most of the places I've been to offer Free Wi-Fi, if not all of them now offer it. They used to charge in the past some $5-10 a day for usage. The same places that used to charge often times had nothing more than a cheap DSL or Cable line, or perhaps a T1 running the whole thing with several Linksys routers located in the ceiling to cover everything. My experience with Hotel Wi-Fi has been pretty good for the most part. As long as it's set up correctly, it tends to perform well. The places I've seen running a T1 line only tended to choke down during the night, but it wasn't bad enough to the point where nothing would load up. It would just take a second or two longer.
The last Hotel I stayed at back in the summer used to be one of those ones that offered Paid Wi-Fi in the rooms but offered Free Wi-Fi everywhere else (and was also one of those "Bad" Wi-Fi places). Both the Free and Paid APs fed off of the same WAN setup: A Sprint T1 and a Verizon DSL connection. Their gateway was often overloaded, probably from blocking too much content or from the connections switching between each other too often. Their Wi-Fi network ran off of nothing more than Linksys WRT54GL routers, with some older BEFW11S4s located in parts of the Hotel (which are still in service today, since those APs haven't failed yet). Recently the Hotel has decided to ditch the Sprint T1/DSL dual-WAN setup in favor of placing the Hotel network onto a 3Mbps/768kbps Verizon DSL connection, and putting the rest of the network on a 10Mbps/2Mbps Cable modem connection. The APs are all the same, Linksys routers running as APs. Their Firewall has pretty much gone from "Active" to "Passive." They decided to run Ethernet to every hotel room as a part of a major remodel, as well. Lastly, the Hotel network went from "Paid" to Free after ditching AT&T Wayport as a Hotspot Operator. Since they made the changes, their network as a whole has improved 10 fold. The DSL connection maintains 2.8Mbps/740kbps when there are not others using it, even though that connection liked to drop out constantly due to the lines going to the building being shoddy (Go Figure). If others were on in the Hotel, the connection handled pretty well but latency would skyrocket if you put the slightest load on the connection, though that would be due to a latency issue related to Juniper ERX.
As far as their Cable connection goes? Rock solid. Could download all day, all night or heck, even upload all day, all night and not see a single dip in perceived speed. Yes, they have one Linksys router in a key which has not allowed clients to associate to it in over a year, perhaps it's dying but they are using it to pass a good amount of traffic at least over Ethernet, but there are other APs in range that provide the max speed due to their setup and density. Granted, they were using residential gear to run their Wi-Fi setup and handle the onslaught of every device under the sun connecting to them, but I'd have to say their large LinksysNet (probably close to 50 Linksys WRT54GLs?) holds up a lot better than other places I've seen running Enterprise gear with Fiber back-haul to the Internet. Granted, that might be from any reason but I was rather impressed when that place fixed up their network and actually made it free, and went as far as allowing their IT department to repair Ethernet ports for people who called in a defective port (such as I ). Kudos to them. All I know is, the place went from a guy who knew a bit of networking and computers and contracted Hotspot support out and worked during the night, to a handful of guys who knew their stuff. | |
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|  SeleniaI love DebianPremium
join:2006-09-22
Lanesboro, MA
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| Home APs/routers can work fine, provided the people plan the network right. All but the AP for my backhaul is. Most cheap wireless routers can be setup as APs and usually run good, when not shouldered with all the routing. A couple micro boxes running smoothwall does this for my network. Best router you can buy or make. 2 NATs, of which I run a guest network isolated from my LAN for company. Even a cheap Netgear that doesn't explicitly allow AP mode and is terrible at routing has a good wireless output when using the LAN port hack(setup LAN and subnet same as main router, give it a high IP outside DHCP range on smoothwall router(as it handles DHCP and routing), turn off DHCP and plug the ethernet into the LAN port, instead of WAN and away it goes. Its strong signal made me stick it in the roof of the outhouse as one of my outside APs. Good use of a cheap freebie given to me. Too bad not many will realize its exceptional wireless for the price when using it as a router. As I said, its routing stinks and does not have an explicit off option. The LAN port trick works for most those routers. I see an average of 60+ mbits anywhere in the house, with often 3+ clients sucking down HD video and such over wireless at the same time. Even in 2.4ghz. The hotel would need a good main router, like me. Probably a few more APs for good coverage and load balancing. All the rest of the gear running as APs, not routers. The other guy's 12 nat network he mentioned at a hotel is just nuts. Only 1 machine should be doing routing. I only have 2 nats to keep guests off my own LAN and its resources like dlna servers.
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join:2002-01-30
Valley Stream, NY | Selling Point I choose hotels on the principle of need. When I had to work remotely, good wifi was a must (wired = better) and must be reliable. But usually I go for leisure anyway, so as long as bed is there I am fine.
Last placed I stayed at, wifi was so horrible that I ended up tethering
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My cell phone only gets my internet traffic. Again not 100% secure, but much more.. | |
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I don't expect much with free wi-fi, but if I'm paying for it it better be good.
Recently stayed at a hotel in Vegas that had a "mandatory resort fee" which included internet and IT SUCKED!
I travel now with my own portable internet service. Now good anywhere I am, and a day or two of "paid" service is less than my monthly fee.
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So fleebag=usually free or nothing
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join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
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| man Man, is everybody on the money grab train lately? Screw it lets just shut down the power plants, gas lines and go amish for a while to help out this major burden people are putting (theoretically to justify the price increases) on the system... My god nickle and dime to death.. Its like the whole world has gone att on us | |
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| wings10I Am LegendPremium
join:2004-06-09
South Elgin, IL | Re: man Yes everything should be free to everyone. No one should be able to make / earn money.
Socialism for ever!!!!!!
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join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
kudos:1 | Re: man By socialism if you mean regulation of price fixing and risk to the public then bring it on! If by that you mean what some on wallstreet are protesting for (hand outs) then heck no! | |
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| tablet surcharge since many smart phones & tablets are much more transPortable than laptops and micro desktops (think micro gaming box the size of a large toaster) hotels think they have the right to overcharge.. and you have the right to shop around..
the last time I was at a hotel almost 10 years ago (outside boston) the front desk person was such a scumbag.. wifi wasn't even a selling point at the time... but it's amazing how convenient low vacancy hotels at their discretion won't accept coupons from their local tourist mags... and want to charge full price.. that night we slept in their parking lot and moved on to a better hotel for less. these type of businesses are predators to desperate people and they sense that which can make a BIG difference on what they charge for last minute rentals. not enough to complain to the better business bureau, but close. who wants to pay $160 for 6 hours of sleep in a bed when traveling?
you'd think that the downturn in the economy and a lack of major tourism visas from outside the USA would make this a "BUYER'S" market.. but leave it to the greed from OIL companies to transform this economy into a price gouging mecca for businesses. it's probably WORSE NOW THEN BACK IN 2003! | |
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jfmezeiPremium
join:2007-01-03
Pointe-Claire, QC
kudos:22 Reviews:
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| Trend already begun Youth hostels in Australia now charge for wi-fi. In fact, they charge more per day that unlimited prepaid mobile service on Optus that includes both voice and data at $2/day.
Now, this is for a youth hostel with people on budgets and paying out of their own pocket.
For business hotels, they are likely to think that since a large porportion of bilsl end up being paid by some employer, they can afford to milk customers much more, so wi-fi costs may be quite high.
While an employee can't justify getting reimbursed for "hotel pool access fee" or porn movies, he is likely to be able to justify the wi-fi costs in order to let him do work, catch up on his work emails etc. | |
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