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| Re: Arnold doesn't legislate laws; wrong target of ire said by TK Junk Mail :Guess what, the governor does not write the laws in California - the legislature does. I agree, The Governor doesn't write laws here, The Terminator is innocent. -- (14.70GHz crunchin 4 SETI w/the PC Perspective Killer Frogs) | |
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| Typically biased reporting Although the underlying, linked stories make it clear that the DEMOCRAT controlled legislature was bought and paid for, the article finds a way to slam the REPUBLICAN Governor over old news about who is/was on the PUC.
Sheesh, we know you're biased, but couldn't you at least TRY to be a little less blatant about it?
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|  |  AquaBlaze Premium join:2004-02-02 Encino, CA
| said by TK Junk Mail :And pro-industry(not anti-consumer) legislation like state wide franchising was passed in a bi-partisan manner by the legislature. Kinda playing semantics, aren't we? Does this also mean any pro-consumer law is therefore anti-industry as well?
Yeah, I guess calling things by their pros rather than cons makes for a happy picture. | |
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| Re: Arnold doesn't legislate laws; wrong target of ire said by AquaBlaze :said by TK Junk Mail :And pro-industry(not anti-consumer) legislation like state wide franchising was passed in a bi-partisan manner by the legislature. Kinda playing semantics, aren't we? Does this also mean any pro-consumer law is therefore anti-industry as well? Yeah, I guess calling things by their pros rather than cons makes for a happy picture. Pro-industry and pro-consumer aren't opposites unless a Democrat &/or populist is running for office and is pretending to be a champion of the people. -- -- Internet News My BLOG My Web Page | |
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join:2004-03-19 Covington, LA | Re: Arnold doesn't legislate laws; wrong target of ire Pretty much | |
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| said by TK Junk Mail :Pro-industry and pro-consumer aren't opposites unless a Democrat &/or populist is running for office and is pretending to be a champion of the people. Sorry, but the interests of consumers and industry rarely are the same. What is good for the consumer often is not good for industry and vice versa. Nice try though. | |
|  |   StickToTheFacts
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| Guess what, the governor does not write the laws in California - the legislature does. But he does have to approve them... So, while he might not write them, he does have an important role in the legislative process and that can be called into question when his office's actions are looked at in light of the money he has received from lobbyists and campaign supporters. | |
|  |  Shoreline Your Freedom Fries Are Stale
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| The issue with Ahnold was more like the last bastion (given the veto power) in blocking Telcos from doing even more of "whatever the f we want".
It's clear most the Senate Democrats were bought out by the telcos long ago. The lack of consumer protection, and corporate adulation has long become tiresome. | |
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| he'll be back.... for more money, of course. (that is the "before" pic) -- I am not herbert. | |
|  |   xdeadhead 220, 221, Whatever It Takes. Premium join:2000-11-08 Pangea
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| this is the "after" pic... mwhuahahahaha!
have a great weekend fellow dslrs! | |
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| Re: They Bought Him? OFF TOPIC
Damn good law too. 16 year olds SUCK at driving. Who the hell wants testosterone laced idiots and gabby girls to be distracted when they lack the necessary driving experience to being with? It's no different than handing them a loaded gun with the safety off. They might know how to use it, but tell them its jammed, and half of them would look down the barrel. At that age, responsibility and common sense simply are lacking. Hence, for the safety of everyone else, their eyes need to be on the road and not focused on their conversation. Recently, they passed a law here that 16 yr olds can't have but more one other person in their car at a time. This includes a parent. Another great law that I support. You are a minor and you are being given a privilege. Driving is not a RIGHT. If you wish to keep this privilege, you must show you are trustworthy enough to earn the greater responsibility of having more folks in your car. | |
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| Re: They Bought Him? Too bad this law(ordnance)doesn't apply to under 21's as well. I live in a college town(San Luis Obispo), and it's been nuts around here with all the newbies that are starting school tomorrow(9/17) driving around while having a cell phone planted on one ear as if they are "The Borg". Was almost hit twice the past week while I was in a cross-walk by some dum-a@# not pay'in attention to driving-probably chatting with friends/parents how bitch'in it is to be here in S.L.O. Can't wait till January '08-then you'll need a Bluetooth unit to use your phone. Although, it probably won't stop the 18-21 group from STILL driving like idiots...or any other age group, for that matter!!!  | |
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| Re: They Bought Him? Stridr,
Very Very true. At least you'd hope the 18-21 group would have more experience, but apparently, there are still some dumb ones among them. In my personal assessment, the 16-18 year old group is the worst (High School). I think 19 year olds still fall here, because they are either still in High School or just becoming college freshman. Their experience with life and driving is still rather limited. However, I truly hate sharing the road with 16-18 year olds. Nothing beats seeing them speed, swerve, or be distracted. When you combine this with the inexperience behind the wheel, you got a dangerous situation. This is not to say that adults aren't bad drivers, too. I have seen MORE than plenty. It's just statistically speaking, the 16-19 age group is at the highest risk for accidents. Much of this behavior is attributed to immaturity and plain stupidity. I for one have nothing against setting restrictions on the. To bad these laws can't apply to 16-20 year olds. I believe at 21, you should finally acquire full privileges. | |
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| Re: They Bought Him? I completely see your point but would like to add that if they are "responsible" enough (they being a broad brush) to be placed in Iraq with a loaded weapon, driving a 10K pound vehicle then despite the risk I am willing to share the road with them. By no means do I disagree on a lot of your points just that I don't think restrictions such as those should be placed so quickly on that demographic group.
Just another view. -- Yeah, but at least I get cronjobs nightly. | |
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| Re: They Bought Him? RRnet,
Being given a gun doesn't equate to responsibility in the least bit. In my opinion, thats a pretty far stretch on your comparison. Let's face it, very irresponsible people are given the right to do something simply by reaching an arbitrary number. While no number is going to fit everyone, there is a certain amount of life experience that is expected for one to be allowed participation in a certain activity (driving, drinking, smoking, movies, etc). By no means do those 18 year olds in Iraq have that. Merely, they are looking for an opportunity and I fully believe many do not know what they're getting themselves into. A big part of this is due to what I would call the "Superman Complex". Nothing is going to hurt them and they are invincible. Why do you think traffic accidents are so high for the 16-19 year old age group? They think they can drive as fast as they want, party as much as they want, and all will end well. Sadly, life is not like that. Yet, for people of this age range, that mentality and maturity to see that fact simply has not yet developed. Hence, to equate being able to shoot and die with responsibility is nothing I would state on my own. It's your opinion of course, but I beg to differ on it. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |   tacoma Bleeding Dodger Blue Premium join:2001-05-18 Riverside, CA
| said by erin1 :Even tho i am more of a democrat, i must agree with the poster above the above poster. I am really impressed and happy with the way Schwarzenegger has/is handled issues as governor. Arnold isn't a Republican, his policies show as much.
He certainly is much better than that abortion of a Governor "Gray" Davis. | |
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| Re: They Bought Him? said by tacoma :He certainly is much better than that abortion of a Governor "Gray" Davis. Not exactly bragging right material IMHO. That's like saying you totally kicked the crap out of a quadruple amputee at a game of soccer. | |
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| You can have him, please take him! I am VERY disgusted with his underfunding of our high speed rail »www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/default.asp , thankfully, he will be gone someday, hopefully sooner than later. Amtrak California, Amtrak, Metrolink, Caltrain, etc. are all doing VERY well and are booming, ole Arnie is blind to reality though, but then he is an actor. The High Speed Rail is going forward though, despite his efforts to stifle it.
I do admire him for one thing though, he stands up and even butts heads with gwbuh and darth cheney. -- »www.gorail.org See MAJOR freight&passenger action@ the Galesburg, IL RailCam! »205.245.189.161:1100/ My soon to be employer,as an Asst.Conductor- »www.amtrak.com »www.modocrailroadacademy.com -Grad,Class of 2-07,woohoo! | |
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| Re: They Bought Him? said by RR Conductor :You can have him, please take him! I am VERY disgusted with his underfunding of our high speed rail... blah blah blah You mean one of the most money losing operations in all of CA? Oh yeah... that!
Your "RR" bias is a little too obvious & blatant and YOU ARE lobbyist in this case. You complain about him not funding something with the worst success rate for transportation in CA and you are paid by that very operation?
Gee... no conflict of interest there  -- Mom was right.... I NEED fiber! | |
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| said by Backspace :Wonder why the telcos who own Schwarzenegger let him sign this law about teen drivers!  Won't this law cost the telcos? You somehow think that not having cell phones in cars will discourage teen cell phone use? LOL. Nearly every single one of them has their own line as such, even before they get driving. I highly doubt having teens STFU while driving will get them irate enough to can using phones entirely. | |
|  |   StickToTheFacts
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| The strange thing is that the cell phone companies haven't been very vocal on these bans anywhere... Perhaps it is because they realize that having a live customer is much better than have a dead or paralyzed customer who can't use their phone service. Of course they might also see the bans as an opportunity to make more money selling Bluetooth hands free devices. | |
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join:2004-03-19 Covington, LA | Re: They Bought Him? They make their money from sales, overusage, and accesories. These laws only hinder use. It doesn't affect sales and it helps the sale of accesories. | |
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@cox.net | Re: They Bought Him? The sale of accessories falls under the category of "sales", along with the sales of phone handsets, services, support services, etc. Sales are sales, regardless of what they are (handsets, accessories, etc). | |
|  tmc8080
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| screw Kalifornia!! I say screw 'em.. Kalifornia deserves crappy, overpriced, underfunded, industry lagging, qwest speeds with a U-Verse branding, exploding battery installing, Cable TV information service suing, POS company...
You get all you deserve and MORE... | |
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|  |   hopeflicker They all belong in the trash Premium join:2003-04-03 Long Beach, CA | jealous much? | |
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| I say screw 'em.. Kalifornia deserves crappy, overpriced, underfunded, industry lagging, qwest speeds with a U-Verse branding, exploding battery installing, Cable TV information service suing, POS company...
You get all you deserve and MORE...
Typical East Coast attitude. Moron. | |
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| Re: screw Kalifornia!! said by Gravy_Dave :Typical East Coast attitude. Moron. Pay the HIGHEST gasoline prices in the country much? Pay the HIGHEST electricity prices in the country much? Have a corrupt governor who is one of the very few to be "RECALLED" lately? Have probably one of the HIGHEST illegal immigration problems in the country for decades? Hasn't Kalifornia's telco fiber deployment been by-in-large SABOTAGED for the past DECADE+...?
Broadband is the least of Kalfornia's dysfunctional problems. When you can't stand REALITY, what do you do? Put a MOVIE STAR in office, good show. | |
|  |  |  |   hopeflicker They all belong in the trash Premium join:2003-04-03 Long Beach, CA
| Re: screw Kalifornia!! Before you go spewing off with diarrhea mouth, you better get your facts straight.
Pay the HIGHEST gasoline prices in the country much? WRONG - »www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleu···age.html
Pay the HIGHEST electricity prices in the country much? WRONG AGAIN!!! »www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricit···6_b.html
Have a corrupt governor who is one of the very few to be "RECALLED" lately? - So that is YOUR opinion. Then again, arent all politicians corrupt? U know they are.
Have probably one of the HIGHEST illegal immigration problems in the country for decades? You know, could be right here. But why would they want to come to "Kalifornia"? perhaps opportunity is better here 
Hasn't Kalifornia's telco fiber deployment been by-in-large SABOTAGED for the past DECADE+. _ NEED proof of this claim.
diarrhea much? -- People pray to God because they're told to. | |
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| Re: screw Kalifornia!! said by hopeflicker :Before you go spewing off with diarrhea mouth, you better get your facts straight. Pay the HIGHEST gasoline prices in the country much? WRONG - » www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleu···age.htmlPay the HIGHEST electricity prices in the country much? WRONG AGAIN!!! » www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricit···6_b.htmlHave a corrupt governor who is one of the very few to be "RECALLED" lately? - So that is YOUR opinion. Then again, arent all politicians corrupt? U know they are. Have probably one of the HIGHEST illegal immigration problems in the country for decades? You know, could be right here. But why would they want to come to "Kalifornia"? perhaps opportunity is better here  Hasn't Kalifornia's telco fiber deployment been by-in-large SABOTAGED for the past DECADE+. _ NEED proof of this claim. diarrhea much? While you want try and gloat out links, here are a few: Power: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California···y_crisis Gas: »www.eia.doe.gov/bookshelf/brochu···erM.html Recall: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Davis
As for Kalifornia being the land of opportunity.. well, unfortunately for all the wrong reasons. Wholesale selling out the public in favor of large corporations can (and almost did) bankrupt the state as compared with NY. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you for the likes of telco or cable co. for that matter to give customers anything NEAR proper broadband access-- the potential to screw the state's #1 public interest "HOLLYWOOD" just ain't having it..
If the internet were responsible for screwing Wall Street moguls out of tons of money, they'd shut it down here too. But unfortunately NY knows (unfortunately the hard way) not to put that many eggs in one basket for it's economy. | |
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join:2006-06-12 Bedford, VA | Schwarzenegger should dub some news channel or eduacation channel.. i can see it now.. "get into the chopper"!! on PBS kids
or for halo 3.. "get into the Pelican!!"
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