 | | Easy solution to that Buy your own TiVo or other DVR at retail. CableCARD will allow you to access cable content.
If you get a product from the cable company, expect it to come with restrictions. That's why you can buy your own device now. | |
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join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | Re: Easy solution to that I wonder how long before these clowns will try to "fix" those who purchased their own TiVO boxes? | |
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| | | | Re: Easy solution to that said by Transmaster:I wonder how long before these clowns will try to "fix" those who purchased their own TiVO boxes?
That doesn't seem plausible since Netflix is one of the selling points of the retail devices.
I believe that the leased devices have an interface to the cable company's VOD service, and NCTA has expressed its opposition to having netflix and on demand on the same box. | |
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| | | | Re: Easy solution to that My Panasonic does fine also, just about to cancel my DVR service.
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| | | | Re: Easy solution to that Cable co s are scared that's all it is. | |
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| | | | | Re: Easy solution to that Whats to be scared about? Internet video will lead to two possible scenarios? A) Internet ONLY service costing $1-$5 less than a triple play, or B) CAPS that make all these internet video services basically useless. | |
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| | | and give up VOD and you then also need the add on SDV tuner for SDV systems. | |
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| Better solution to that: Stop giving the cable company your money.
Repeat after me: There is nothing on cable television that you can't live without. There is nothing on cable television that you can't live without.
I cut the cord eight years ago. Went five years without TV service of any kind before I invested in a OTA converter. Now I get the networks and a few extra channels for free.
Everybody here whines about the business practices of their local cable monopoly but the vast majority of people here continue to do business with them. Why is that? Cable is not a life essential service in the same category as electricity, running water or telecommunications. It's a luxury item. You can live without it. | |
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| |  SnakeoilIgnore Button. The coward's feature.Premium
join:2000-08-05
Mentor, OH
kudos:1
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| Re: Easy solution to that I agree. Though getting people to do so is like getting blood from a rock. I tried telling my wife for about 1 grand we can get a decent OTA antenna, to capture the network shows.
Then for programming from USA, TNT, TBS, Sy-FY, and CW. We can go online and nabb it from their web sites. Or use/pay Hulu [though I think Hulu redirects to the above web sites.
Then use Netflix to fill in the blanks. As the only sports we may miss out on is Norte Dame Football [big deal, well my wife is a grad.so it is a big deal, lol.]
She said it sounds like to much effort vs the sat. with DVR. I reminded her that we pay just about a grand a year for sat. service and that if we did it the way I purposed, we'd be saving the money long term.
Still no dice.
One reason no dice is because she'd have to watch TV on her lap top [15" screen] vs her TV which has a 20" screen. She doesn't realise she could go with a Flat panel TV wit a VGA input and still have the savings of cable cutting.
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join:2003-05-26
USA/MidWest
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Re: Easy solution to that LOL, This resembles me, is it not strange that most of the people paying the bill, are not in the drivers seat on what happens! I have a house full that won't give up cable TV, but stream Netflix.
Solution: After trying to convince the 'other inhabitants' that cable TV is not reasonable for us any longer, I spent some time actually watching TV with them and when a show got around to having an AD, I would give the time the AD took and how much show time occurred. In fact it gets so bad, I sometimes FORGOT what I was watching. But then it finally happened last week, they all watch HD only, but this also occurred on the analog side...Comcast killed National Geo AND the Science channel. Well, that was the two primary watched of SEVEN channels for $65+ a month.
Finally, I now have consensus to kill cable. But will probably stick with $11.00(?) a month basic non HD to keep the internet side, I can handle losing $11.00 rather than throwing away $65+ for a ridiculously small number of channels that are now further reduced to FIVE.
With streaming on Demand I don't see a need for devices such as DVR. I have an Argy Linux box [Terabyte drive/USB/RJ45] and a PS3 and watch what I want, when I want and none of that is cable TV generated. | |
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| | | | Let me guess. You're not married, right?
HGTV and Food Network are pretty much the only reasons I have cable TV. | |
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| | |  bionicRodFunkier than a mohair disco ball.Premium
join:2009-07-06
united state
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| Re: Easy solution to that My fiance is the only reason I have tv. Especially around the holidays. She is an intelligent, lovely girl that loves to rot her brain with fa-la-la-la-lifetime marathons every December. I personally don't watch anything on tv that couldn't be got elsewhere for much cheaper. | |
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| | | | | If your marriage can't survive without cable television there's something wrong. | |
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join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA Reviews:
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| Re: Easy solution to that said by Crookshanks:If your marriage can't survive without cable television there's something wrong.
Uh, good luck with that. Of course there is something wrong, but we already have a majority of single-parent families in this country and the destruction that generally follows absentee fatherhood. A $60 cable bill that dulls the pain of a bad marriage for 18+ years is infinitely cheaper than separate quarters, child support, alimony, and two latchkey kids ending up as wards of the state. If allows a marriage to "survive", I'm all for it.
By the time your average dolt/doltess wakes up and realizes the mistake they made, its often too late - joint parental responsibility must take precedence over personal happiness. | |
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| Re: Easy solution to that Maybe if your hypothetical couple spent as much time talking to each other as they spend watching the boob tube they wouldn't be in such dire straights to begin with.
I'm not sure how keeping a broken marriage alive is better for the kids anyway. Absentee fathers are a whole another issue. | |
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join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA Reviews:
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| Re: Easy solution to that said by Crookshanks:Maybe if your hypothetical couple spent as much time talking to each other as they spend watching the boob tube they wouldn't be in such dire straights to begin with.
I'm not sure how keeping a broken marriage alive is better for the kids anyway.
I absolutely agree.
But few are raised to be committed to not only their partner, but the marriage as well - and they have no idea how to talk to each other. And if they did, they probably wouldn't be married [to each other] in the first place, having discovered their real incompatibilities.
Introduce modern temptation and liberation, and most every marriage can be called "broken", as few try to mend it. I say, "Too bad, Grow up!". Kids need resident, not weekend fathers, even if they're imperfect, and Mom and Dad have to tough it out for another 14 years or so. | |
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join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | said by Crookshanks:If your marriage can't survive without cable television there's something wrong.
Last I heard a good marriage can't survive without some compromise. Unless you're really poor, a $60 to $100 a month cable bill is a relatively small compromise and a lot cheaper than divorce. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: Easy solution to that I think some people are getting way ahead of themselves here. Outr marriage is just fine. The point was that I'm not the only occupant of the house and my wife likes to watch HGTV and food network. And yes we do talk, quite alot in fact. But these days she's home with the kids and let's face it - I'd rather have her watching HGTV and food network rather than judge judy and divorce court all day. | |
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join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
kudos:4 | "Repeat after me: There is nothing on cable television that you can't live without. There is nothing on cable television that you can't live without."
I guess you are not a sports fan.
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join:2000-10-05
Beaverton, OR | Agreed. I'm heading that way currently.
I just went OTA for local stations and I'm quitting cable TV and going to internet streaming content for considerably less money. | |
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join:2003-03-18
Brewster, WA
·Frontier Communi..
| said by fifty nine:Buy your own TiVo or other DVR at retail. CableCARD will allow you to access cable content.
If you get a product from the cable company, expect it to come with restrictions. That's why you can buy your own device now.
That method is working out great for anyone who bought a googletv device and can't browse certain areas of the internet with a web browser because the software exists on certain BigCo branded hardware.
These crooks would kill over the air television if they could get away with it.
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| | KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Easy solution to that said by firephoto:said by fifty nine:Buy your own TiVo or other DVR at retail. CableCARD will allow you to access cable content.
If you get a product from the cable company, expect it to come with restrictions. That's why you can buy your own device now.
That method is working out great for anyone who bought a googletv device and can't browse certain areas of the internet with a web browser because the software exists on certain BigCo branded hardware. These crooks would kill over the air television if they could get away with it. I am sure they will soon enough in the next big spectrum sale that in no way ever benefits the people of the US. just like selling off the Analog TV spectrum, I somehow doubt we will ever directly see any benefit to that. the FCC gets a shitload of money and maybe something happens in the next 20 years.
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| | | | said by firephoto:That method is working out great for anyone who bought a googletv device and can't browse certain areas of the internet with a web browser because the software exists on certain BigCo branded hardware. I don't see a problem with that. Copyright owners give you a license to use content in a certain way. I have a general purpose computer attached to one of my TVs and I watch hulu just fine.
These crooks would kill over the air television if they could get away with it.
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join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | said by firephoto:These crooks would kill over the air television if they could get away with it.
Haven't you heard the FCC wants to grab prime UHF TV spectrum that is necessary for the survival of free TV by 2015 and auction it off to AT&T Mobility and Verizon Wireless. Worst of all they want the government to keep most of the auction money rather than using it for a second OTA digital transition that would use MPEG 4 or better compression and free up more spectrum legitimately. | |
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join:2003-06-27
Lakewood, OH | So what? I don't really see an issue with this. Who would really expect to get Netflix or Hulu on a cable company DVR? Seriously.
That would be like someone complaining that they didn't get access to iOS apps on a Windows 7 phone. | |
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|  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
join:2002-03-03
USA
kudos:4 | Re: So what? said by schweb:I don't really see an issue with this. Who would really expect to get Netflix or Hulu on a cable company DVR? Seriously.
That would be like someone complaining that they didn't get access to iOS apps on a Windows 7 phone.
Those who think that all cable and telco TV & internet providers should be public utilities limited to making a gov't mandated 1% profit margin with prices set by the FCC. | |
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join:2003-06-27
Lakewood, OH Reviews:
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| Re: So what? Um, there's a huge difference between Internet provider and television content provider.
They shouldn't be able to chose how you use your Internet, but they darn well have a right to choose whether they offer a direct competitor to their tv content on their own devices that are built to deliver that content.
Your public utility argument is not valid here. | |
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| | | | | Re: So what? Except that nobody is blocking these services from your home. They are simply blocking them from being viewed on their equipment which is leased to you. | |
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | it should be noted that its content owners blocking this. the cable companies would not themselves block this because if you have their STB DVR it likely means you already get one of their higher TV packages. and considering most VOD content consumed in a week is likely the free stuff, than odds are they would have no incentive to prevent netflix or hulu. especially since their PPV VOD currently gets movies before Netflix.
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|  tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3
·Comcast
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Both services are available for TV viewing on assorted TV's, game consoles and other consumer boxes.
Both services are also designed for Streaming content and are not intended to be recorded at the consumer end (this is/has changed with allowing "tv anywhere" copies on laptops and other playback devices) | |
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| lunacy! It's utter lunacy how the cable companies are whining about "cord cutters", people using Netflix instead of their own on-demand video, and so on.
Don't the cable companies realize they're still being PAID for the internet connection? It doesn't matter whether you watch on demand, hulu,netflix, etc... the connection is still being paid for!
I wish these shenanigans would stop. They're benefiting no one in the long run. | |
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| | | Re: lunacy! The argument about being paid for an internet connection is not valid.
Cable companies want to be paid for reselling content, not for being dumb pipes. | |
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| | they deserve it Hulu deserves to be blocked by everybody. Hulu blocked google tv so hulu deserves to be blocked by the cable operators. | |
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| | Why is everyone complaining about the Cable companys? It is NOT the cable co's blocking Netflix, it is the greedy movie production companys!
It's a shame people believe they need to see a new movie as soon as it hits theaters. I have not been to a movie theater in over 15 years. Too expensive, and they are all released on DVD within 3 months now anyway.
$8.00 per person to see a movie in the theater, or rent the movie for $3.99 in 3 months and your WHOLE family can watch it for $3.99.
If we all stopped going to the theaters, the greedy movie companys would quickly understand that WE have the power....until they figure out how to charge $8.00 for a rental. | |
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| | | Re: Why is everyone complaining about the Cable companys? said by johnnycruzr :It is NOT the cable co's blocking Netflix, it is the greedy movie production companys!
Seriously?
What do you think those low- and getting lower- cable caps are all about? Because the cable company doesn't want to compete with Netflix.... | |
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| | | | Re: Why is everyone complaining about the Cable companys? What cable caps are you talking about?
I have had both Cablevision and Fios for my cable TV provider, and have never been threatened with a cap. | |
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| | | | | Re: Why is everyone complaining about the Cable companys? said by EricGT :What cable caps are you talking about?
I have had both Cablevision and Fios for my cable TV provider, and have never been threatened with a cap.
Well, aren't you a lucky fella... I would kill for FIOS. Ain't never gonna happen in this backwater though...
I pay nearly $60 a month for my 15/2 cable connection, and my monthly cap is now 50 GB's a month, having been reduced from 80 gigs.
Just because you don't have caps doesn't mean the rest of us are so fortunate.
And no, I *can't* go with another provider- there aren't any other providers where I live. | |
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| | It's hardly surprising that the cablecos/telcos don't want to enable their competition (even if their competition is, in a sense, themselves--presuming they also provide Internet access). Pitiful, perhaps, but completely expected. | |
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join:2002-02-04
Broadway, NC
·Windstream
| Unintended consequences indeed... This is what you get when you allow the service providers to also be the content providers:
1. Anti-competitive behavior
2. Fewer choices
3. lower quality services
4. Higher prices
And contrary to the propaganda; doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result is neither sane nor productive...
JMHO
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stevenPremium
join:2004-05-12
united state | Unclear about leased CableCard Although I have purchased TiVo units, CableCards must be leased from ones cable provider as are mine.
Comcast provides me two mCards per device. Do third party providers, i.e. Netflix and Hulu, recognize my TiVo DVRs as leased or owned for content blocking?
I own my DOCSIS 3.0 cable to ethernet device, if I were to instead lease that device, would I risk content being filtered to my Roku Players, Playon servers, Playon Devices, or my other various internet content enabled devices?
My thanks to anyone who can help answer my questions.
A special thank you to Karl Bode for enlightening those of us who may be behind a cable ISP "Iron Curtain". | |
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| | Why do people even BOTHER with cable DVR's any more? Seriously, there are so many better devices out there. Tivo, with home networking, can stash shows on your PC for future viewing (I typically save one or two shows to watch during the summer), Moxi can handle 3 tuners with multi-room boxes going cheap. ALL of this is done without needing to pay the cable company for their box, AND you get less hassle.
Seriously, WHY use cable DVR any more? | |
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| | | Re: Why do people even BOTHER with cable DVR's any more? CableTV Branded Tivo Box limitations are not much fun either. | |
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| | | | Re: Why do people even BOTHER with cable DVR's any more? said by longgone:CableTV Branded Tivo Box limitations are not much fun either.
So get a real Tivo box, no limitations  | |
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