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Hulu Scraps Sale Plans
Wanted Higher Bid Price And Post-Sale Licensing Hike
by Karl Bode Friday 14-Oct-2011 tags: competition · business · bandwidth · cable · consumers
As many had expected, Hulu owners at News Corporation, Providence Equity Partners, and Walt Disney have decided to scrap their sale of the platform. "Since Hulu holds a unique and compelling strategic value to each of its owners, we have terminated the sale process and look forward to working together to continue mapping out its path to even greater success," says a blog post. "Our focus now rests solely on ensuring that our efforts as owners contribute in a meaningful way to the exciting future that lies ahead for Hulu."

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Owners had wanted more than $2 billion for the platform, but weren't willing to ensure that the one thing that makes Hulu valuable -- programming agreements with major networks -- would remain intact. Google had been rumored to have bid up to $4 billion, but wanted these agreements to remain in place for a longer period of time.

As we've discussed many times, Hulu hasn't been particularly disruptive to the traditional cable ecosystem because the company's owners, most of them in broadcasting and cable, didn't want it to be.

In this case they wanted their cake and eat it too. They wanted to get paid a bundle for Hulu up front with the ability to then immediately jack up licensing costs, and they wanted to ensure Hulu would never be a serious video threat.

As a result Hulu will continue down the same path it's on -- which is essentially a glorified and only marginally-interesting advertisement for traditional cable television.

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Ytsejamer1

join:2008-01-18
Somersworth, NH

Seems okay to me..........

My wife occasionally has been complaining since we cut the cord...while we don't miss the bill, she certainly misses some of the tv shows. For $8/mo, she gets to watch all her awful shows without commercials. From what I've seen, it works pretty well...and she's happy. A fair tradeoff to me...
Chuck_IV

join:2003-11-18
New Milford, CT

Re: Seems okay to me..........

said by Ytsejamer1:

My wife occasionally has been complaining since we cut the cord...while we don't miss the bill, she certainly misses some of the tv shows. For $8/mo, she gets to watch all her awful shows without commercials. From what I've seen, it works pretty well...and she's happy. A fair tradeoff to me...

Hulu certainly does have commercials. They are becoming a bigger problem as of late too. They used to be short, now they are getting longer and more frequent.

battleop

join:2005-09-28
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Re: Seems okay to me..........

Commercials would not be quite so bad if it wasn't the same damn commercial over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over....

Ytsejamer1

join:2008-01-18
Somersworth, NH
maybe it's my blocker in Firefox or whatever, but she see's two 30 second "breaks" with a blackscreen indicating there SHOULD be a commercial playing. She doesn't mind because she gets up or goes back to fiddling with her iPad.
innoman
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I feel like there are more commercials on Hulu than normal TV. Once I opted to "watch" a 3 minute add to avoid any further interruptions... It played and the show started, only to fail about 5 seconds in... I had to refresh and, of course, watch the normal commercials after all.

They make it so hard not to pirate shows. :-/
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY

delusionary

content companies are having delusions about how much money consumers are willing to pay for content.. aside from sports... not that much..

jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI

Have It For Now, But...

We subscribed to Hulu Plus, thinking it would allow us to not have to replace the DVD recorder when it eventually croaks. (They don't seem to live very long--at least not if you actually, you know, use them.) But we're exceedingly disappointed in the content availability. I mainly kept it as long as I did because I enjoy The Daily Show and because it was the only affordable streaming available for our Vizio VTAB tablets. But that latter situation no longer obtains, and I watch The Daily Show only sporadically, so HP is almost certainly going to go.

We can afford the $8/mo. And the limited commercial interruptions are tolerable, even tho we're paying for the service, but, given the lack of content we seek, there's just no sense in continuing to pay even the meager $8/mo.

Jim

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"Since Hulu holds a unique and compelling strategic value t

....each of it's owners, why were they trying SO hard to sell it?

Because they though they could collect the next 5 years all at once!
I don't doubt it's POTENTIAL to be worth that in cash and " compelling strategic value " to the current ownership over the next 5 years, but to a third party?
ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

Re: "Since Hulu holds a unique and compelling strategic val

Not only did they want all the cash for the next five years right now, but they also wanted to eliminate any risk of losing money. That way, whoever buys (or would have bought) Hulu would have had to try to make money off of it. All the programmers would need to do is collect their ever-increasing license fees. If those fees strangled Hulu to death, well, the new owner would have had to take the loss for that. The programmers would have already cashed out, so they'd have gotten their money. They'd just look for another company willing to license the shows previously on Hulu.

And it would have worked, except no one was willing to pay the asking price. And why should they? If you don't get long-term licensing deals for that $2 billion price, what are you getting? Infrastructure? Give me half of that, and I can build you one hell of a distribution center, along with some insanely fast Internet connections and a lot of advertising. If these clowns wouldn't accept $4 billion from Google, with guaranteed long-term programming deals as a condition, can you imagine how much they planned to charge the sucker who bought the service? It would have been an astronomical amount.

NO to ESPN

@sbcglobal.net

Maybe Hulu and Netflix Should Merge

Marriage between two unwanted and overpriced companies? Makes sense to me.

BUCKEYECOM

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Re: Maybe Hulu and Netflix Should Merge

NEVER WILL HAPPEN.

FBGuy
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amazon prime instant videos

just bit the bullet and subscribed to amazon prime.

I'm fairly happy with the video library on that site also.
tcope
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Hulu - Direction

I really can't see Hulu completing if as they shift more and more content to a pay service. That is misleading as they are also making money off non-paying customers in the form of commercials. There is just too much competition already out there (i.e. Netflix). While Hulu has content backing, I see their service failing more and more if they keep shifting more content to Hulu+.

Personally, I really don't care about more commercials. I don't watch them anyway... just like I don't pay them any mind on my TV. Heck, commercial time for me is usually "email time".
firedrakes

join:2009-01-29
Arcadia, FL

Re: Hulu - Direction

simple this their greedy bastards and get away with it. till some one stops them

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Re: Hulu - Direction

No one will stop them. In the long run capitalism will stop itself. You are seeing the death throes as the worlds richest struggles to ignore the fact that they are going to have to let go of their cherished high-horses thanks to efficiency.

Hulu will be junk within the next 6-12 months as they shift their stuff to the new xfinity platform style.

Like I said in the past R.I.P. Hulu. I guess it's back to eztv.it for programming.

BBC still has a few good programmes and you can watch their entire collection of a particular series without ANY special accounts from anywhere thanks to the Tor network. Though its odd seeing foreign commercials from time to time.

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innoman
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Re: Hulu - Direction

So TOR is sufficient for watching BBC content? I have tried a couple VPN's and just decided to get it through other methods because the show would keep freezing (using Boxee) anytime I watched anything between like 5-11PM. (Obviously because of congestion).

I wonder if it is possible to use Tor with Boxee Box-- research time.

Yeah, I'd be lost without TVT (unfortunately, I do not have any invites-- they are promised out months before they even re-spawn.)

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Re: Hulu - Direction

Sure is.

I must ask. Of which TVT do you refer?

As for Boxee, I've only heard of it. If it has a regional block then it would probably serve to bypass that, notwithstanding bandwidth limitations of your ISP. You can also set it up with a free VPN service as well.

It's one of the few things that the powers will be have had a tough time blocking and has probably assisted MANY reporters report on human rights violations in the last few years.

Configuration is quite simple. A bit of Proxy Switchy here, some torrc file editing there, and viola.
innoman
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Re: Hulu - Direction

TVTorrents. It would probably take a little work.

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Re: Hulu - Direction

Generally I steer clear of torrents these days unless a game updater uses p2p for it's patching. I've already seen people get fapped or penalized and even disconnected for updating their fave games for being "unfair users".

If I do torrent I use BitThief (custom) version (the one that doesn't phone home), and only when I should be able to watch programming free on TV but it isn't up for some dumb reason.

As for TVTorrents, I cannot comment. I've not used them or even heard of it. Good luck though.
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innoman
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Re: Hulu - Direction

I steer clear for everything except TV shows pretty much, no movies or music.

TVTorrents.com is a REALLY good site, it's invite only and they have a ration system so people have to upload. Most shows are available on the site minutes after they air and download in minutes as well. I typically have a 720p version of most any show about 20 minutes after it's off the air with no commercials.

I still use peer block (not that it's a failsafe) just to hopefully reduce any chances of any trouble. I have TWC 30/5, they don't seem to have any restrictions with it yet. I also limit my upload pretty well just to avoid transferring insane amounts.

I would use other methods more if they were reasonable. I do have a netflix and hulu subscription and I use them when possible... but you can't use hulu on Boxee and too many of these providers are being too restrictive. I've paid so much for cable over the years that I barely used...

ctceo
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Re: Hulu - Direction

That's their major flaw. UPLOAD.

The industry is targeting sources primarily and that means ALL uploaders get considered. They have custom software that scans the network and harvests IP's. They then mass mail ISP's. The ISP's then consider whether it is part of their contract to share your information with them (Comcast/Time Warner/etc.) Or not (MaBell). In the case of MaBell they are likely only going to share information upon field warrant or DHS request (no warrant required).

I don't bother with PeerBlock anymore, as one notice I did receive was while using it.

The safest methods that exist currently are Direct Downloads, DVD decryptor. The former not being a complete failsafe anymore as the status-quo has secretly bought/created a few so called "private and anonymous" hosting services which of course are tracked and logged. Not good.

Netflix is a waste IMO, no good movies and a nerfed platform since they had to pull sony movies as per contract technicality. Hulu can suck it. If I purposely see that something has been made "H+" I'll jump over to my trusted DD site and find the latest. By restrictive they mean to say monopolistic.

In all I understand your frustration with capitalism and it's problems which will ultimately WILL lead to it's downfall. Take for example the 175 people arrested in Chicago for exercising their constitutional right to peacefully assemble during the "occupy" movement. Good thing there were some 1875+ left to show their support.
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Hulu Direction.... nowhere fast.

They have no-one that knows what they are doing there.

When I upgraded my cable modem to a docsis 3.0 modem,
Hulu says I'm from "out of the country" now.
Tried emailing the issue several times...
Never a response.

Hey Comcastic, Tell someone from the NBC side of the house
that IP addresses from 71.238.x.x are from your own network
because they are too dumb to read their support email.

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