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'Hulu Plus' may open testing for 10k users next week
by Karl Bode Friday 25-Jun-2010 tags: Video · business · alternatives · content
Rumors have been circulating for some time that Hulu is planning a $9.95 subscription service -- with a select few episodes still available for free -- but a catalog of additional seasons available for a monthly fee. Those rumors continue to bubble over, with some anonymous sources insisting that the subscription "Hulu Plus" could launch as soon as next week -- though possibly only for a limited base of 10,000 testers. As you can imagine, stumbling blocks remain in Hulu's negotiations with broadcasters, who cling tightly to program licensing out of fear of the broadband video (r)evolution. The service is also expected to see integration with the Xbox 360 -- but rumors also now point to PS3 integration as well.

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BF69
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Just to clarify

before all the haters start posting. With shows still on the air Hulu has never offered more than the 5 current episodes. So the ability to get an entire season and past seasons is a plus in my book. Also content providers that would never put anything on Hulu before will now do so because they'll get a cut of this $10 fee. So MORE content is also a plus. If you don't think $10 is worth it then stick with free Hulu which will be the same as it has been.
glinc

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Re: Just to clarify

Don't see why someone would pick hulu over netflix then.
thedragonmas

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Re: Just to clarify

said by glinc:

Don't see why someone would pick hulu over netflix then.
+1 ive got a few old tv series under my belt thanks to netflix, and i didnt have to pay an "additional $9.95" to hulu to do it. so if hulu does this, i see no insentive what so ever over netflix which i all ready have.

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Re: Just to clarify

said by thedragonmas:

+1 ive got a few old tv series under my belt thanks to netflix, and i didnt have to pay an "additional $9.95" to hulu to do it.
You don't pay for a subscription to Netflix?
thedragonmas

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Re: Just to clarify

said by Thaler:

said by thedragonmas:

+1 ive got a few old tv series under my belt thanks to netflix, and i didnt have to pay an "additional $9.95" to hulu to do it.
You don't pay for a subscription to Netflix?
in other words, yes, i pay for netflix, no i will not pay an ADDITIONAL fee to hulu to do the exact same thing i can do on netflix. sure i have to wait a bit longer. but thats fine by me.

cbrigante2
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said by glinc:

Don't see why someone would pick hulu over netflix then.
I like both services, but Hulu has it's charms over Netflix when it comes to current season viewing. Netflix...you have to wait for the dvd to come out (after the season is over).
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Re: Just to clarify

said by cbrigante2:

I like both services, but Hulu has it's charms over Netflix when it comes to current season viewing. Netflix...you have to wait for the dvd to come out (after the season is over).
My TV supports Netflix as a yahoo widget, there is no support for Hulu. Seagate just released a new media player, it supports Netflix, youtube, and others, but not Hulu.

Maybe with a subscription model, Hulu will start to be more aggressive at getting it's content out on various media playing devices. Today even if I wanted Hulu on my IP boxes, it isn't supported.

The next question is how many $10 per month services do we need? Will any of them start to offer live streams or DVR like streams of basic cable / satellite? Currently I watch Fox News, Fox Business, some MSNBC, FSTV, CNN, and some New York stations. For $10 a month, something like Netflix that also let me watch any local basic cable station I'd record on my DVR would work.

The problem I have with Netflix, Hulu, and just about everything else offered via IP is there is no basic cable programming, and no method of storing a live stream from a basic cable channel into a DVR-like format. Until that happens, I can't replace my satellite and DVR's.
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BF69
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Re: Just to clarify

said by pandora:

The problem I have with Netflix, Hulu, and just about everything else offered via IP is there is no basic cable programming, and no method of storing a live stream from a basic cable channel into a DVR-like format. Until that happens, I can't replace my satellite and DVR's.
You can always install an antenna.
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said by BF69:

You can always install an antenna.
I wish. The area I'm in has very poor over the air TV signal. I've tried expensive antennas a long time ago, and the result was not very good.

If I lived closer to a major city, then maybe. When I visit - »www.antennaweb.org/aw/Address.aspx I'm told my zip code requires a large directional antenna. In my direct experience this is true. Unfortunately I'm between large urban areas and there are 3 directions for a large antenna to point and get poor signal. With multiple sets, the only solution to the directional issue would be 3 large sets. However, my experience with a large antenna (that was mounted on a rotor) was that weather changed signal enough to require movement of the antenna. We'd have to be manually adjusting 3 rotating large antennas shared by 4 sets.

Sorry, that isn't a l viable solution.
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said by cbrigante2:

said by glinc:

Don't see why someone would pick hulu over netflix then.
I like both services, but Hulu has it's charms over Netflix when it comes to current season viewing. Netflix...you have to wait for the dvd to come out (after the season is over).
Depends on what you watch. Shows like Heroes and Legend Of The Seeker added new episodes weekly. My nieces watch the Disney shows Sonny With A Chance, Sweet Life On Deck and Wizards Of Waverly Place. They add new weekly episodes of these shows and they're all in HD.
If Hulu continues to have adds and doesn't offer an extensive catalog of HD content, I see no reason to even bother with the subscription.
Netflix has grown by leaps and bounds over the last year and I'm more than content with it. I honestly can't find time to watch most of what I've added to my Instant Watch queue since I subscribed a little over a year ago. Their deal with Stars also means you get some more recent movies the same time they debut on the Stars Channel. The added bonus of 1 dvd at a time by mail is nice too.
Who knows, maybe hulu will surprise me and give me a reason to subscribe. I can always use more movies/tv shows that I can't find time to watch but just have to add to my queue.
I'm an addict...

r81984
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Torrents are still the free DVR.

BF69
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Re: Just to clarify

said by r81984:

Torrents are still the free DVR.
Most people would like LEGAL and easy options. One day one of your torrents turns out to be a virus that screws up your PC. Then come back here tell us how great they are. Torrents? Yeah ok. Welcome to 2006.
tdouglas22

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Re: Just to clarify

That's cool. Most who use torrents also know how to download the safe ones. Besides, we also know how to back up our data in just such an emergency. But thanks for the kind words....lol
GameGuy369

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No viruses here. Ever.

That said, I would gladly pay for a legal way of getting my stuff, but the entire entertainment industry seems to be stuck in providing less quality at a stupid price. Give me HD streaming including quality audio so my 7.1 system can get some real use and I am all aboard.
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Re: Just to clarify

sadly for that most people in the US don't have the internet speeds to handle this. While I agree any new streaming service should support HQ 720P streams, with 5.1 Audio. I waiting when I can get rid of my U-Verse TV in favor of a small al la-cart service.

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said by BF69:

One day one of your torrents turns out to be a virus that screws up your PC.
If yon't run random mislabeled executables you find, and don't install random codecs, I'd find it pretty hard to get infected. Unless somehow something can turn a video feed file into an executable as you run it through your media player, I don't know how one picks up virii from P2P downloads.

Personally, without any format of digital video that's worth paying-to-own, nor a definitive way to convert the DVD/Blu-rays you own to non-borked file formats, P2P's the only way I see to manage a digital media collection.

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said by BF69:

said by r81984:

Torrents are still the free DVR.
Most people would like LEGAL and easy options. One day one of your torrents turns out to be a virus that screws up your PC. Then come back here tell us how great they are. Torrents? Yeah ok. Welcome to 2006.
Only someone like you would download a virus.
2006??? wow, have fun with your itunes from 2001.
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said by BF69:

...[some] content providers that would never put anything on Hulu before will now do so because they'll get a cut of this $10 fee.
Agreed. I think structurally Hulu needs to do it. A tipping issue, not mentioned here, is whether a pay model gets rid of the ads. I think uptake will be low if both must be suffered.

From a living space, minimalist stuff, technical PoV, I'm the kind of guy Hulu could snag if they do it right. Increasingly people seek only 1-3 programs and would dump conventional cable (and the conventional hardware to display it) if a seamless TVcontent-to-PC delivery option for their shows existed. For now convergence remains a technical, hardware purchase, living space commitment that many won't adopt.

I'd buy the odd, one-off show (specials, docus) but not a subscription as I've little interest in US-TV content. Not sure that's representative of many people though. Someday we'll be able to buy foreign TV content but until then it's p2p or nothing.

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Roku?

Where is the deal with the Roku video device? I MIGHT be on board with this if Roku had it.
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"More" comprehensive isn't going to cover it.

Totally comprehensive will be what it takes to get people signed up. Put up all the past episodes plus new episodes the day after they air, in HD when available, and then they may have something worth buying...may.
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Re: "More" comprehensive isn't going to cover it.

said by Z80A:

Totally comprehensive will be what it takes
Bah. Where families are concerned I agree with you. But many people stuck in a 150 channels for 2-3 shows conundrum would live a hybrid of Hulu for a current series, DVD for whole-series of older TV content and movies. The whenever, where ever on any device flexibility of DVDs trumps time-of-release for almost everyone I know. They don't own the DVDs and would prefer ubiquitous USB flash storage but that's another topic.
tiyuri

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Hulu *is* the content providers!

I am sick of reading things like "As you can imagine, stumbling blocks remain in Hulu's negotiations with broadcasters". Hulu is the broadcasters!

It would be like Comcast complaining that Comcast SportsNet-Philly cost too much money.

Hulu is not some small time entity sticking up for the people against the big bad networks.

The reason that more episodes are not available for free and not available on mobile devices is because Hulu doesn't want them to be. Period.

Van
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If put on XBox, would this mean that

Gold members get it for free?
vengance01

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Re: If put on XBox, would this mean that

no, its like the current netflixs method. You need gold to get access, but then you still pay Hulu 10$ a month

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