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| said by Z80A:You mean they're suing one of the 8 people who actually saw that movie? How do they know who "down loaded" it? Unless they hosted it themselves for distribution, I'm not sure they can catch the D/L'ers, just the hosters. | |
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kudos:4 |  Alternatives to piracy?? Pray tell, what are they?
energy put into these kinds of campaigns still seems better used developing inexpensive, non-DRM'd alternatives to piracy. I am sure the content industry would be more than willing to listen to alternatives. But they have to be alternatives that allow them to cover the costs( and make a little profit) of producing the content.
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No DRM, less expensive product, no ridiculous licensing restrictions designed to prop up dying business models, stop treating your customers like idiots and/or criminals, embrace broadband delivery and stop trying to prop up dying DVD sales, etc., etc., etc.
The list is eight miles long. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: Alternatives to piracy?? Pray tell, what are they? said by Karl Bode:No DRM, less inexpensive product, no ridiculous licensing restrictions designed to prop up dying business models, stop treating your customers like idiots and/or criminals, embrace broadband delivery and stop trying to prop up dying DVD sales, etc., etc., etc. The list is eight miles long. And which of those allow them to continue making a profit when if the above suggestions were implemented, no one would pay for their product.
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| Re: Alternatives to piracy?? Pray tell, what are they? said by Romney2012:And which of those allow them to continue making a profit when if the above suggestions were implemented, no one would pay for their product. Amazon MP3 downloads. Apparently, following those suggestions actually allows a company to turn a product. Who knew? | |
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| | | | | | Re: Alternatives to piracy?? Pray tell, what are they? said by Thaler:said by Romney2012:And which of those allow them to continue making a profit when if the above suggestions were implemented, no one would pay for their product. Amazon MP3 downloads. Apparently, following those suggestions actually allows a company to turn a product. Who knew? I believe it was NIN who put their latest album for download. Their model was you can pay whatever you want - and they actually made more of a profit than selling hard copies; even free.
Think about that for a second, and you will see that the industry wants to save their monolith ways in order to make a quick buck. I mean, it does make sense - everyone has a CD player, everyone has a DVD player...but not all digital media is created equally. | |
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| said by Romney2012:said by Karl Bode:No DRM, less inexpensive product, no ridiculous licensing restrictions designed to prop up dying business models, stop treating your customers like idiots and/or criminals, embrace broadband delivery and stop trying to prop up dying DVD sales And which of those allow them to continue making a profit when if the above suggestions were implemented, no one would pay for their product. All of the above have been proven to allow Hollywood to make a profit.
How do we know this? Most of Hollywood's History existed with...
1. No DRM,
2. a less inexpensive product to view in theaters then now
3. no ridiculous licensing restrictions
4 not treating your customers like idiots and/or criminals,
5 not trying to prop up dying DVD sales
This one..
- embrace broadband delivery -
would allow HWood to increase their profits.
I choose not to believe the lie that the lawsuits are to primarily protect reasonable profit margins.
Many people desire a different choice about that lie.
This is (and has always been) about controlling what the consumer experiences and how they experience it.
It's why the studios sued CleanFilms, CleanFlicks and Play It Clean Videos out of existence.
These companies received a DVD from an owner. They edited out non-relevant, inappropriate material. They then sent back an edited movie back along with an unusable original.
It increased DVD movie sales because it opened up a huge market; by converting hundreds of movies into appropriate material for families.
Hollywood Studios lost NOTHING on the enterprise...
...except control.
That is the root of the obsession driven lawsuits.
When Hollywood stops endlessly repeating the same bald faced lies; I'll consider any point they care to make.
Say what you will about downloaders. Even if you are right, they are still ethically superior people to Studio Executives.
Where do you think animosity should be invested first?
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| | | | | | Re: Alternatives to piracy?? Pray tell, what are they? said by Noah Vail:How do we know this? Most of Hollywood's History existed with... 1. No DRM, There was in fact DRM for home copies for almost 30 years now. It was called Macrovision, which made its debut in 1984 to prevent unauthorized copying of movies or at least make casual copying difficult.
For most people there was also no internet, no broadband and no means to play downloaded movies on computers at decent quality until within the last 10 years or so give or take, which is actually relatively recently.
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Maybe, maybe not. Amazon or cable ondemand rental for $3 a movie might bring in profits but $9.99 unlimited netflix streaming may not. | |
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| Re: Alternatives to piracy?? Pray tell, what are they? said by fifty nine:said by Noah Vail:How do we know this? Most of Hollywood's History existed with... 1. No DRM, There was in fact DRM for home copies for almost 30 years now. It was called Macrovision, which made its debut in 1984 to prevent unauthorized copying of movies or at least make casual copying difficult.[ For the 50+ years prior to the creation of MacroVision, the Film Industry made considerable profit on their movies. MV was an effort to control our Entertainment Experience that followed their failed attempt to do so, in Sony VS UCS.
said by fifty nine:For most people there was also no internet, no broadband and no means to play downloaded movies on computers at decent quality until within the last 10 years or so give or take, which is actually relatively recently. Pick any point you want on the Film Studio Timeline. There aren't any periods where Big Entertainment was operating at a sustained loss due to Nefarious Consumer Activities.
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- embrace broadband delivery -
would allow HWood to increase their profits.
Maybe, maybe not. Amazon or cable ondemand rental for $3 a movie might bring in profits but $9.99 unlimited netflix streaming may not. I suppose a World Wide Plague or Nuclear Holocaust might impact a Film Studio's Internet Venture profitability. In that, a "maybe not" is technically possible.
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It's not unlike the argument from illegal aliens, if we don't like your immigration rules, we'll just ignore them... | |
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| | | | said by Karl Bode:No DRM, less inexpensive product, no ridiculous licensing restrictions designed to prop up dying business models, stop treating your customers like idiots and/or criminals, embrace broadband delivery and stop trying to prop up dying DVD sales, etc., etc., etc. The list is eight miles long. Let's address these -
No DRM. Why? If you can view the content legally on the device of your choice with DRM, why should it matter?
Less inexpensive product. I think you mean less expensive product? I see blu-ray discs selling for $15 and $10, sometimes less. DVDs are cheaper. Rentals are cheap too. How much less expensive do you want it to be?
Treating your customers like idiots/criminals - I own hundreds of DVDs and dozens of BDs and a few HD DVDs. I never felt like I was treated like a criminal.
Embrace broadband delivery - as soon as I can get a broadband delivered movie that is the same quality as a blu-ray disc, sure. As for dying DVD sales? Sure, DVD sales went down in 2009, but box office revenue actually gained. Blu-ray Disc sales actually increased in 2009. | |
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| Re: Alternatives to piracy?? Pray tell, what are they? said by fifty nine:No DRM. Why? If you can view the content legally on the device of your choice with DRM, why should it matter? I can prove your statement is entirely bunk from an example I run into every day.
Say I buy a DVD set. I want to watch this content off my netbook as I fly across the country. Tell me how one would legally do this without bypassing DRM.
I would love someone to tell me why I can buy DRM-free MP3s online, but movies only come in a format that may or may not lock me out of my own media in a year. | |
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»forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-pcs-la···ook.html
I would love someone to tell me why I can buy DRM-free MP3s online, but movies only come in a format that may or may not lock me out of my own media in a year.
Because you aren't buying a creative work. You are buying a license to use it in a specific manner, which is described in the license that you voluntarily agreed to when you made the purchase.
If you don't like the license terms, don't agree to the license by not buying the movie. Yes, it is that simple. | |
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| Re: Alternatives to piracy?? Pray tell, what are they? Digital copies have license terms, and may or may not work in time. Most come with expiration dates to when your content will cease to be available.
said by fifty nine:If you don't like the license terms, don't agree to the license by not buying the movie. Yes, it is that simple. So, if I like a creative work, and I want to support it with my purchase, I should just have to "deal" with the limitations of the distribution media it came on?
Yeah...this sounds akin to the squeals the entertainment industry made when the VCR came out and time shifting was established. I'll just stick to buying my DVDs and downloading the DVD rips so I can use the media in a format of my choice.
Why can't digital media be released in a format that's as easy to use as a VCR/DVD/BlueRay? Drop the media in and play. Having to subject your customers to expiration dates, remembering authentication codes, compatability, etc...it's not exactly simple.
Here's a better question. Why is it digital music can be sold online in DRM-free MP3s, yet digital movies come with tons of DRM-imposed limitations? | |
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they are pretty stupid about alternatives and appear to be hell bent on making sure no alternative models work. they continually lie about the impact file sharing has on the industry and they have years of RIAA stupidity to learn from, yet they refuse to learn.
movies are setting box office records this year and the industry as a whole is having a record year - tell me again how file sharing is destroying their business. | |
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FSCK off! YOU are not a law origination and neither is the ISP. Deal with it!!!. I say screw the media. I am a person and I have Rights! Businesses don't have a right to profit. They either succeed or die. Fix you business model. Do the legal avenue with your business model, post it and then I might agree with you. But, you're not doing this so piss the fsck off.
QUIT PERVERTING THE AMERICAN JUSTICE SYSTEM YOU GREEDY BASTARDS.
This is nothing but a money grab.
I'm not very religious but still... For the LOVE of money is the ROOT of all evil.
And you are already there.
Chuck
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| said by avantare:FSCK off! YOU are not a law origination and neither is the ISP. Deal with it!!!. They appear to be following the law exactly as it was intended. They aren't getting the IP addresses and going to the ISPs immediately. They are filing an actual lawsuit. As part of that lawsuit, they can then legally subpoena the ISP. They aren't acting as a law organization nor are they asking the ISP to be one either. It is just a request for information that the ISP likely keeps anyways and the subpoena is the proper legal method to obtain that record.
I am a person and I have Rights! And which right of yours is being violated? Due process? That is exactly what this is about. Privacy? It's hardly sensitive information and you broadcast it to every website you visit.
Businesses don't have a right to profit. They either succeed or die. Businesses may not be guaranteed to make a profit, but they have a right to try to profit. Would you criticize Best Buy for going after a shoplifter who walks into the store and takes something they didn't pay for? Or how about someone who sneakes into a movie theater and doesn't pay for a ticket? If the business fails because they don't have a quality product or service, then it fails. If it fails because people break the law, then there is a legitimate issue.
Fix you business model. Do the legal avenue with your business model, post it and then I might agree with you. Their business model may need to be updated for technology. But just because they have an outdated business model doesn't mean that their copyrights are invalid. The basic laws that they are using to go after people have been around for years. This isn't going after people who broke some encryption scheme and are trying to copy media under fair use. These are people who either uploaded or downloaded without authorization.
This is nothing but a money grab. Really? You think? How long did it take to come up with that insightful realization? Very few civil lawsuits aren't about money in some way or form.
I'm not very religious but still... For the LOVE of money is the ROOT of all evil.
And you are already there. Do you work for a living? Apparently you're evil too.
Chuck
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Nah. Even if that was the case, cheapskates will still steal it if they are able to. There are millions of "users" who justify their dubious moral compass with rationalizations like "I hate the MPAAA, the price is too high, it's too inconvenient to buy the legal product, yada, yada, yada" when the real reason is that they want something for nothing. That ain't gonna change until more of them are made to feel pain. Just like cable signal piracy was rampant in the 1980's, until the cable industry started prosecuting. | |
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if not, how are they different
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No studio in their right mind would still be doing the "sue-them-all" way of thinking, here in 2010.
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»www.ahlanlive.com/19614-the-hurt···-lawsuit
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| | | Re: And yet... So let me get this straight.. If my neighbor rents the DVD, watches it, and then brings the DVD over to my house and lets me watch it, we are breaking the law???
That is exactly what we did with this movie, and let me tell you after watching it I think everyone that paid money to see it should demand a refund.
I think what the Hollywood types think is that everyone who downloads a movie would of normally paid instead to watch it. That is just crap. If I want to watch a movie I pay to go see it in the theatre. If I don't care about a movie, I let my neighbor rent it, borrow it from him and return it to the movie store for his trouble. | |
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So let me get this straight.. If my neighbor rents the DVD, watches it, and then brings the DVD over to my house and lets me watch it, we are breaking the law??? No, but if you make a second copy and keep it, then you are.
Or in the cases cited in the lawsuits, he were to make it available on the internet for free, worldwide distribution to a few billion people, then he'd be breaking the law, big time. | |
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This is a movie that had zero distribution or advertising when it came out. It's one of the many films that popped up on the internet which I had never heard of. The truth is that the "buzz" and awards this movie gained were a direct result of it being seen by so called "pirates" who then told other people it was actually a decent film. (Not my opinion but obviously enough felt that way w/ lack of competition to garner the award).
The industry doesn't want to embrace change because it makes what they do no longer necessary. Who needs to hand a big studio 50 percent of your income when you can reach just as many customers via bittorrent and free online venues? Remember how hard they fought Apple on iTunes?
NIN makes more than they ever did while under contract and they release their albums for free or you can pay for higher quality versions including license free master mix material.
They go on tour, make millions and then sell all the tour gear on eBay. NIN wouldn't sign a contract with a major studio now if you put guns to their heads.... | |
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| | | Re: Hollywood eats it's own to survive... said by macspeed:How ironic... This is a movie that had zero distribution or advertising when it came out. It's one of the many films that popped up on the internet which I had never heard of. The truth is that the "buzz" and awards this movie gained were a direct result of it being seen by so called "pirates" who then told other people it was actually a decent film. (Not my opinion but obviously enough felt that way w/ lack of competition to garner the award). The industry doesn't want to embrace change because it makes what they do no longer necessary. Who needs to hand a big studio 50 percent of your income when you can reach just as many customers via bittorrent and free online venues? Remember how hard they fought Apple on iTunes? NIN makes more than they ever did while under contract and they release their albums for free or you can pay for higher quality versions including license free master mix material. They go on tour, make millions and then sell all the tour gear on eBay. NIN wouldn't sign a contract with a major studio now if you put guns to their heads.... I actually heard a very interesting interview on Howard Stern (GASP!) with the makers of the Saw franchise. They tried to sell the original movie to a big movie studio (Universal I think) and they were offered a very small amount and refused. They actually produced the movie on their own dime (with some investors) and the entire Saw franchise is approaching something over 500million in PROFIT. They made a point in the interview to make a mockery of the big studios and the lies about how they cannot make a profit anymore. It was quite an interesting interview. They viewed the online theft of their movie as completely inconsequential. Admittadly no one likes to be stolen from, but it was such a minute percentage of their audience that they just carried on with business as usual.
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kudos:1 | Re: Hollywood eats it's own to survive... And that's for a crappy flick. Imagine if they actually made something good!
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make it a hangable offense to take use download anyhting inside 14 years
and watch how badly your still going to do as the crap you have created in the past 14 years just sits on shelves
this is why they want longer terms
cause back before the law suits you could argue more it was about art.
do you think the 60's films and tv would enjoy being used in lawsuits?
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and all the access to p2p and i still havent dled this movie
boy that begs this statement
p2p is about marketing , if you can't give something away, how yo going to make people pay for it stupid?
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How many innocent subscribers will be caught in the dragnet?
I do not feel it is moral to view movies without paying the copyright owners, on the other hand it is time for the Innocence project to get involved with defending the innocent against fraudulent lawsuits by Voltage Pictures. Why call it sue-o-matic when it should be called shakedown-o-matic. Voltage pictures may have had a dead battery when they filmed Hurt Locker. Copyright owners have proved that the best excuse, if their music or movie does not sell is to blame piracy. Sue-o-matic appears to be taking lessons from organized crime, the originators of the shakedown and the extortion racket. Unless the ISP's get the IP address right, an innocent customer will find themselves guilty until they prove themselves innocent.
