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1 edit | A Boon to domain registrars? (and lawyers) If you read the bottom of the BBC article, this is still a suggested direction without any technical ability to actually get done.
It would mean that with possibly thousands of top level .whateveryouwant, companies will never be able to buy every domain name possibility. I see many law suits. | |
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 | | | Re: A Boon to domain registrars? (and lawyers) I'd imagine whoever pays 500k to start a new domain will also going to have first dibs on sites. | |
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|  Camelot OnePremium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Greenwood, IN
kudos:1 | And in addition to that, think of the new phishing possibillities. This shit is going to be a lot harder to spot. And oddly enough, it's those very people who can afford to dump $100k (of someone else's money) to get the name they want/need for the next operation.
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join:2006-10-19
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kudos:1 | Lol Move all porn sites to .porn so we can block them easier. | |
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|  Lark3poPremium
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Madison, AL
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| Re: Lol said by DrModem:Move all porn sites to .porn so we can block find them easier. There! fixed it for you.  | |
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zipjay
join:2003-03-11
South Williamson, KY | i think its a bad idea now domains are going to be harder to remember rather than easier.. but think of the possibilities its going to be funny.. luckily not everybody will be doing this sense its 100k and up | |
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
kudos:1 | Re: i think its a bad idea I can imagine being friends with you if you have $100k just lying around for your own TLD. | |
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| | Hmmmmmmmm ICANN--opening up even more opportunities for online fraud. Personally, I think they've opened up an unmanageable can of worms. I do agree that there will be lawsuits with respect to domains with intellectual property connotations. And I wouldn't hold my breath expecting porn sites to voluntarily choose domains connoting sex--they know that it will be too easy to filter those names.
I don't like censorship, but maybe it's time for a national filter to be put in place if this plan is going to be implemented, I see the net becoming even more lawless with this anything goes plan--I'd like to fire everyone at ICANN for agreeing to this stupidity.. | |
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|  LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5
1 edit |  Non-Roman alphabet domain names side effect
said by voipdabbler:ICANN--opening up even more opportunities for online fraud. Personally, I think they've opened up an unmanageable can of worms. I do agree that there will be lawsuits with respect to domains with intellectual property connotations. And I wouldn't hold my breath expecting porn sites to voluntarily choose domains connoting sex--they know that it will be too easy to filter those names. Also part of this decision is the use of non-Roman alphabet characters in domain suffixes. This is very democratic, but it will inevitably lead to a segmentation of the monolithic internet in to regions and languages. Aside from the censorship by China with their "Great Firewall" and in some other countries with national firewalls as well, this decision will actually foster the breakdown of international access to the internet as a whole.
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| |  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | Re: Non-Roman alphabet domain names side effect said by Linklist:said by voipdabbler:ICANN--opening up even more opportunities for online fraud. Personally, I think they've opened up an unmanageable can of worms. I do agree that there will be lawsuits with respect to domains with intellectual property connotations. And I wouldn't hold my breath expecting porn sites to voluntarily choose domains connoting sex--they know that it will be too easy to filter those names. Also part of this decision is the use of non-Roman alphabet characters in domain suffixes. This is very democratic, but it will inevitably lead to a segmentation of the monolithic internet in to regions and languages. Aside from the censorship by China with their "Great Firewall" and in some other countries with national firewalls as well, this decision will actually foster the breakdown of international access to the internet as a whole. You are correct. China could purchase the {insert Chinese character} domain, and then limit all internal (ie. people in China) users to just that domain. They will then be able to very tightly control what people are doing, as their "firewall" would simply prohibit traffic going to any other domain.
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| | |  DataDocMy avatar looks like me, if I was 2D.Premium
join:2000-05-14
Greenville, NC
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| Re: Non-Roman alphabet domain names side effect said by wifi4milez:China could purchase the {insert Chinese character} domain, and then limit all internal (ie. people in China) users to just that domain. They will then be able to very tightly control what people are doing, as their "firewall" would simply prohibit traffic going to any other domain. Can't this simply be done with IPs now? | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
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2 edits | said by wifi4milez:You are correct. China could purchase the {insert Chinese character} domain, and then limit all internal (ie. people in China) users to just that domain. They will then be able to very tightly control what people are doing, as their "firewall" would simply prohibit traffic going to any other domain. Yep, if you don't know the language and don't have a properly configured computer, its impossible to access those domains now. Think of the possibilities if you mix cyrillic сhаrасtеrѕ wіth lаtіn сhаrасtеrѕ. | |
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| | Lame idea Very, very lame idea... Most users have a hard enough time keep track of .com, .net and .gov that this will just make things even more painful.
For example, I don't know how many times people I've supported over the years have been caught off guard by www.whitehouse.com as opposed to www.whitehouse.gov.
Perhaps ICANN needs to grow some balls and start cracking down on domain squatters who register every word under the sun and slap up a crap search page that redirects you to male enhancement pills, etc. with every search.
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| | | Re: Lame idea They are trying by implementing a small fee so you can't register domains for the trial period for free. | |
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| vannyxPremium
join:2003-07-07
Bronx, NY | So we just have to register www.whitehouse.actual and setup a redirect to the bluepill. | |
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 tuarisYou Clicked on the Apple
join:2001-10-19
Naples, FL | The fee should be higher $100,000 to $500,000 isn't high enough. This is BAD and will only help build up the number of fakes and scum bags out their.
This was a very BAD idea.
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| | tuarisYou Clicked on the Apple
join:2001-10-19
Naples, FL | Re: The fee should be higher Imagine the mess if 'anyone' can get a tld. | |
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| | | | | Re: The fee should be higher i agree so much. many more people would farm thousands of domain names with the hopes one may be worth something. i think the price is reasonable. | |
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| | | | | What "mess"? Domain squatting becomes very very uneconomical. With unlimited TLD's the internet moves back to open access. Before the government turned the management over to ICANN the plan had been that ICANN would approve hundreds to thousands of new TLD's to eliminate the problem of squatting. They didn't go forward with the plan because of how much money they make from squatting.
The only rational thing is for there to be unlimited TLD's. I shouldn't have to type coke.com or coke.net or coke.org, I should simply be able to type coke to go to the coke website. The same is true of thousands of other TLDs. A free internet requires unlimited TLDs. The artificial segregation the government tried with .com,.net and .org simply doesn't work in a worldwide internet with multiple languages and alphabets. | |
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join:2005-02-24
Chicago, IL | Re: The fee should be higher Get Firefox, bookmark the coke site and make the keyword for it 'coke' and it will do exactly what you say.
In all seriousness though, even with this going through, typing 'coke' still won't work. You'd have to type something.coke for it to work. | |
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| | | | That's right and I want to drive a Lamborgini but I can't afford it, they should provide it to me too!
This world of getting things based on a monetary system is getting out of control, I tell you! Soon we are going to have cats living with dogs and snowballs will be able to survive in hell. | |
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | Re: The fee should be higher said by Skippy25:This world of getting things based on a monetary system is getting out of control, I tell you! Soon we are going to have cats living with dogs and snowballs will be able to survive in hell. Already there!
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| | |  r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
join:2001-11-14
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| said by Skippy25:That's right and I want to drive a Lamborgini but I can't afford it, they should provide it to me too! This world of getting things based on a monetary system is getting out of control, I tell you! Soon we are going to have cats living with dogs and snowballs will be able to survive in hell. Your comparison of a domain name to a lamborgini is retarted. You have to be joking right?
There is no reason that a fully custom domain and a standard.com should have different costs.
It is all just text in a database.
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join:2004-01-24
Walkerton, IN | Re: The fee should be higher .. and a car is just plastic and metal. | |
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has a nice ring to it.. | |
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maartenaElmoPremium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
kudos:1 | Not sure I like this.... I actually like the idea of more TLD's, and have always been in favor of .xxx or .sex or something along those lines, but I don't think it should be a "free for all" for businesses to come up with a nice sounding TLD, and then see if you can get a return of your investment of your 100k. (plus the obvious money for DNS servers in a datacenter somwhere, etc)
They should have added a few "general" ones and perhaps a few TLD's focussed on certain industries.... but not declare open season to TLD's.
I wonder what is going to be happening to my company.lan domain that I have used for a (rather large) company's INTERNAL ONLY network when someone decides that would be a fun TLD to have!
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| | | Re: Not sure I like this.... Very good point, but I would imagine you have your own dns servers and can set it up to not resolve .lan as an outside tld. But then that means ISPs could also do the same thing and treat anything outside .com,.net,.org, etc. as an invalid domain. And in essence that means people paying 500k are getting zero guarantees that anyone will let that domain resolve on their own dns servers.
Does anyone know if is possible to block valid tlds or would that be against ICANNS rules? What if an ISP decided to do it? | |
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|  BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by maartena:I actually like the idea of more TLD's, and have always been in favor of .xxx or .sex or something along those lines, So basically you're for forcing all porn sites in the interent ghetto? these sites are supposed to give up their .coms? .xxx solves NOTHING if your hope is to keep kids away form porn. Hell you just made it easier. How about parents be the parent and not the government? There's plenty of filters out there now. | |
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| | maartenaElmoPremium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
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1 edit | Re: Not sure I like this.... said by BF69:said by maartena:I actually like the idea of more TLD's, and have always been in favor of .xxx or .sex or something along those lines, So basically you're for forcing all porn sites in the interent ghetto? these sites are supposed to give up their .coms? Please explain to me where exactly did I say sites should be forced to give up their .coms?
.cum would also be a good one. 
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| | |  GlobalMindDomino Dude, POWER Systems GuyPremium
join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL | Re: Not sure I like this.... said by maartena:.cum would also be a good one. Oh man that's funny. LOL | |
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| | Easily abused Sure a company like google can get their .goo domain for all their services. But what about when so called "clean" domains sprout up and eventually some idiot wants to pass a law that says ISPs need to block access to all but the clean domains? In itself new domains are not bad but the same people who pass laws under the guise of child porn, easily are already planning their utopian censored internet. And since they are going to earn 500k for doing nothing, icann isn't going to say no to anyone. | |
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| | | Re: Easily abused Google doesn't become .goo, it becomes .google, there isn't a character limit. Want coke's website type coke into your browser and it finds the .coke TLD and website. Want Google type google, want microsoft type microsoft. With unlimited TLD's you don't have to remember .com, .net or .org or any of the other .tld extensions as businesses can register their own TLD with their trademark. | |
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| | Oh, brother. I could see them creating 2 or 3 new TLD's, but this is ridiculous. Sometimes it's hard enough to remember a company's URL, and now you want to add more confusion? Uh...
Stupid. Lame. Irresponsible.
Why not just phase in a new TLD every year for 10 years? Surely that would take care of whatever demand there is, that is, if there's any demand.
Methinks they're in financial straits if they're proposing something this idiotic. How else would you explain this bird-brained idea? | |
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| | | Re: I want an ascii domain name You could always try ".:-D" For 500k I am sure ICANN will give you an emoticon domain. | |
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| | maartenaElmoPremium
join:2002-05-10
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1 edit | Re: I want an ascii domain name You cannot have a : in a domain name 
Or a . for that matter. | |
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| | | | | Re: I want an ascii domain name Then how about "8-D" as a TLD? | |
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| | | |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | Re: I want an ascii domain name Or worse....
an "8============D" | |
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| | This is a joke The ICANN is doing all they can to make sure I'm either off the internet entirely or just downloading porn then furiously yanking out my router's power cord?
It would be nice to make a family website and host it myself, but what's the use? I don't care to fork over that sum of money. Registrations per year are less than a family dinner at McDonalds for already established top levels. Let's be honest, it's about making ICANN a crapload of money, and the target is those who have the money to throw at it.
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join:2002-07-22
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kudos:2 | Meh I've always said, we should just do away with TLDs all together, and let people make up what they want.
Everyone who has 1/2 a brain knows the best ones are .com and then .net and .org I've noticed .tv is also getting popular for idiots who advertise on TV.
I wouldn't mind being in charge of a whole TDL, lets pick .stfu
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join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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1 edit | Wow PETA is going to go broke trying to sew up all of the domain names that can use PETA. After all they don't want the nasty the other PETA People Eating
Tasty Animals horning in....
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join:2000-11-15
Tampa, FL
kudos:5 | This is all a fad This whole internet thingy is just a fad. In a few years, people won't even remember wasting there time surfing the web. | |
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join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL | The New Bling... Forget the Ferrari, the Tiffany diamonds, the private media room in your $50mil estate.
Pony up the cash to have your own TLD. Yea baby. Sweet.
Seriously, I guess I am somewhat bearish on this "boom" considering the cost. I mean I won't have a .mort TLD any time soon at that cost.
But sure you could see .ibm or .msft or whatever.
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| maartenaElmoPremium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
kudos:1 | Re: The New Bling... Wait for it....let the branding begin!
drink.pepsi
intel.inside
citi.bank
visit.nyc
power.mac
chargers.nfl
ducks.nhl
angels.mlb
Those are just a few organizations that easily have 500k lying around, plus another 100k for some servers to get a hold of such a domain - and control it.
And I wouldn't be surprised that big sites like ebay or google buy their own domains.
maps.google
mail.google
computers.ebay
dvd.ebay
Or....
buy.dell
watch.nbc
mobile.att
ship.ups
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join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | Re: The New Bling... you know it doesnt seem that bad the way you put it
i mean whats the point of domains to start with
isnt to to make it easyer for us no computers to remeber the address of a site ?
in that respect it makes sense | |
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| | Well, I guess there IS a silver lining Hopefully this will mean even cheaper domains, due to the lack of competition for a bunch of TLDs.
On a side note: anyone want to start a fund for the .isafaggot TLD? We all know it's going to be one of the first registered,... | |
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| | How many is not enough? Hmm, so much for my wants of some three letter tld's. Of course, "thisisa.decimal" might be funny too.
Theres one thing I haven't seen mentioned and thats IPv6. What with the rather long number of potential website addresses, opening up the TLD restricted list makes sense when you realize that we'd run out of .com/org/net/gov/etcetc long before we fully tapped IPv6's potential. | |
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