ISOHunt.com's ISP Pulls The Plug Site claims MPAA, RIAA responsible... Tipped by MrBentor 
Dozens of users have written in to inform us that ISOHunt, one of the Internet's largest BitTorrent trackers, has been taken offline by its ISP. This alert was posted to their website late yesterday: Update, Jan. 16, 2007
Lawyers from our primary ISP decided to pull our plug without any advance notice, as of 14:45 PST. No doubt related to our lawsuit brought by the MPAA, but we don't have more information at this time until people responsible comes to work tomorrow. We will be back in operation once we sort out this mess with our ISP, or we get new hardware ready from our new ISP.
Sit back and enjoy the rest of the internet in the mean time, while it last. For your torrent searching needs, try Google for now by searching for "SEARCH TERMS ext:torrent". You can also come hang around our IRC channel irc://irc.isohunt.com/isoHunt (SSL on port +7000). We'll update on this page and on IRC when we have more information. The MPAA and RIAA began a legal campaign against ISOHunt and other similar sites early last year. Many of the targeted sites immediately folded, but ISOHunt remained open -- and immensely popular. While the folks at ISOHunt claim the - - AA's were responsible for the takedown, there's been no independent confirmation that it wasn't just ISP incompetence or technical difficulty. Update: Looks like they've settled on Cogent as their new provider, and are slowly getting back online.
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kudos:2 | Merger time! Merge with The Pirate Bay... | |
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Alexandria, VA | said by exocet_cm:Merge with The Pirate Bay... Yeah, there's an idea: change from two targets to one.
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kudos:2 | Re: Merger time! said by nixen:said by exocet_cm:Merge with The Pirate Bay... Yeah, there's an idea: change from two targets to one. -tom Yeah, but a target is still a target no matter how you look at it. But one BIG target is harder to take down.
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Alexandria, VA | Re: Merger time! said by exocet_cm:said by nixen:said by exocet_cm:Merge with The Pirate Bay... Yeah, there's an idea: change from two targets to one. -tom Yeah, but a target is still a target no matter how you look at it. But one BIG target is harder to take down. Uh, no, one BIG target isn't harder to take down. It's, in fact, easier to take down a single target. A distributed is far harder to take down (independent of whether or not the distributed targets are owned/controlled by a single entity). The only thing that "one BIG" buys you is better lawyers. In the face of a DMCA takedown, however, all that means is that, someday, you might be able to get yourself back online at the location you were taken down. Not terribly useful.
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3 edits |  Well they are still offline
And a traceroute seems to indicate that Neutral Data Centers Corp is their new ISP.
Edit: corrected info about ISP.
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| | | | Re: Well they are still offline Umm, they'll be back in action soon. It's just a very valuable resource for those that use torrents. The fact that the **AssAss's don't like it, well, that's just an extra bonus!
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| We need to shut google down since the aid and abet my search for torrents. While we're at it, we should shut down every internet site that has a hyperlink to a torrent site or file.
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| Re: Well they are still offline We need to shut down the entire internet for 10 years or so...maybe more..then we won't have these blood sucking pirates anymore. We can go back to being ripped off by the music and movie industry, just like the good ol' days. While we are at it, might as well stop making DVD's since they are way too easy to duplicate, and go back to standard VHS. I also think digital cable should be outlawed, as well as the sale of blank CD's and DVD's. Computers with a processor speed above 100MHz should be banned as well, since they can do too much. MP3 players should be banned and anyone owning one should be thrown in jail for at least 9 months. Apple should be shut down entirely, with the assets going to the music and movie industry. Satellite radio needs to be banned as well. To easy to record that stuff. We need to get back to the traditions...commercial radio and TV. Oh...and video stores must wait at least a year after a movie's release to theaters before renting.
There..that should make them happy. Now i am off to burn my laptop, mp3 player, dvd player etc, since I am such a bad citizen.
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Saint Marys, WV | Re: Well they are still offline Agreed.
The xxIA has way too much legal power and influence, given their original intent.
We should penalize them for all the frivolous lawsuits within the past 2 years.
Maybe they'd think twice about waging a holy war on every server that contains the words "file sharing".
According to google, 99,199,999 to go... | |
| | | | | | said by J E F F:There..that should make them happy. Now i am off to burn my laptop, mp3 player, dvd player etc, since I am such a bad citizen. No that won't make them happy.They are going to want the books too.
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2 edits | Re: Well they are still offline said by madrhino:said by J E F F:There..that should make them happy. Now i am off to burn my laptop, mp3 player, dvd player etc, since I am such a bad citizen. No that won't make them happy.They are going to want the books too. Sc**w them...I wanna keep my books. I got some really cute pictures of Zooey!! They can't have them! I won't let them! AGGH!
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kudos:2 | said by Romney2012:Life is getting tougher for the companies aiding and abetting users determined to obtain copyrighted materials without paying for them. Good!! And a traceroute seems to indicate that Cogent Communications was the ISP involved. Life in the U.S. is getting tougher. All this does is force them to move overseas. | |
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Boston, MA | said by Romney2012:Life is getting tougher for the companies aiding and abetting users determined to obtain copyrighted materials without paying for them. Good!! And a traceroute seems to indicate that Cogent Communications was the ISP involved. I believe the term you're looking for is: cat-and-mouse. Piracy will never end and RIAA will never give up trying to fight it, as long as there's money to be made or money to be saved. | |
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1 edit | said by Romney2012:Life is getting tougher for the companies aiding and abetting users determined to obtain copyrighted materials without paying for them. Good!! Keep on dreamin'.
And a traceroute seems to indicate that Cogent Communications was the ISP involved.
Thanks, good to know which company to avoid when you're making business next time...
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Boston, MA | Re: Well they are still offline Now that's not sensible. The ISP has no choice in such matters. Under the DMCA, they're a common carrier and can't be held liable for what their customers do, but only if they respond to valid takedown requests. I hate MPAA/RIAA, too, but if I ran an ISP I would comply with legal requirements - like them or not. | |
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2 edits | Isohunt is moving to Canada, but is having trouble getting their data from the original ISP.
New data center:
»www.neutraldata.com/
OrgName: Neutral Data Centers Corp.
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Address: 151 Front St Suite 800-C
City: Toronto
StateProv: ON
PostalCode: M5J-2N1
Country: CA
»www.isohunt.com/
Update, Jan. 17 FYI, since this is a common topic, no, moving servers to Sweden or Sealand isn't going to help. I have no intention of hiding our servers. BitTorrent was created for legitimate distribution of large media files, and we stand by that philosophy as a search engine and aggregator. Our current ISP is in the US. Our new ISP is in Canada, where this temporary page is being served. Depending on whether we get our servers back in the US, we will be back in full operation sooner or later. Update, Jan. 17, 2007 15:40 GMT - SecretSquirrel So after screwing around with our gigabit switch for a few hours, I've given up on one particular task and I'm moving on, hopefully we'll have our data back today, because if we do, we should be at least halfway back up by friday. If we don't get our data back from our previous provider, it may take a little longer to come back live again, but we are working on it, so be patient. 
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kudos:4 | Isohunt still offline
Update, Jan. 18
13:26 PST - SecretSquirrel
We've got our data in Canada, we're working on bringing the site back online. Hopefully we'll be done Real Soon Now.
22:02 PST - IH
Had to fight with hardware quirks, like on our shiny Raid array in the new database. It's screaming fast now, just the software remains to be setup across the cluster.
To those that asked, this move is a large upgrade in hardware, bandwidth and re-doing our infrastructure better based on past mistakes. So it's taking longer than just throwing up servers would have. (well, we threw up this server in an hour) Tomorrow is most likely when we will restore all services.
Update, Jan. 21
00:22 PST - IH
Ok, we ran into more snags (mainly with network hardware) than we anticipated, but we are getting real close now. I expect we can restore services by today.
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1 edit | hm No wonder the site did not work last night. I was looking for legit shareware apps. | |
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| Lest you all be confused by the FACTS!! Here they are....
Movie downloads account for a mere SEVEN PERCENT of all video downloads! PORN accounts for over SIXTY PERCENT!
The rest is made up by TV shows (time shifting), ETC. ETC.
Yet.. you don't see a PORN association trying to kill the Internet. Instead the porn industry GIVES IT AWAY, knowing that in the long run it will MAKE THEM MONEY!
Why can't the movie industry realize that the movies they are making SUCK and are WAY too expensive?
I don't go to movies anymore, nor do I download them. Why? because THEY SUCK, that's why!!
With regards to music, EVERYONE KNOWS that the RIAA is simply trying to PEE INTO A HURRICANE without getting their pants wet! They have had OVER TEN YEARS to start their own online music store; they have not. Instead, they cling to an outmoded, obsolete distribution model and sue everyone who tries anything different.
Study after study after study shows that downloaders BUY MORE MUSIC then non downloaders. Yet, the RIAA rewards their BEST customers by SUING THEM!
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Miami, FL | Re: Lest you all be confused by the FACTS!! Moron if they suck so bad then why are people downloading it for free?
It's like saying Kia sucks so bad yet you take the car with you from the dealership.
I might not agree with piracy and I will admit I use to do it but frankly I eventually found alternative and free open source software and as far as content goes I can always find some good music either locally or internationally and since I work as a part time engineer I am able to listen to music without ever having to pay for it because I am the guy recording it.
Sure it might not always be to my taste but frankly I figured what's the point of stealing something that's not worth the effort?
There business model might also be outdated but that's why there are third party companies being the supplier. The music industry should now focus on content.
Of course then there is my other point of view which regards to the RIAA not paying artists so at the same time I kind of support the pirates to make sure the RIAA does goes bankrupt and all artists begin to either create and manage on there own or join indie groups who don't ask such a huge percentage of incoming income.
Music is a hobby, a sport, possibly a way of life and most people forgotten about that and only listen to the money portion of it.
The internet is a huge center for advertising your music and you will get huge amounts of exposure.
All it takes is a geek, some sound engineers, some audio equipment and some kids with talent to make content price it right and go from there.
Everyone gets there fair share without the hassle of DRM and such super high end equipment is not required and once the money for the equipment has all been paid and the business these people created begins to grow while the sound engineers help keep some cash coming in by allowing other local artists to use there equipment for recordings and such.
Of course though nobody has the heart these days to do just things and go against what most people do and that's go to college right after high school.
Life is not a system or some procedure you follow learn to play outside the rules and the most "common" things that are done.
But that's just MHO.
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Staten Island, NY | I don't think the bad content excuse works with movies as it may with music.
If a CD sucks but has one good song, download the song. But a movie that sucks with one good scene.. ?  This doesn't make sense with me, and if you read my other posts I'm usually not on the side of the MPAA. But this is not the kind of excuse I think holds any water.
I don't download music because all current music sucks. I do it because there's NO WAY IN HELL I'm ever hearing artists like Dream Theater or Yngwie Malmsteen on the radio. There's no way without downloading the whole alt.binaries.sounds.ogg group in early 2004 one day on verizon's newsservers that I would have found Alice In Chains' discography.. which I now own on CD, even the ripoff 'nothing safe' CD with one new song on it. Not that it's my place to say, but I think this is why they should stop focusing so much on downloading. Record labels readily admit they can only do good promotion for about 15% of the artists they sign.. and it's not every record label that does good promotion in the first place. The internet lets people like Shadow Gallery be heard.
If I go to my local blockbuster, I won't find the movie dark blue. If I go to several stores in the mall, I won't find the movie dark blue. If I go to the DVD store across the street from my local blockbuster, I won't find dark blue. But guess how long it'll take me to grab it off of usenet? 30 minutes. Yes, in 1/5th the time it would have taken me to go to all of these stores by bus and find out they did not have my movie, I could already have the DVD.
Conveinence is a big part of it.
I understand that I could have called said stores, but this was just to show a point.
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| Re: Lest you all be confused by the FACTS!! Nice job of summing it up Thasp. The content distribution industry has been milking both the end users and content creators for years. They have controlled and limited content availability based on market popularity at the expense of the artists. They restrict fair use and limit content the choice of the consumer. But the internet has changed the rules for distribution. As soon as someone can work out a business model that:
1) takes advantage of the cheap distribution costs provided by the internet,
2) pays the content providers,
3) provides the search and review capabilities that allow users to find content matching their own tastes,
the distribution companies as we know them will become irrelevant. The fight to take down torrent sites is a desperate attempt to keep a sinking ship afloat.
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| | Two Wrongs? There needs to be a new system that deals with this stuff. We need to axe the MPAA and RIAA. They clearly have waaaay too much power than they were intended to have. I mean c'mon, if they did force the ISP to take it down, what's next? This is pretty scary, at least to me. If you guys really don't like the RIAA or MPAA, you simply have to stop buying their products. Support independent labels and artists. The only way to get at these crooks is to get 'em where it hurts, and that's their pockets. Even if it means pirating more of their music =P | |
| | | | But But when you do this, they turn around and claim the reason their sales are down is because of downloads!
These cartels are completely in denial about the truth, which is: THEIR PRODUCTS SUCK!! | |
| | | | | Re: But you need not worry about that; as long as we do our part and educate people about the truth behind these organizations, the truth will get out there. Heck, I tell my friends all the time to stop buying music and movies that are distributed by these guys. The truth is the truth, and what are these cartels gonna do when the s*** hits the fan?
I think most members of this community agree that the tactics these guys use are just disgusting. You may or may not agree about the whole piracy issue, but the way these guys handle it? suing the elderly, children, single mothers? Where is the honor in that? We need to do something before this gets out of hand (I think it already has: referring to MPAA/RIAA efforts with boy scouts of america). If we want change to happen, it has to start with us educating the people about what's going on. We need to speak with our dollars as well. | |
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1 edit | Update from the site..... Right from the front temporary page....
"Update, Jan. 17
FYI, since this is a common topic, no, moving servers to Sweden or Sealand isn't going to help. I have no intention of hiding our servers. BitTorrent was created for legitimate distribution of large media files, and we stand by that philosophy as a search engine and aggregator. Our current ISP is in the US. Our new ISP is in Canada, where this temporary page is being served. Depending on whether we get our servers back in the US, we will be back in full operation sooner or later.
Update, Jan. 17, 2007 15:40 GMT - SecretSquirrel
So after screwing around with our gigabit switch for a few hours, I've given up on one particular task and I'm moving on, hopefully we'll have our data back today, because if we do, we should be at least halfway back up by friday. If we don't get our data back from our previous provider, it may take a little longer to come back live again, but we are working on it, so be patient. " | |
| | | What are they doing illegal? ISOHunt.com does not host any of the files. As I stated in a Pirate Bay thread they are just indexing files. The torrent engines don't host the files they just index them just like newzbin.com does. Someone find a law that says indexing information is illegal.
Oh wait don't do that cause then someone would have to sue the libraries for indexing the books they have. Or just sue sites for indexing the files they have available.
While were at suing and shutting down sites why not kill download.com they have an engine that indexes all of the files that can be downloaded.
Again the torrent search engines are just file indexing. Now show me a law that says that is illegal. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: What are they doing illegal? said by XknightHawkX:ISOHunt.com does not host any of the files. As I stated in a Pirate Bay thread they are just indexing files. The torrent engines don't host the files they just index them just like newzbin.com does. Someone find a law that says indexing information is illegal. Several Supreme Court rulings have ruled that it is illegal, depending on intent. And companies founded to index copyrighted material were found illegal, even when they didn't host the data themselves. Do a search on Grokster sometime. In the meantime, here is a layman's discussion on the issue:
»www.internetnews.com/bus-news/ar···/3515776
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1 edit | said by Romney2012:Several Supreme Court rulings have ruled that it is illegal, depending on intent. And companies founded to index copyrighted material were found illegal, even when they didn't host the data themselves. Do a search on Grokster sometime. In the meantime, here is a layman's discussion on the issue: » www.internetnews.com/bus-news/ar···/3515776 TCH,
I understand you feel it is wrong for people not to pay for a movie or song, and I agree with you. I'm suspect deep down most people here feel it is wrong but have simply accepted within themselves that they are human, and that they have succumbed to temptation. But maybe my suspicion is wrong; I don't know.
But people have often pointed out that many (most?) of these tracker sites are not hosted in the US. I realize you are just answering the "show me a law.." question posed above, but you obviously feel US law is relevant. Do you feel US Supreme Court rulings or American "values" should be enforced on other countries?
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kudos:4 | Re: What are they doing illegal? said by Gogo1:TCH, Do you feel US Supreme Court rulings or American "values" should be enforced on other countries? US laws can't be enforced by US courts overseas. But MOST(not all) countries have signed onto WTO trade agreements that include provisions to enforce copyright laws in a reciprocal manner. So if a movie or song is copyrighted in the US, these countries have agreed to enforce US laws on intellectual property in their countries.
So, in effect, US laws have a "long arm" capability as a practical matter. Failure to enforce copyright laws would be a treaty violation and can result in economic sanctions against the country ignoring the WTO provisions.
That is one reason that the US has blocked Russian entry to the WTO. They won't get in unless they sign on to intellectual property provisions.
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1 edit | Re: What are they doing illegal? Well it is all very nice being part of the WTO and all but doesn't it all fall apart if the US expects countries to do their bit, but ignores the WTO herself when it suits her to "violate international trade law?" This article is dated March 2004: »www.nytimes.com/2004/03/26/techn···USERLAND
but did the US relax online gambling policy according to the WTO ruling? No, just a couple of months ago the Unlawful Internet Gaming Enforcement Act was signed into law.
This bit is interesting, particularly the quote from Rep. Bob Goodlatte:
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But the Bush administration vowed to appeal the decision, and several members of Congress said they would rather have an international trade war or withdraw from future rounds of the World Trade Organization than have American social policy dictated from abroad.
"It's appalling," said Representative Bob Goodlatte, a Virginia Republican. "It cannot be allowed to stand that another nation can impose its values on the U.S. and make it a trade issue."
"It cannot be allowed to stand that another nation can impose its values on the U.S." I think that's pretty disgusting hypocrisy.
It is for this kind of arrogance and double standard that America has become infamous and hated. She is indeed attempting to impose her values on other countries while herself doing as she pleases.
It can't be had both ways. It is no good the US ignoring WTO rulings she doesn't like, yet fully expecting these copyright infringement laws to be upheld. I'm not surprised these sites still exist and keep popping up.
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1 edit | You wouldn't believe it if it was explained to you by your own lawyer. All this stuff is illegal violating the owner's right to profit from their stuff.
A Challenge:
On Pirate Bay, send me one link to a LEGAL file. I've been there so good luck finding any. I wanted to know what it was so I looked. Funny, I found DVDs for download including Superman Returns, X-Men III, etc. I also found pretty much every song iTunes has.
Ask those college kids that owe the RIAA if that search engine they created to search (including links to all their personal music available for download) was smart after accepting $14,000-20,000 in debt to them?
And, to most of you, why not just pay for your porn? Yes, porn was all over Pirate Bay. | |
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West Lafayette, IN | Re: What are they doing illegal? torrents themselves aren't illegal. Running the tracker that a file refers to is in some places.
this one surely hasn't bothered anybody though »thepiratebay.org/tor/3307128/KNO···08-16-EN | |
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Mountain View, CA | Yet another person throwing laws of the U.S. into others. The entire Earth has different laws of which some places this is 100% legal. | |
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also make Google illegal. They too index torrents. It
doesn't become "illegal" until someone actually tries to
download/upload the content that torrent indexes.
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| | Re: ISOHunt.com's ISP Pulls The Plug Does ANYbody know who their original ISP was? I've not seen mention of that in all the stories. Their supposedly switching to Cogent, but their ISP was a US one. Who???????? | |
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| Re: ISOHunt.com's ISP Pulls The Plug said by tomj1226:Does ANYbody know who their original ISP was? I've not seen mention of that in all the stories. Their supposedly switching to Cogent, but their ISP was a US one. Who???????? Their old ISP address was 69.64.61.30 (or at least one of them was). This corresponds to an address belonging to Server4You but that may not be the actual ISP that pulled the plug.
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| | From wikipedia.... »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IsoHunt
" This article documents a current event.
Information may change rapidly as the event progresses.
isoHunt is a popular BitTorrent index, currently down. It also SUCKS because people get kicked for no reason from their chatroom."
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1 edit | Oh no, a tracker is down, what will I do?! Use one of the other 1000000 torrent sites?
I don't use bittorrent - I like usenet, I like getting full speed all the time, and I like not putting up with this kind of silliness. But if I did use bittorrent.. this would be of _no_ harm to me.
Go after a protocol that, after killing one thing, you kill everything. You can sue the uploaders on bittorrent and more will continue using it, you can take down the tracker sites and new ones will come up, you can take down torrent sites and new and/or private ones will come up, or torrents will be shared on a different p2p network. If the MPAA's proven _anything_ thus far, it's that any attempt to thwart their stuff being put and distributed on bittorrent doesn't work.
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Bethlehem, PA | Re: Oh no, a tracker is down, what will I do?! said by thender2:Use one of the other 1000000 torrent sites? Indeed - I'm a very happy member of Demonoid.com
said by thender2:I don't use bittorrent - I like usenet, I like getting full speed all the time, and I like not putting up with this kind of silliness. Yes! I use Giganews as well, but on their lite tier (for now)
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Staten Island, NY | I honestly hadn't ever heard of isohunt before, ever, until now. Now that it's down, it gets publicity.
The MPAA is really fucking up their cause here. If the site comes back up, now I'll have a bittorrent site in mind that I never had in mind before. | |
| | | | said by thender2:Use one of the other 1000000 torrent sites? There's a difference though, and there may be some confusion here.
isoHunt is/was a search engine and not a tracker. Just as Google and LiveSearch are search engines, and not trackers. The only difference is that isoHunt was limited to strictly torrents.
Taking down isoHunt is merely taking away a convenience - no trackers are actually affected and the distribution of both legal and illegal content is not affected. It makes it more difficult to find content, however, which would tend to drive away users searching for legitimate content more than users searching for illegitimate.
As others have pointed out, if the MPAA can take down isoHunt what is to stop them from going after Google and Microsoft? | |
| | | thender2Glamour ProfessionPremium
join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY
1 edit | Re: Oh no, a tracker is down, what will I do?! quote:
As others have pointed out, if the MPAA can take down isoHunt what is to stop them from going after Google and Microsoft?
The fact that google and microsoft can kick their ass?
Microsoft > MPAA 10x. As much as I dislike microsoft, I'd root for them anyday over the MPAA. | |
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| | Sooner or later all Pirate sites will be shut down It's just a matter of time. These folks can run but that doesn't stop them from being extradited for their crimes. The laws ain't going to change to allow Pirates to steal so you might as well get use to the iron bar hotel or change your views on life. | |
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join:2004-06-21
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kudos:2 | Re: a legal link and Pirate bay a user asked for What is Up with your double Posting | |
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| | Isohunt Who is isohunt's isp? All should boycott? | |
| | | All pirate sites will be shut down? Heh, I highly doubt that. That's like saying all criminals will eventually be caught and then there will be no more crime, ever! People have said that before, and the closest anyone ever came to that ideal was Genghis Khan, by killing people (and their entire families) for relatively trivial crimes. Yeah, if they start doing THAT, it'd cut down on pirate sites. But anything short of that? No way.
I suspect that eventually the biggest artists will simply start pre-selling their music. Release an album in 96k mp3, but no higher-quality copies until X copies have been pre-sold at Y dollars apiece. If that doesn't work, they could retry with different values plugged in for X and Y, or sell it to a wealthy patron (as artists used to do in ancient times) as a one-off unique piece of art (highest bidder of course), or just destroy it. He who can destroy a thing has the ultimate power over that thing. (A paraphrase of Paul Atreides from 'Dune'.) Until X and Y are satisfied, there could be no piracy, because the only high quality copy of that particular work exists only in the hands of the artist, and he ain't gonna throw it away for free, sooo...
Ultimately, the world of art may turn back into what it was once before: the wealthy elite of society paying artists, then trading works among themselves, while the common man makes do with whatever the wealthy elite feels like letting them access. How ironic that would be, for the consequences of technological advancement to spin time backwards in this way.
On the plus side, for unknown or lesser-known artists, or for those who simply have little talent, the net is a boon, and does them good. It could be that those are the only artists that the common man will be able to access in the future. But then again, we can all aspire to become the wealthy elite too, and then if you spend $10 million or whatever on the only existing copy of the newest Stephen King novel, you could always then give it away to the masses rather than trade it to another wealthy person. | |
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