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| Re: u think u won the battal If you were a pirate, "you weren't going to buy anyway".
This isn't the sales arm, this is the don't steal arm.
It's like a Nun, the first 6 times she'll whack you with a ruler to try to make you read the "educational" material.
If that doesn't work she'll send you to the priest., someone even good little boys are afraid of  | |
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|  CabalPremium
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Austin, TX | Have you considered a dictionary? | |
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said by battleop:But you will continue to support ISPs that participate? In some cases, you won't have a choice, unless you consider completely disconnecting from the Internet or going back to dial-up as one of the options.
In my case, I can go with either Verizon (either FiOS or DSL) or Cablevision (Optimum Online). AFAIK, both of them have signed up for this "initiative". Surely, you can try wireless, but two of the carriers (Verizon and AT&T) are also on board with this, the rest are either slow or capped/throttled.
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| | | | | Re: u think u won the battal "In some cases, you won't have a choice,"
You always have a choice. It may not be the exact choice but there is a choice.
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| | | | | | Re: u think u won the battal Of course one always has a choice. But in today's ISP environment, that choice is rarely if ever an optimal choice. That's the unfortunate nature of colluding oligopolies who generate extra-legal, anti-consumer policy like this.
Too bad for the consumer. | |
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That being said I have been Boycotting the MAFIAA as we all call them for around 5 - 7 years.I do a variety of measures and refuse to give money to those who want to Censor me.I Censor them back.
Some Comments here will call you and I Pirates but I am not.I choose to buy local Art and INDIE Art.
I do not go to Theaters to see MAFIAA
I do not buy any new products that are MAFIAA
I do go out and see as well as support the local Art Scene.
And I give a little money out to kickstarter stuff.
And I will Buy INDIE Art that I find interesting.
That does not make me a Pirate at all.Why should I care what Hollywood does !!! | |
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kudos:78 | the encryption wars have just begun. Well time to get that VPN business going..... | |
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kudos:1 | Re: the encryption wars have just begun. At least for as long as VPNs are still legal.
Watch if encryption doesn't become illegal as well. Goodbye HTTPS!
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| | | | Re: the encryption wars have just begun. said by milnoc:At least for as long as VPNs are still legal.
Watch if encryption doesn't become illegal as well. Goodbye HTTPS! Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
If it does, it would be ironic as right now there are laws on the books that actually require some businesses to encrypt their data and/or communications.
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| Re: the encryption wars have just begun. said by Pirate515:If it does, it would be ironic as right now there are laws on the books that actually require some businesses to encrypt their data and/or communications. No, it will just become illegal for the average person to use encryption or a VPN service. Big businesses will be granted special permission to continue using them. | |
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kudos:1 | Well that would effectively kill the financial industry. | |
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| Re: the encryption wars have just begun. said by Mashiki:Well that would effectively kill the financial industry.
Considering the amount of liability we have already, I can't imagine any of the major banks are going to roll over on this one.
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| Re: the encryption wars have just begun. said by El Quintron:said by Mashiki:Well that would effectively kill the financial industry.
Considering the amount of liability we have already, I can't imagine any of the major banks are going to roll over on this one. Yeah me either on that. Or financial institutions like clearing houses for trades or for currencies. | |
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | the way the government would do it is have an "encryption license" for HTTPS connections and stores and financial groups would have to have this license to allow encryption connection generation.
Keeping in mind banning encryption would work about as well as the last time the government banned something everybody uses. I seem to remember history class on this one... it gave the rise to the Mafia becoming an actual power... oh yea how did that Prohibition thing work out...
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|  ctceoPremium
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South Bend, IN | Paralell decryption and NSA backdoors all but render it useless anyway. The reason you won't hear about it either is the gag order on the back end. | |
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| | | Re: Wonder what IPV6 usage will have on this?said by Linklist:Do the cable companies have in place the ability to track IPV6 IP addresses like they do with IPV4 addresses. Are the logs linking IPV6 addresses with customer account information? I think legally they are obligated to retain that information (not sure for how long though).
Again, those wishing to get around that will just sign up for foreign VPN's and/or proxies. All ISP's will see then is encrypted traffic. And if VPN provider(s) don't log, then RIAA/MPAA are SOL.
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| | KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Wonder what IPV6 usage will have on this? I would guess that on fully deployed IPv6 each broadband customer gets a certain ipv6 block linked to the MAC of their modem. meaning the cable co will know any device using an IP in that block has come over that customer's connection.
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1 edit | Re: Wonder what effect IPV6 usage will have on this? said by Kearnstd:I would guess that on fully deployed IPv6 each broadband customer gets a certain ipv6 block linked to the MAC of their modem. meaning the cable co will know any device using an IP in that block has come over that customer's connection.
Sounds right, but forensic investigators are concerned:
»www.cybertelecom.org/security/forensic.htm
A word of caution, however: as we move run out of IPv4 addresses and into the IPv6 transition, the network will increasingly be kludged with devices such as NAT boxes which may make it increasingly difficult to match a specific IP address to a specific individual. | |
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2 edits | Re: Wonder what effect IPV6 usage will have on this? said by El Quintron:said by Linklist:Do the cable companies have in place the ability to track IPV6 IP addresses like they do with IPV4 addresses. Are the logs linking IPV6 addresses with customer account information?
I was under the impression that one of the benefits of IPv6 was that it had IPsec built in... which would certainly make it more difficult for the ISP to track what you were doing. I thought that too.
My router gives 1 IPV6 address to Comcast on the WAN connection. But when a PC on my local net logs on to a web site, it never gives that IPV6 address to the web site. Each device gives a completely separate IPV6 address to the web site different from the WAN addr given to Comcast. Now I know routing tables must tie the 2 together, but if a web site give Comcast a device IPV6 address to lookup, do their logs tie the two together and also to an account record? Interesting questions I am not technical enough to answer.
P.S.>>I am not sure why, but my router does NOT include the MAC address in the IPV6 addr for the router itself or client machines in the IPV6 address given to a web site as some clients do. »superuser.com/questions/243669/h···ing-ipv6 | |
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| BTGUARD. Argh Mateys! Canadian and therefore exempt from stupid US laws.
Unless the US blocks access to Canadian VPN services.
I don't see that happening.
RIAA MPIA RIP.
I sell software I write and I have even put it up on Pirate Bay.
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said by workablob:Unless the US blocks access to Canadian VPN services. Not sure how viable blocking VPN access will be, not to mention that it will prevent some people from using VPN for something useful, like work. For example, the company that I work for has VPN servers in the UK and Singapore. Just because I am VPN-ing into a foreign server, how do you tell if I am doing so for piracy or for work-related purposes? From an ISP perspective, all you see is encrypted traffic.
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| Re: BTGUARD. Argh Mateys! said by Pirate515:said by workablob:Canadian and therefore exempt from stupid US laws. Hate to break it to you, but some stupid US laws manage to find their way around the world in some way, shape or form. While SOPA/PIPA were killed here in the US, similar legislation was introduced in some EU countries and I think actually managed to pass in some of them. said by workablob:Unless the US blocks access to Canadian VPN services. Not sure how viable blocking VPN access will be, not to mention that it will prevent some people from using VPN for something useful, like work. For example, the company that I work for has VPN servers in the UK and Singapore. Just because I am VPN-ing into a foreign server, how do you tell if I am doing so for piracy or for work-related purposes? From an ISP perspective, all you see is encrypted traffic. Nothing lasts forever; true. But there will always be a way around unjust laws.
For now I sing Oh Canada.
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| ctceoPremium
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South Bend, IN | The us went overseas to New Zealand and slapped some cuffs around. What makes you think it would be any less difficult in canada? | |
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| Re: BTGUARD. Argh Mateys! said by ctceo:The us went overseas to New Zealand and slapped some cuffs around. What makes you think it would be any less difficult in canada?
Nothing.
I am using what is available at present.
When or if that gets shut down I will move on to the next willing party.
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It's not like the US has the 'corner' on the Internet. They can't park some digital battle fleet off of some countries cyber shore and threaten with gunboat diplomacy.
If the big picture is trending the way I see it. The entire planet is getting fed up with the US trying to rule the roost. In part because of organized crime, like the recording industry, squealing like a stuck pig because little Johnny downloaded the latest hit tune. | |
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| | Speaking of signing off... I will sign off completely off of comcast if they increase my internet bill. I got 2 other non comcrap and spy-T&T internet providers to pick from. | |
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join:2008-04-05
Westfield, MA | ahhhhh The battle begins. This should be a fun rest of year to watch this fold out. | |
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join:2002-03-27
Syracuse, NY
kudos:3 | I'm going to download nothing but Metallica CD's and video's and delete them because, well, they suck. Piss off. | |
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|  Simba7I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | Re: I'm going to download I'd like to say..
Thanks, Metallica.. For fscking your customers over.
Go Napster! I sure do miss the good ol' days. | |
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join:2002-03-27
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| Re: I'm going to download Heck, I'd even take Aimster. These folks are really pushing things a bit too far. If they try to force more people into "legal" downloading like Netflix + redbox then there's going to be even a bigger demand for bandwidth that, sadly, most providers haven't a chance of provisioning. So what's after that? Back to the 5 o'clock Popeye cartoons on the old black and white that I grew up with? If anything the providers should be happy that people are still happy with some crummy 2 Mpbs stream that uploads 4 MB pics in an hour! Someday this is going to get pushed into the mainstream and the demand for broadband will far outstrip the providers ability to, well, provide. Then what? Joe and Joanie Sixpack ain't gonna give a shit about "piracy" when they can't even send an email.
These folks are crawling up the wrong fat dogs ass.
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| Rob_Premium
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| Now causing rampid theft of services this is going to cause bandwidth theft though poorly or unsecured Wi-Fi routers. 80% of Wi-Fi networks in the city where I live is either unsecured or using WEP. Verizon uses WEP for the default wireless security on the modem router combos. Wi-fi theft is very high where I live. I live in the poorest city in the nation.
Who is going to pay $35.00 fee to protest their innocence
the Mc Donalds parking lot gets full of people with laptops using their Wi-Fi with out buying anything
something needs to be done about Wi-Fi theft also
I have neighbors that are trying to get access to my Wi-fi since 2003 they are not giving up as of right now they have a reward for the first person to get my security key.
The attacks against my Wi-fi was once a month now it is at least 2 times a week now i think it will get worse now when this starts
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Mary Esther, FL | ARRRRRR Climb aboard my pirate ship, unencrypted wifi, FIOS like speed and peerblock at the router's end (needs to be invented...) and yes, PeerBlock WORKS..
(sarcastic grin)
They will never stop this, it will just change. The RIAA and MPAA are not even needed anymore - what's next, downloading will become illegal? Back to dial up!
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join:2003-08-04
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No kidding.. FLAC or APE. Both are lossless.
Yes but do they sound AS GOOD as analogue?? | |
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Unless the Constitution can be suspended by your ISP like it is by the TSA at airports I think it is time for someone with deep pockets to file a lawsuit contesting the $35.00 charge. Before the Fascists took over here in the US you were presumed innocent until proven guilty.
