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The Lan Man
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join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
clubs: | ewww no thx | |
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 | karlj1
join:2004-01-25
Ottawa, ON
| It's not so bad... I've used HPNA before and it can be quite handy, especially in older homes. Though for any home built within the last 10 - 15 years should have cat5 or at least cat3 for phone wiring, so this is unnecessary.
Though there's also that rare technology called WiFi.
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acs12798
join:2006-03-13
| I had homePNA, it stunk I had homePNA 2.0 in my house for a while it was awful. It was fine during the day, but every night around 7pm it would start to degrade continuously until i totally lost connection around 9pm. We could never isolate the interference and so it essentially became useless. Maybe 3.0 is better | |
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Matt
Gone playing Dragon Age Origins
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC |  Key Part of the Article
Very interesting.
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wilbilt
Pronto Resurrected
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join:2004-01-11
Oroville, CA
| Re: Key Part of the Article said by Matt  :I think a key part of the article is that the exec stated they are starting to consider the copper wire inside your home as part of THEIR network. Very interesting. They pretty much lost that battle 30+ years ago. Your home = your wiring. Many older homes have daisy-chained phone and coax wiring, which is useless for today's technologies.
It does bring concern, though...first the re-assimilation of Ma Bell, and then the "we own your wiring" thing. Curious.
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| | PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
1 edit | Re: Key Part of the Article said by wilbilt :
Many older homes have daisy-chained phone and coax wiring, which is useless for today's technologies. Not true. Both MoCA and HomePNA are designed to work well on such topologies. If they didn't, why would they bother? | |
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wilbilt
Pronto Resurrected
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join:2004-01-11
Oroville, CA
| Re: Key Part of the Article said by PDXPLT :said by wilbilt :
Many older homes have daisy-chained phone and coax wiring, which is useless for today's technologies. Not true. Both MoCA and HomePNA are designed to work well on such topologies. If they didn't, why would they bother? Oh noes....say it ain't so! I think of my parents' home, built in 1968, with a single loop of untwisted, unshielded, and unrestrained phone wiring going from room to room. They want to pass data on that Chit? And claim "ownership"?
The spurious emissions alone will cause 3-eyed babies soon enough, you'll see...;)
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| | Claybraker
join:2002-04-13
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| said by wilbilt :Many older homes have daisy-chained phone and coax wiring, which is useless for today's technologies. Back when I used to try and make HPNA 2 work, looped wiring was fine. It was the newer houses with CAT5 home runs (bridge-tap) that gave me ulcers.
I think you're reading too much into this about the DeathStar owning your inside wiring. It's really very simple. In order to meet customer expectations, they've got to get the signal from the NID to the device inside the premise. | |
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| kherr
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join:2000-09-04
Collinsville, IL
clubs: | Didn't read the article. But if they consider it part of "their" network, does that mean that "they" have to maintain it ?? | |
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mlemon
Need Sleeeeeep
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join:2002-07-02
Kansas City, MO
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| Re: Key Part of the Article said by kherr :Didn't read the article. But if they consider it part of "their" network, does that mean that "they" have to maintain it ?? I was thinking the same thing. My house was built in 1929, and if they want to own the copper in my house, they can come in and replace it all!
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odreian615
join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL | It worked well for me until my old 2wire modem clunked out and ATT sent out a new 2wire box (130$)that dont support Hpna | |
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Claybraker
join:2002-04-13
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| Gives me a warm fuzzy "That made HomePNA a likely choice, but the kicker was the suite of diagnostic tools HomePNA was able to offer. AT&T can pinpoint the exact locations of interference or signal loss within a home, Reed said."
Yep, it's that bridge tap splice in the now finished basement with the sheet rock ceiling. Got it pinpointed.
Good to hear it's been working fine in the lab. | |
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| bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | Re: Gives me a warm fuzzy Yea, they have a tracetone that can send a signal that the probe will read up to a short then past will no longer read. Works great for pointing out to the customer why you can't fix the problem. | |
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| | Claybraker
join:2002-04-13
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| Re: Gives me a warm fuzzy I've got mixed emotions about HPNA. It was frustrating standing eyeball to eyeball with a subscriber telling them I couldn't make it work with any kind of reliability, but OTOH, there was tons of overtime involved.
Fact is, there's not going to be one technology that works in all cases. A mixed bag of HPNA, MOCA, Wireless, Powerline and running new wire, depending on the situation is going to be required. | |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | it roots HPNA is much more MA BELL (uses telephone wires) than MOCA, MOCA has the feeling of a cable tv service (coax), but HPNA doesnt, so HPNA wins, ATT is getting back to its roots. | |
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO
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| own cat5 can i use cat5 if i run it my self for them?
or do i HAVE to use this junk
we just wired the house i live in for cat5 in every room all we would have to so is run a line to the out side of the house in the attic then to router
that would take like 10 min | |
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