Industry Pushing Canadian Version of SOPA Complete With Internet Filters, ISP Content Babysitting While SOPA/PIPA is all but dead here in the States, Canadian law professor Michael Geist notes that the entertainment industry is pushing the Canadian equivalent through Canada's legislative corridors. In a blog post, Geist notes that Canada's Bill C-11 contains all the obnoxious things that generated such heated protest here in the States, including website blocking, Internet termination for alleged repeat infringers, and an new powers opponents worry -- just as with SOPA -- are overly broad and could make life difficult for legitimate businesses. From an earlier Geist post: According to the music industry document, Bill C-11's "enabler provision" should be expanded to include "services that are primarily operated to enable infringement or which induce infringement." Those demands are echoed by the Entertainment Software Association of Canada, which called on the government to "amend the enabling provision to ensure that it applies to services that are "designed or operated" primarily to enable acts of infringement." Both groups also want statutory damages added to the enabler provision so that liability can run into the millions of dollars for a target website. The result, of course, is that legitimate businesses are terrified they'll find themselves in the crosshairs of a trigger happy entertainment industry, their overly broad definition of what constitutes an "enabler" of piracy, and their personal police force (a growing list of easily lobbied governments). Also just like SOPA, critics wonder why the law is even necessary, given the government seems to have all the tools necessary to pursue Canadian websites like ISOHunt.
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK Reviews:
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| It just never ends Seriously, they keep pushing and pushing until they get it. Eventually they get a "compromise" which allows a bad law to go into effect, somewhat watered down. Then after a few years they start "strengthening" and "expanding" the bad law until it's even more draconian and messed up then the original proposal.
Public vigilance is the only weapon to fight back, but honestly, unless politicians actually lose their jobs for supporting crap like this, then the lobbyists will just keep trying again and again until they win, eventually the opposition wears out. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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|  |  Pv8man join:2008-07-24 Hammond, IN | Re: It just never ends it's very clear that our governments will never stop trying to assume as much control of the net as they possibly can.
We just all must assume that the government does not care how we feel about it.
We must go on the offensive and constantly work on developing ways to bypass any sort of filter they could think of. | |
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| Re: It just never ends You have to point out the real majorities in a system where majorities rule. You have to call people out when they are speaking talking points crafted by the industry and believing them to be true or in everyones best interest. You have to call people out when they go along with things just because they don't really care, make them care.
In short, target the people around you, target tho spread of stupidity and lies, don't be afraid to call something a lie even if that word upsets people. Be blunt, be clear, be honest. -- Say no to JAMS! | |
|  |  |  | | Can't do it when they have physical control. People dream of a wireless mesh network, but the government has physical control of the air as well.
Its physical control is of course breakable. But almost all people accept--actually prefer--to live like dogs. | |
|  |  |  FutureMonKeep your Mitts off RMoneyPremium,ExMod 2002-05 join:2000-10-05 Seaside, CA 3 edits | said by Pv8man:it's very clear that our governments will never stop trying to assume as much control of the net as they possibly can.
We just all must assume that the government does not care how we feel about it.
We must go on the offensive and constantly work on developing ways to bypass any sort of filter they could think of. There will always be the US Postal Service and/or Sneakernet... lol
It may be limited by signal strength, but didn't somebody at some point in the past attempt digital signal (aka 300 baud modem) over analog short wave?
Someone could write an app that utilizes a slightly modified FAX API and be able to send and store received files as any sort of content...might be slow but it'd work.
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|  |  |  |  elios join:2005-11-15 Springfield, MO | Re: It just never ends and still do check out packet radio the HAM guys do it all the time | |
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 |  |  | | Would be nice to see the Dirty Laundry outed for the Public to Read and from the USA Dirty Laundry as well. If the public can read actual proof maybe enough people will Boycott Big Content and see them for the scum they are. | |
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 | | Just as "lobbying" is little more than bribery, the entertainment "industry" is little more than a racket. Of course, when you're giving money to the people who make the laws, it's easy to get your bribery and racketeering legalized. -- "Sorry for not responding to your post, but either I haven't seen it yet, or what you said was so devoid of substance that I found it utterly uninteresting." | |
|  | | Its still not dead Do yous guys think they are gonna back off that easy? Its just on the shelf for now, so when you are distracted, they will slip it through. | |
|  |  mmay149qPremium join:2009-03-05 Dallas, TX kudos:48 | Re: Its still not dead I don't, I know they will always try different ways to spin it so that it works how they want it to work, but seriously I was brought up with the thought "Sharing is caring!" and I think this like the "wars" America fights are un-winnable, it's fighting against a tactic instead of trying to come up with better ways to eliminate, or make very minimalistic the threat...
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 MrShag join:2006-07-09 Hamilton, ON | non-starter? Since the common carrier laws protect all the providers here.
If someone commits a crime by using the phone, bell is not implicated.
So neither would YouTube.
If the ISP''s pushed the '3 strikes law' I think you could sue them for that since there is no court order to that fact. -- UBB - Universal Butt Banged. Thank-you Bell My I have another. | |
|  |  Roop join:2003-11-15 Ottawa, ON | Re: non-starter? we have two things in our favor:
1) existing laws
2) how easily, quickly and how many people have taken action at past, lesser bills and how the government has at least pretended to listen (ubb) | |
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 SpikePremium join:2008-05-16 Toronto, ON 4 edits | What's wrong with isoHunt? They pay their taxes to the Canadian government just like any other legit business.
Oh yeah, big content just doesn't like them, along with cloud storage services and other innovation that threatens their ancient business model.
Even Canadian modchip sites are coming under fire, god forbid we be the last few countries on earth that are allowed to modify the hardware we bought with our own hard earned money. (and yes its currently legal but the US really HATES that it is)
Canada has none of the legal alternatives to piracy that US citizens currently enjoy. The joke called Netflix Canada doesn't count.
Truth be told, Hollywood has an equal hate for Netflix as they do isoHunt. Both threaten their ancient business model. Think of all those lost profits if everyone signed up for Netflix, since their ability to charge $30 for a movie on a plastic disk would be finished.
Netflix has been accused of de-valuing their content for years, which is no different than what piracy does. If they could get away with calling Netflix pirates, they would. | |
|  |  | | Re: What's wrong with isoHunt? They certainly would...
There was some back and forth about how best to combat piracy, with some in the audience advocating a strategy that supplies more content in new, affordable avenues to undercut the temptation to steal, and Fithian arguing that cheap-prices-up-front approaches such as Netflix streaming and $1 Redbox kiosks are "bad business models."
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|  |  |  | | Re: What's wrong with isoHunt? Time to Start looking into the use of Darknets such as I2P or Tor PM me maybe we can set thing sup together and create a new world one that is away from prying eyes and people who Lobby | |
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