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CooolLog everything see if I care VPN and tor are my best buddies. | |
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FFH5
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2007-Oct-15 4:36 pm
Re: Cooolsaid by brianiscool:Log everything see if I care VPN and tor are my best buddies. And you go thru the hassle and the delays for what reason? What have you got to hide? | |
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2007-Oct-15 4:56 pm
Re: Cooolah the ever ignorant "if you are not a criminal, you got nothing to hide..." argument | |
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Re: Cooolsaid by MxxCon:ah the ever ignorant "if you are not a criminal, you got nothing to hide..." argument The last refuge of the brain dead( and blind) | |
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said by FFH5:said by brianiscool:Log everything see if I care VPN and tor are my best buddies. And you go thru the hassle and the delays for what reason? What have you got to hide? If the government mandated that houses could no longer have walls would you be so cavalier? What have you got to hide? | |
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Have you ever thought for one second that maybe he has nothing to hide?
Maybe he values and respects his right to privacy and will do anything at any lengths to protect the right he so cherishes, like any patriotic, red-blooded American should.
I know I do and I'm a law abiding citizen with nothing to hide. But that is irrelevant because I cherish my right to privacy and will protect it feverishly, especially from the government.
I do not care to live in a police state. | |
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said by FFH5:said by brianiscool:Log everything see if I care VPN and tor are my best buddies. And you go thru the hassle and the delays for what reason? What have you got to hide? Ahh the resident neo-con raises his head | |
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said by FFH5:said by brianiscool:Log everything see if I care VPN and tor are my best buddies. And you go thru the hassle and the delays for what reason? What have you got to hide? But no one said you had to make it so easy to allow this to happen. Rather you have nothing to hide or do, there will be tools out there that will allow unscrupulous types to seek you out and exploit the open door policy we are so quick to allow. Just a quick thought. | |
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said by FFH5:said by brianiscool:Log everything see if I care VPN and tor are my best buddies. And you go thru the hassle and the delays for what reason? What have you got to hide? We all have secrets...maybe they're not illegal but you would still like them to be private. like maybe a cool screenplay or idea you don't want people stealing/leaking....or that secret blog about how you hate your job @ Comcast. or embarrasing porn?? No. people should not be able to just peek in when they feel like it. How would you like my eyeballs on your junk right now? | |
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If there was evidence of you doing something illegal, I think you'd get key-logged by the government and cracked that way. But now you don't have to worry about bored or corrupt agents of the government snooping through your personal and financial info without cause. | |
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I don't know about the NSA, but e-mail deletion can be stopp Learn how to use your service... |
You all might THINK you have no choice about auto-deletion of e-mail, but there is a setting right here that allows you to specify if you want them to allow deletion or not. If you log into webmail, and go to "preferences", you can tell it NOT to delete read or unread messages automatically. You all don't understand, many people don't use their Comcast e-mail address because they have been using other mail providers like "Yahoo" or "G-Mail", or they have Outlook Express told to "leave a copy of message on server", and the person never deletes the message after the download it to their mail client, which generates call-in's about "why is my mailbox bouncing messages back to senders" when their box is full, and also, Comcast doesn't want to waste server space on spam from 8 months ago if you don't even read your Comcast mail. It would be pointless to waste that server space on such an old message in the first place, especially if YOU don't use their mail, but 10 other people DO use it. As far as disclosing information to the government, I can sorta understand why they would charge, because Comcast has an archiving company, and they have to get the info from them if it's old info... Long story short, they reserve the right to charge for the info. It's THEIR network, and I doubt for SERIOUS crimes (like bank fraud, child porn, etc) they won't charge, but for petty stuff (Joe hacked into my computer, and he read my diary, and I wanna sue him) they will make it worth their time, and discourage petty suits from being made. -Rob G | |
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Let the comcast bashing begin...my issue is with their service...I already know there is no privacy! | |
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NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny Yours MVM join:2001-08-03 Grand Rapids, MI |
No supriseThey follow the law which is what they are supposed to do. | |
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2007-Oct-15 4:47 pm
Re: No suprisea number of others don't. In fact, they're downright EAGER to give your personal records to the government without as much as asking WHY. | |
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Re: No suprisesaid by tiger72:a number of others don't. In fact, they're downright EAGER to give your personal records to the government without as much as asking WHY. What does it matter whether Comcrap follows any laws or not? All the telcos that participated in the NSA snoopfest are looking for, and will most likely get, retroactive immunity. ISP immunity is also likely to follow. Consequently, the alleged following of any laws now is a joke. | |
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2007-Oct-15 4:58 pm
cable records can only be retrieved upon a court ordercable records can only be retrieved upon a court order does that mean other(voip/internet) records can be obtained w/o court order? | |
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2007-Oct-15 5:09 pm
Re: cable records can only be retrieved upon a court orderyep. Merely a subpoena, NSA request, Summons, Warrant, etc... can get those. In other words, for everything BUT cable TV, authorities can access those records at-will, without needing a bench-sanctioned warrant for searching your private records. | |
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2007-Oct-15 5:14 pm
Re: cable records can only be retrieved upon a court orderso they can know who you called, and what sites you visited but they need a special court order to know you watched Backdoor Bandits 3 on the Spice Channel.... | |
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It sounds like Comcast has their stuff together...at least in their legal department. Whatever you might think of their service, their surveillance policy is thorough and seems (at first glance) to be decent. | |
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2007-Oct-15 7:25 pm
Gouging to run the spy equipment$1000 for the first month? $750 each month thereafter? Nice racket. | |
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2007-Oct-15 8:21 pm
Re: Gouging to run the spy equipmenthowever by costing money they also make the agency wanting the snooping done think about it rather then just do blanket snooping. as remember those government guys cant use 50 cents in a candy machine without paperwork and red tape. | |
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said by MIRV:$1000 for the first month? $750 each month thereafter? Nice racket. Wondered who would be the first to say it was just about the money. Ever think it is also to discourage the frivilous requests? Do you know how easy it is to get a warrent these days? The costs may just stop some overzealous LEO from persuing something for a friend or at least have to have enough evidence w/o the Comcast info to get approval from the boss whose budget the check will be drawn on. | |
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said by MIRV:$1000 for the first month? $750 each month thereafter? Nice racket. There's also the Triple Play® - $500 a month wiretaps for an entire year if you bundle enhanced NetSpy® (email and deep browsing history) along with PowerSnoop® (10x faster than DSL can tap you). -- .sig probably deleted by the NGZ Zbqrengbe | |
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Re: Gouging to run the spy equipmentI am only surprised that they do not charge a fee on child exploitation cases.
I wonder what other fees were rejected by comcast last year
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1. No Competition Fee (you can't get DSL you pay a $10.00 monthly charge)
2. Repair Call Fee, if you cable or high speed internet goes out you have to pay a dispatch fee
3. Disconnect Fee, if you decide you no longer want comcast service you have to pay 100% of your old cable bill for the next two years, but you don't have to pay any rate increases during that period. | |
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2007-Oct-15 7:53 pm
Constitutionanyone remember the constitution? we are innocent until proven guilty - now it's guilty until proven.
this is about greed and CONTROL.
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Re: ConstitutionDon't be a drama queen. No where in that document does Comcast say anything about assuming guilt before innocence. If anything, they appear to be following the letter of the law. | |
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Re: ConstitutionAs much as i generally hate comcast, i must admit they did not sell out customers to the Riaa and NSA.
ATT and Verizon are both looking for a presidential pardon in the form of the veto pen. | |
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Re: Constitutionsaid by Freezone:As much as i generally hate comcast, i must admit they did not sell out customers to the Riaa and NSA. ATT and Verizon are both looking for a presidential pardon in the form of the veto pen. Agreed. In this case, Comcast is just complying with the law. They clearly spell out what information is provided, to whom, and reasons when that information is exposed. Unlike those Verizon folk who think CPNI is theirs to sell to anybody and their mother. | |
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Re: ConstitutionI am glad that Comcast was open enough to share their privacy polices with the public. It shows me that my ISP provider cares enough about how I feel about privacy rights. It also shows me that they will not give out or volunteer any information unless they are required to by law.
Good job Comcast, and thanks for the information. | |
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2007-Oct-15 11:58 pm
All emails between friends are encryptedAll email between my friends are encrypted, government is welcome to read my encrypted emails. | |
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Govt surveillence laws are unconstitutional.Its not whether Comcast AT&T or any other Telco followed the laws because the laws are unconstitutional (in my opinion). The Feds are saying they can get anything they want from anyone without a court order warrant or subpoena. Whatever happened to the Constitution and its so-called inalienable rights? Pissed on and defecated on by those zealots who are two steps below a cretin. I don't think I have anything to hide but piss on them if they think that because they want information on me they take it. Its high time the Supreme Court grew some cojones and protected the Americans rather than selling them out for political gain and personal prestige. Its a pipe dream I know because the "Supreme Court" is nothing but a puppet and someone besides me is pulling their strings. | |
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2007-Oct-17 8:15 pm
Re: Govt surveillence laws are unconstitutional.Amen Jimbo-48 | |
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