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Insider Tells Us Comcast Will Shake Up Speed Tiers This Year
Xfinity rebranding means a market gets 12/2, 20/4, 50/10, 100/25 Mbps tiers

An insider at Comcast informs Broadband Reports that Comcast users should expect a shake up in the company's speed tiers sometime during the next eight months. The changes should arrive as Comcast continues to push their "Xfinity" rebranding effort into different markets. According to the source, the new Comcast tiers will be 12/2 Mbps, 20/4 Mbps, 50/10 Mbps, and 100/25 Mbps. Current 22/5 customers will be grandfathered, according to the source, and Comcast apparently hopes to get that 100 Mbps tier into about 20% of their footprint this year.

The source notes that these speed tiers could change before final launch.

Comcast's current speeds differ depending on whether you're in a DOCSIS 3.0 upgraded market or not. Non DOCSIS 3.0 market customers currently have the choice of three tiers: 6/1 Mbps, 8/2 Mbps, and 16/2 Mbps. DOCSIS 3.0 upgraded markets have their choice of 12/2 Mbps, 16/2 Mbps, 22/5 Mbps, or 50/10 Mbps. Customers in Minneapolis currently can get a 100 Mbps tier, though that tier will expand into additional markets at a price point that's more reasonable than the $370 charged in Minneapolis.

Much later this year it looks like Comcast users will also start seeing some faster upstream speeds. As we noted last month, upstream DOCSIS 3.0 channel bonding appears to finally be coming together. Comcast says they're now able to deliver a consistent 75 Mbps upstream in field tests, and 100 Mbps upstream in lab tests. Comcast CTO Tony Werner had originally been telling reporters that faster DOCSIS 3.0 speeds would drop during the first quarter of 2010, but all indications are now that an upstream bump for Comcast customers won't occur until late this year.

Update: Says our source: "all signs are pointing that we will still offer the economy tier (1mb/384k) along with all the other tiers listed," for those of your wondering about the possible death of their economy tier.
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PhoenixDown
FIOS is Awesome
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PhoenixDown

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I want that 100/25 Mbps tier

that would be great... now ... about those caps?

DarkLogix
Texan and Proud
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Baytown, TX

DarkLogix

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Re: I want that 100/25 Mbps tier

Its a soft cap don't worry unless your downloading more trhan 99.9% of users in your area

DataRiker
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DataRiker

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Re: I want that 100/25 Mbps tier

said by DarkLogix:

Its a soft cap don't worry unless your downloading more trhan 99.9% of users in your area
i just thought about this statement. Actually there must exist a user that is above 99.9% at all times. So it must be one of us

tiger72
SexaT duorP
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Saint Louis, MO

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250GB cap hit in ~ 5 hours?

Acuity
join:2002-06-22
Londonderry, NH

Acuity

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Re: I want that 100/25 Mbps tier

With that argument, why don't you just get the good ole' copper DSL?

PapaMidnight
join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

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Re: I want that 100/25 Mbps tier

said by Acuity:

With that argument, why don't you just get the good ole' copper DSL?
I would actually LOVE to have the damned option to get DSL.

fonzbear2000
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Saint Paul, MN
·Verizon Wireless

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said by tiger72:

250GB cap hit in ~ 5 hours?
That's if people do that much downloading. If someone switches from the 12/2 tier to 100/25 and does the same amount of downloading and they weren't hitting the cap on 12/2, they won't hit it on 100/25.

Gbcue
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Santa Rosa, CA

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said by PhoenixDown:

that would be great... now ... about those caps?
Pay out the a$$!

cp
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Wheaton, IL

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said by PhoenixDown:

that would be great... now ... about those caps?
Get a business connection - caps problem solved.

I'm getting the feeling people are complaining for the sake of complaining.

DataRiker
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DataRiker

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Re: I want that 100/25 Mbps tier

said by cp:

said by PhoenixDown:

that would be great... now ... about those caps?
Get a business connection - caps problem solved.

I'm getting the feeling people are complaining for the sake of complaining.
Sure, you supply the extra money for that business account. Who's complaining for the sake of complaining again?

cp
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Wheaton, IL

cp

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Re: I want that 100/25 Mbps tier

I feel that it's completely fair to charge a high volume user a higher premium to use a network. People that use that much bandwidth stress networks and cause a poorer experience for everyone.

DataRiker
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Re: I want that 100/25 Mbps tier

250 GB = high volume?
You realize that this is a 100 mbit/s account? That is about 5 hours of sustained use.

Giving people a 100mbit/s account with only 250 GB's is a big slap in the fucking face. Its a little like false advertisement.

If comcast can't offer a monthly service that will work for more than 5 hours of sustained use , who's fault do you think that is? the customer? Just because you don't mind bending over and taking it doesn't mean I like it. For many consumers the cable company is a Monopoly over their internet service ( me included).

xNPC
As Usual, Have Nice Day
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thats bullshit. (responding to clever proxy)

DataRiker
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Re: I want that 100/25 Mbps tier

said by xNPC:

thats bullshit. (responding to clever proxy)
Agreed, It is bullshit.

clever proxy is blaming other customers for bad user experiences instead of his cable provider which gives a new meaning to corporate apologist.

cp
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Wheaton, IL

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cp

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Re: I want that 100/25 Mbps tier

That's not what I meant, way to take things out of context.

I guess that also means that cell phone companies that offer 50 minute packages are false advertising as well.

It's all about perspective and opinion at this point.

DataRiker
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Re: I want that 100/25 Mbps tier

Nevermind.

SolarPup
Office365 Rockstar
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said by cp:

That's not what I meant, way to take things out of context.

I guess that also means that cell phone companies that offer 50 minute packages are false advertising as well.

It's all about perspective and opinion at this point.
I agree with you... for sure. The ones that said BS, is because they are the ones using the crap out of the network and want more something for nothing.

Like the wireless companies and their WIFI.. you use more than 5gb a month, you're paying for it...

DataRiker
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Re: I want that 100/25 Mbps tier

said by SolarPup:

said by cp:

That's not what I meant, way to take things out of context.

I guess that also means that cell phone companies that offer 50 minute packages are false advertising as well.

It's all about perspective and opinion at this point.
I agree with you... for sure. The ones that said BS, is because they are the ones using the crap out of the network and want more something for nothing.

Like the wireless companies and their WIFI.. you use more than 5gb a month, you're paying for it...
Funny how caps from my local cable company are no longer technically necessary when they compete with fiber ( COX )

That old bandwidth is a "fossil fuel" argument is lame.
fiberguy2
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Does EVERY frickin' news/commentary post about Comcast HSI speeds HAVE to begin with someone posting the traditional "but what about those caps" comment?

Gbcue
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Gbcue

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Re: I want that 100/25 Mbps tier

said by fiberguy2:

Does EVERY frickin' news/commentary post about Comcast HSI speeds HAVE to begin with someone posting the traditional "but what about those caps" comment?
Because that's what they're known for.

First it was the invisible caps (years ago), when they didn't tell anybody.
Then it was the sandvine P2P throttling.
fiberguy2
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Re: I want that 100/25 Mbps tier

There's something called "it's getting old".. and it doesn't need to be beat into the ground.

And, if Comcast is known for their 250gb cap.. then what are these ISPs that cap at 5GB or some that believe even less is needed?

Get over it already... there are places to talk about that.. the world doesn't need to revolve around a cap that about 99% of people never hit.

I suppose EVERY single Verizon post needs to have their horrible billing system discussed as well even if the story is about anything but? Think about it... it's old already.

tiger72
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Re: I want that 100/25 Mbps tier

said by fiberguy2:

There's something called "it's getting old".. and it doesn't need to be beat into the ground.

And, if Comcast is known for their 250gb cap.. then what are these ISPs that cap at 5GB or some that believe even less is needed?

Get over it already... there are places to talk about that.. the world doesn't need to revolve around a cap that about 99% of people never hit.

I suppose EVERY single Verizon post needs to have their horrible billing system discussed as well even if the story is about anything but? Think about it... it's old already.
The place to talk about that is here. A broadband forum. It just so happens that Comcast is also the largest broadband ISP, and thus likely affects more users here on this forum than just about any other ISP.

And, although you're looking for an anti-Comcast conspiracy, you'll find users continue to make these EXACT SAME comments about wireless operators plans also.
See: TMO HSPA+, ATT LTE, and VZW LTE posts for reference.
fiberguy2
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Re: I want that 100/25 Mbps tier

.. and guess what? It doesn't matter WHERE they discuss what... the fact is that there is a topic, and people always have to run off to what's been discussed into the ground. If a new topic is posted, I could care less if it's VZ, TWC, ATT, anything, it gets old when someone has to come in and say the same, broken-record, comment that they always do

They could say "There was a DNS outage" and someone would have to post "What about the caps?".. There could be a "TV Anywhere is now available to connections outside of Comcast's" and someone would post "what about the caps"...

It gets old - and if you've ever posted on FB, ANY time a group-profile post something, like American Idol posted a behind the scenes tour, the entire thread turned into an argument about anything and everything..

I dunno, maybe I'm just too old fashion, but its kind of nice to stick to the topics.

tiger72
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Re: I want that 100/25 Mbps tier

Last I checked, the topic in this thread is about the implication of using that higher speed to reach the cap quicker.

The news post doesn't reference caps, but this thread does. If you're against discussing it, feel free to ignore the discussion thread.

DataRiker
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said by fiberguy2:

.. and guess what? It doesn't matter WHERE they discuss what... the fact is that there is a topic, and people always have to run off to what's been discussed into the ground. If a new topic is posted, I could care less if it's VZ, TWC, ATT, anything, it gets old when someone has to come in and say the same, broken-record, comment that they always do

They could say "There was a DNS outage" and someone would have to post "What about the caps?".. There could be a "TV Anywhere is now available to connections outside of Comcast's" and someone would post "what about the caps"...

It gets old - and if you've ever posted on FB, ANY time a group-profile post something, like American Idol posted a behind the scenes tour, the entire thread turned into an argument about anything and everything..

I dunno, maybe I'm just too old fashion, but its kind of nice to stick to the topics.
The internet police strikes again. No talking about caps, no discussing caps in forums, no making fun of comcap, no......

C_Chipperson
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Looking good!

20/4 is the perfect compromise in my opinion, twice the upload of 12/2 for 10 bucks more. And the 25 meg upload on the 100/25 tier indicates upstream channel bonding perhaps?

edit-just saw upstream bonding mentioned in the article. Cool!

cp
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Wheaton, IL

cp

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Re: Looking good!

Very excited about upstream channel bonding!

Paul Harrgis
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You should get 44.1k/25MBPS service from Ted's Bandwidth Emporium. I hear it's powered by Ghostsss and Wizardry.

slowOne
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slowOne

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What about the Economy (1M / 384k) Tier

Hey, What about my Economy Tier 1M / 384K ?

elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO

elios

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Re: What about the Economy (1M / 384k) Tier

god no
more like the 8/2 economy tier
should be the min every were imo
chas3
join:2004-12-03
Dallastown, PA

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seriously,
is there going to be a $25 economy tier? or cheaper?
Having only 1M service you can almost guarantee the kids won't go over the 250G cap.
Given DSL prices, I would hope they would offer a little more speed or less price for this economy tier.

djrobx
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Reno, NV

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I'd just like to take this opportunity

To extend a heartfelt "f*** you" to Time Warner Cable. These are speeds that my area would be getting had Comcast not left the Los Angeles area.

Instead we get Time Warner's famous "surgical" upgrades and botched consumption based billing "innovations".

Must be nice to have a cable company that's making progress.

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beerbum
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behind you..
Motorola MB8600
ARRIS TG862
Asus RT-AC5300

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I guess we got it..

Been getting all kinds of xfinity branded ads and flyers for the last month or so, the latest pushing their Xfinity VOIP. Anyway, checking my modem reveals this:




It's been a while since I checked, the last time the speeds were 6600/1100. Not sure when the speed was increased..

Robert
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join:2001-08-25
Miami, FL

Robert

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Re: I guess we got it..

Actually those provisional rates you are seeing are because of DOC 3.0 roll out. As Comcast rolled out DOC 3.0, they upgraded all 6/1 customers to 12/2 (13200/2200).

GlobalMind
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Indianapolis, IN

GlobalMind

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20/4 already

They were already advertising 20/4...it's what I signed up for.

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Cobo62
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Price

All i care about is the price of the service.

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Camaro
Question everything
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Westfield, MA

Camaro

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22/5 tier

Cool that is what i have and have been wondering what will happen,to bad they won't bump me up to 50.

ggmmolly
@towerstream.com

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Towerstream

But we are truley symmetrical at Towerstream
iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX

iansltx

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Re: Towerstream

And you charge out the *** too. Your point?

WeSRT4
join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL

WeSRT4

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AT&T

Docsis 3.0 is going to kill AT&T. They decided to be cheap with their technology path. Now they are going to pay for it.

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45612019 (banned)
join:2004-02-05
New York, NY

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Comcap

So does Comcap still have that 250 GB cap in place?

100 Mbps... ooh, that sounds really exciting! *hits monthly 250 GB bandwidth cap after just 5 hours of using my shiny new 100 Mbps Internet connection*

welp

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33358088 (banned)
join:2008-09-23

33358088 (banned)

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get rady for your lower caps and thorttlong to return

and what ya gonna do about it.
cry and now learn what canada has suffered with

ENJOY

Agent Smith2
join:2008-07-07
New York

Agent Smith2

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lol

»www.youtube.com/watch?v= ··· SPP_GVok

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KodiacZiller
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Correction

Not all non-DOCSIS 3 markets can get 16/2. The fastest tier my market offers is 8/2. No DOCSIS3 here -- not even Blast!

I am seriously doubting my market will ever be upgraded.
jus10
join:2009-08-04
Gainesville, VA

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Re: Correction

I'm in a DS 3 market and can only get 16/2, which is actually 12/2 according to shaper probe. I'd consider buying 20/4 so I guess it is good they don't offer it here.

Cheese
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Naples, FL

Cheese

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Are these speeds....

With the PB or before PB?
iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX

iansltx

Member

Re: Are these speeds....

Before/sustained.
niplet
join:2003-10-04
Nashville, TN

niplet

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now, about this grandfathering....

i am currently on the 50/10 and if they grandfatehr the 22/5 to 50/10 will they grandfather me in at 100/25?
OH, i sure hope so.

Contents
Contents
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Circle Pines, MN

Contents

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Re: now, about this grandfathering....

said by niplet:

i am currently on the 50/10 and if they grandfatehr the 22/5 to 50/10 will they grandfather me in at 100/25?
OH, i sure hope so.
Do they mean grandfathered into keeping the 22/5 or upgraded to 50/10?

baineschile
2600 ways to live
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Sterling Heights, MI

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Re: now, about this grandfathering....

Probably means people who have the 22/5 will keep it, not get a free upgrade.
tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY

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Member

baby steps...

Well, 100/25 isn't the best they can do, but it will probably encourage the 'other' cablecos (Cablevision, Time Warner can do better than 101/15 once this gets released) with 100mbit tiers to increase the upstream speeds. I am annoyed that Verizon fios is now hocking 15/5 instead of 25/15 or 25/25 and the SAME price.. hence a PRICE INCREASE in effect throwing an oil slick down on what competition there may have been in the most competitive overlapping footprints.

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Scatcatpdx
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Portland, OR

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Member

Excuse me

The 250GB in 5 hours is a load of crap.
I hardly do 25GB a month that is with Hulu and Itunes.
The only ones are left, are downloading psychopaths who deserve to have their cable cut and a trip to the library book section. As is read a book and get a life.
My actual use is less than 18GB a month

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Polo08816
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East Brunswick, NJ

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cap

Well, I set my computer to download the entire interwebz and hit 750gb last month.

I wonder if they are really terminating service in areas that have both Comcast and FiOS.
hata28
join:2008-12-16
Philadelphia, PA

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Re: cap

said by Polo08816:

Well, I set my computer to download the entire interwebz and hit 750gb last month.

I wonder if they are really terminating service in areas that have both Comcast and FiOS.
That's nice.....I got about 748GB last month....averagely I hit more than 700 GB every month snce I had 50/10 last Aug., never got any call b4 and never will. Cos I switch to FiOS 35/35 last week and love the upstream.

NoCaps
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NoCaps

Anon

250GB cap = fail

100/25 should have at least 750GB cap.
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