Intel's Viiv Intel attacks the living room (and Sony & MS) Anandtech brings forth bountiful news from the Intel Developers forum, including details on the company's new Viiv (sounds like "Five") technology. Shipping in 2006, the new PCs are designed for the living room, boot "almost instantly", feature dual-core processors, and are aimed at making home networking and home media sharing simpler. See the company's press release for more details.
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  LaZ3RPremium
join:2003-01-17 | Umm I could've made a name better than "Viiv" Yeash...
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North Aurora, IL | Re: Umm said by LaZ3R:I could've made a name better than "Viiv" Yeash... First post! Let's hear it!:D
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| |  MysticGogetaThe Robot DevilPremium
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League City, TX | Why no just simply "5"? | |
| | |  qdemn7Smurf in My LoopPremium
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Fort Worth, TX | Re: Umm Because Intel was refused a copyright on the number "5" years ago, that's why. | |
| | |  nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
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Alexandria, VA | Because you can't copyright/register a word in common use as a trademark. For example, "Windows". By itself, not copyrightable. When teamed with "Microsoft Windows", it is then copyrightable.
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Barberton, OH | Re: Umm said by nixen:Because you can't copyright/register a word in common use as a trademark. For example, "Windows". By itself, not copyrightable. When teamed with "Microsoft Windows", it is then copyrightable. -tom Nope but you sure can trade mark words just ask coca cola,,,,,
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Alexandria, VA | Re: Umm said by novaflare:said by nixen:Because you can't copyright/register a word in common use as a trademark. For example, "Windows". By itself, not copyrightable. When teamed with "Microsoft Windows", it is then copyrightable. -tom Nope but you sure can trade mark words just ask coca cola,,,,, If one invents the word and defends the brand from the beginning, then yes. "Coke" is copyrightable. "Coca Cola" is copyrightable. "Coca" and "Cola", not in combination with each other, are not copyrightable.
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| | | | uh vi=6 iv=4 "64"
they were trying to be clever and rip off vaio at the same time
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Cloverdale, VA | Re: Umm 64 is actually LXIV, but then how would one pronounce that?
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| | good idea This seems like it could have some potential. They better make it small though | |
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1 edit |  Some interesting features
All PCs based on Intel Viiv technology will ship with a remote control, the Microsoft Windows* Media Center Edition operating system and media software that lets consumers interact with their PC in the same way they operate a TV.
In another TV-like function, consumers will be able to quickly turn their PCs on and off (after initial boot-up) with the touch of a button through a new platform feature called Intel® Quick Resume Technology. Each Intel Viiv technology-based PC will also ship with 5.1 surround sound (with optional support for up to 7.1 surround sound) for home theater-quality sound.
Intel Viiv technology-based PCs will connect easily to the latest online entertainment services, enabling movie and music downloads, as well as access to the latest games -- all viewed and played from the comfort of the couch.
To help make setting up a home network easier for consumers, Intel Viiv technology will include specially-designed software. The software will contain a network configuration wizard that can be navigated with the system's remote control, making it easy for consumers to connect many devices including portable media players, DVD players, TV sets and stereos.
Intel Viiv technology-based entertainment PCs are expected to be available from a number of system manufacturers worldwide in the first quarter of 2006 Sounds like a souped up Media Center PC with some built-in configuration wizards to make it easier for customers to interface to other devices.
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| | | | Re: Some interesting features Interact with other devices?
Interact with DRM locked devices by intel only. "portable media players, DVD players, TV sets and stereos".
Lets put odds on it's ability to do things that I (and most people) find important. Odds are, it can't do any of the 11 things listed below. If it can't, it sucks.
1: Can I record from HBO, etc?
2: Can I record from PPV movies?
3: Can I record from ABC/etc?
4: Can I record my shows to a DVD?
5: Can I play it back at my friends/relatives house?
6: Will it play back on any DVD player I own? (i.e. the bedroom, kids room, etc?)
7: Can I network it? Transfer to my PC?
8: Can I remove/skip commercials?
9: Can I expand the storage using my own hardware?
10: Will it record and playback in TRUE HD, or just degraded?
11: Will it work with my existing HDTV? (composite out?)
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| | | | | Re: Some interesting features Buy a ReplayTV if you want those features, or maybe that was your point.
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Stockton, CA | Re: I know where this is heading Hella DRM!!!! | |
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Lowell, MA | or you could make a quiet linux box with mythtv and run it 24/7 | |
| | | haha change it to vivi --
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| | | SOS, DD - Just smoke and mirrors What would you expect from the InHell Dumbazz Forum???
Come-on now is ANYONE gullible enough to believe the B.S. InHell has been peddling for years??? I know there are some sheep out there, but even InHell FINALLY admitted their dual-core Pig 4 was only two chips glued together. Funny they refused to open the box and allow journalists to see this hack while they claimed they actually had a running dual-core Pig 4.
SOS, DD.
IMNHO, by the time InHell releases ANYTHING of value, AMD and others will STILL be technologically TWO years ahead and actually SHIPPING product instead of blowing smoke up everyones butt !
If I had a dollar for every defective product InHell has shipped I'd probably have more money than Dollar Bill Gates! | |
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Bonita Springs, FL | Re: SOS, DD - Just smoke and mirrors Hmmmmm.... taylor01.mi.comcast.... That address looks familiar.. | |
| |  owenhomekeeper of the magic blue smokePremium
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Bentonville, AR | said by DUHgetacluefool :
If I had a dollar for every defective product InHell has shipped I'd probably have more money than Dollar Bill Gates!
Really?
For the 8 years my computer company has been in business, we have sold 2461 Intel processors (to date). Care to guess how many have come in bad? Zero, none, zip. Of all the ones we installed here, how many have gone bad? Zero, none, zip. Well there have been 7 come back in surged (lightning, the entire machine was lost) machines. 11 tried to return with bent pins after the user tried to install.
Over all, we have never received a single DOA Intel, or had one fail "for no reason" in 8 years.
AMD? Well, out of 1983 total sold to date, 97 came in DOA (14 were the new Semprons), 114 went dead in the first year "for no reason", and 9 died from surges (lightning).
0/97 hmmm, well, the numbers don't lie. In fact, AMD's have our 3rd highest RMA rate. 1 Power supplies, 2 Motherboards, 3 AMD Processors, 4 RAM, 5 HD's. If I had a dollar for every bad Intel I've received, I'd still be broke. But if I had a dollar for every bad AMD, at least I could take the wife out for a nice dinner.
I am not an AMD hater. Intel has their backers, AMD has theirs. But, has anyone ever noticed how the AMD lovers/ Intel haters are SOOOOO much more polarized and adamant about their views? Politics, Processors, and Mac/PC.
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| | | | | Re: SOS, DD - Just smoke and mirrors from my experiences people who usually have an amd cpu go out on them was usually due to the fact that one that didnt use a quality power supply, two use a stock heatsink instead of purchusing a high performance heatsink and the cpu ended up running out of the temp specs. due to high ambient room temperatures. All easily avoidable. | |
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Barberton, OH | said by owenhome:said by DUHgetacluefool :
If I had a dollar for every defective product InHell has shipped I'd probably have more money than Dollar Bill Gates!
Really? For the 8 years my computer company has been in business, we have sold 2461 Intel processors (to date). Care to guess how many have come in bad? Zero, none, zip. Of all the ones we installed here, how many have gone bad? Zero, none, zip. Well there have been 7 come back in surged (lightning, the entire machine was lost) machines. 11 tried to return with bent pins after the user tried to install. Over all, we have never received a single DOA Intel, or had one fail "for no reason" in 8 years. AMD? Well, out of 1983 total sold to date, 97 came in DOA (14 were the new Semprons), 114 went dead in the first year "for no reason", and 9 died from surges (lightning). 0/97 hmmm, well, the numbers don't lie. In fact, AMD's have our 3rd highest RMA rate. 1 Power supplies, 2 Motherboards, 3 AMD Processors, 4 RAM, 5 HD's. If I had a dollar for every bad Intel I've received, I'd still be broke. But if I had a dollar for every bad AMD, at least I could take the wife out for a nice dinner. I am not an AMD hater. Intel has their backers, AMD has theirs. But, has anyone ever noticed how the AMD lovers/ Intel haters are SOOOOO much more polarized and adamant about their views? Politics, Processors, and Mac/PC. AMD more instructions per clock intel fewer AMD higher performance per clock intel lower. To have the same performance as a amd you need a intel cpu close to 60% faster. Intel is still playing the mhz game and feeding the line of bull to their customer base. Intel brags about high fsb speeds and supper fast mhz ratings yet in reality fsb means very little if you have fewer instructions per clock.
Intels 64 bit cpu plans would have ment we would have needed to upgrade every single application we owned or suffer with 32bit execution speeds of a 500 mhz cpu. Amds 64 bit cpu infact runs 32 bit apps a tad faster for various reasons i wont bore you with (higher mem bandwidth and a few other things major and minor).
As for higher amd return rate 10 to 1 those were all from overclocking wich is easy on amd and much harder on intels.
Ive rmaed intels before and waited nearly 2 months to recieve the replacement. On amd rmas ive gotten the cpu back so fast i doubt amd even got my cpu before sending out the replacement. Out of 3 amds i recieved 2 back in less than 10 days and one took exactly 2 weeks
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| | | | owenhomekeeper of the magic blue smokePremium
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Bentonville, AR | Re: SOS, DD - Just smoke and mirrors I make no claim as to which is faster. AMD is faster than Intel, Intel is faster than AMD. It depends on the app. They are both fine products and have my respect. I recommend both, be it for different reasons/applications.
Some probably were due to OC but that does not account for the DOA's. The vast majority of AMD's I've returned were DOA or died before delivery to the customer.
Keep in mind, this does not account for regular builds. Those are usually from bare bones that are supplied from a vendor with the CPU already installed and benched. My numbers are only from custom builds, counter sales, and upgrades.
AMD does have a great product, don't get me wrong, but there is a need for both AMD and Intel products. Intel does have far fewer QC problems than AMD but you pay a premium for that. I would even venture to say that's the reason why you see Intel in so many more integrated systems.
If I were going to build a system with a critical mission, something that's extremely difficult to access and service after installation, maybe like climate control, it would definitely be Intel based. If I wanted an easily accessible storage server, web server, game box, etc. it'd be AMD. With servers, as far as I'm concerned, M$=Intel *nix=AMD.
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Duluth, GA | Re: SOS, DD - Just smoke and mirrors The whole problem with your AMDs could also be your supplier(s). Especially ones that are greased by Intel. | |
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Rancho Palos Verdes, CA | Wow dual core is two cores?
I wouldn't have thought of that before...
OF COURSE DUAL CORE IS TWO CPU CORES PASTED TOGETHER
hence the name dual core. | |
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| | Hrm. Hrm, never had an AMD go out on me in 10 years. One's I have built for friends, family, or my own personal machines, all work great, stock fan or not. Usually it's user error and not cpu problem. | |
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1 edit | Re: Hrm. said by Cheesew1z :
Usually it's user error and not cpu problem.
How does a person who buys a computer and sits it on their desk and runs MS Windows make their own cpu blow up by user error? | |
| | | | | Re: Hrm. ... I am talking about people who BUILD their own. That's where most CPU failures occur. | |
| | | novaflareThe Dragon Was HerePremium
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Barberton, OH | said by Scott W:said by Cheesew1z :
Usually it's user error and not cpu problem.
How does a person who buys a computer and sits it on their desk and runs MS Windows make their own cpu blow up by user error? Ametures over clocking the cpu or they dont install the heat sink or cpu properly.
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