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Verizon counters cable VoIP with landline deal
(old news - 01:42PM Thursday Aug 31 2006)
tags: prices · competition · business · VoIP
"Verizon stuffed local newspapers in NJ with a flyer offering unlimited local, intrastate, & long distance calling in US for $29.95/month, and this is not a limited time promotion," writes in user TKJunkmail. "It has no time limit listed. Of course, the usual fees and taxes would be added to this, and this is available at this rate without bundling other services." "I guess cable company VOIP competition in NJ is putting pressure on Verizon to stop the loss of customers." The promotion lists this website on the flyer, according to the user. Click on the "learn more" link to see the packages. Click on the "Verizon Freedom Value" link to get more details.

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Morac

join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
·Comcast


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Verzion dropped the price of their freedom plan

Basically Verizon just dropped the price on their Verizon Freedom Value plan (non-VOIP). It used to be $39.95/month. I wonder how much of a profit they were making on it before that they didn't hesitate to decrease the price by 25%.

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dwang5

join:2004-03-04
usa

Re: Verzion dropped the price of their freedom plan

of course, thats $29 with zero included calling features. Not really that cheap.

TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast

If you see a price OTHER THAN 29.95, then change service area to NJ. That is an option on the web page. This price is not for ALL states that Verizon is in.

E.G. the price in Philadelphia, PA is 34.95 for the exact same plan.
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LinuxJunkie

join:2005-01-19
Cyberspace

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Re: Verzion dropped the price of their freedom plan

n/m
Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

whats funny is for 35 bucks you can get a loaded cell plan(Caller ID, voice mail and a reasonable ammount of minutes).

while on a land line the same money doesnt even get you caller ID. how much and how hard is it in truth to provide caller ID anyway?
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sporkme
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join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
·Optimum Online

Still a total rip off. Check the pricing to just add call waiting, caller-id and call waiting caller-id. You are nowhere near any VoIP pricing once you add in the features. These are of course features that cost nothing to provide.

And I challenge anyone to find out what the $29.95 becomes after fees and taxes.
Dolgan
Premium
join:2005-10-01
Sun Prairie, WI
·Verizon Online DSL

Nice!

This is one of the better things that have come down the pipeline in a while. Lower prices will help stop line-loss, and bring people back to Verizon. Let's just how long it takes to go nationwide with this pricing--so all of our customers can benefit.

JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
clubs:
·LINGO
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·surpasshosting
·Verizon FIOS

Sweet!

There's nothing like the rock-solid reliability of VZ copper!

Although I've trimmed from 3 unlimited copper lines down to only 1 with bare-bones no features, it's still nice to see attempts made at allowing this technology to bow out gracefully.

I plan to keep the remaining copper line I have now for as long as I absolutely can.

DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou
·Charter Pipeline

Re: Sweet!

Yes, copper does have better reliability, but the sound quality is much worse than a cable company's IP-based phone service. The quality difference makes a typical landline sound like a cell phone.
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N3OGH
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
·Verizon FIOS
·Verizon Online DSL

Re: Sweet!

No argument from the peanut gallery..

I went back to POTS due to 911 issues with VoIP. I know things have improved recently, but I'm just not willing to take that chance again.

Living alone, and having a penchant for home improvement activities, I just don't like the idea of holding for 2 minutes for a 911 operator while I bleed to death from a Sawzall accident.
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JTRockville
Data Ho
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join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
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·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·surpasshosting
·Verizon FIOS

Given my experience with the total unreliability and poor quality of cable television and internet, I wouldn't consider using a cable service for anything other than a joke.

My experience with copper voice has always been quite excellent: rock solid reliability and crystal clear quality.
Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

copper voice has moderate quality, but ive never had a corded phone die in a power failure. even in the great 2003 blackout my phone was up the whole time. even after the cell towers ran down.
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ZapperO

join:2001-01-27

Pricing....

I'm in Massachusetts and for the last six months have paid $39.99 for Verizon Freedom Essentials (includes: Home Voice Mail, Caller ID and Call Waiting). For $34.99, I had the alternative of going with just the Verizon Freedom Value (no extra services). For the extra $5/month, I felt those extra features were worthwhile.

It seems from the new pricing news, that in NJ and parts of NY (but not MA), they have simply dropped the Verizon Freedom Value plan by $5 to $29.99. In selected parts of NY, the Verizon Freedom Essentials plan has been dropped by $5 to $34.99.

However, in MA and almost everywhere else in the country... the rates stay the same.

Good news for NJ folks and folks in parts of NY but unfortunately no good news for the rest of us (just more news about something we can't get!)

I wonder if enough pressure was applied, we might be able to get Verizon to provide this fair price to everyone...not just a select few. With the recent victory on Verizon DSL charges, maybe this is within the realm of reason!
backness

join:2005-07-08
K2P OW2

Re: Pricing....

maybe they are just testing the promotion in one area too see if it works out

old_news_here

@verizon.net

nothing to see...

it in a word: SUCKS.

1. NO features?!?
2. Overall higher cost?!? (when you include a $6 fcc line charge!!
3. Did verizon waive the copper installation price? Hell no!

So, to sum up, if you'e never had copper tap to your home, you will pay a pretty penny to install, pay high taxes, and bend over wide just to NOT get service from a competitor?!?
Hmm, I'd pass..
wev567

join:2006-02-25
Pittsburgh, PA

Re: nothing to see...

They *might* take care of the $40 install charge. They do with most other packages. IW is yer own problem, as always...

Rob A
Same Old Jets
Premium
join:2005-01-17
Pompton Plains, NJ

It has been this way for months now

The Verizon Freedom Value plan and Verizon Freedom Essentials plan have been around for months now. Verizon Freedom Value is $29.95/month for unlimited calling, Verizon Freedom Essentials is $39.95/month for unlimited calling + call waiting, caller ID, and home voice mail.

hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs:
·QuantumVoice
·AT&T Southeast
·RoadRunner Cable

Bellsouth...lol

They would never do something like this, they keep complaining and belly aching why they keep losing there people to voip and cable.

All aside on that what would the taxes and fees be 50 bucks a month...lol

bluepoint951

join:2001-03-20
Carrollton, TX

Re: Bellsouth...lol

lol bellsouth has a few plans depening on where you are staring @ $32.95 and working up /w no features... ya gotta press they are out there.... i am on a 2 package plan /w unlimited local/LD, CIDD and CWD, /w Taxes $46.81 a month.
HyPeRbAnD

join:2006-01-07
Stow, MA

Thank you cable co's

for forcing the bells to start lowering their prices. Oh yeah thanks to VoIP over internet provider too.
waiting4fios

join:2005-04-08
Howell, NJ

This is old.

This plan has existed for at least 10 months. It was just never advertised. I'm surprised so many people think that this is new. I've gotten bill inserts with this price on my last several bills.
ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT

This that make ya go.. HMMM

Maybe this voIP endorsing website BBR should starting using the word "comeback" when VoIP lines outnumber landlines. Cya in about 20 years. LOL.

I wonder ... what the chances are that this site will allow IPTV reviews.. and FiOS TV reviews considering they fully promote voIP reviews ? Hmm.. I dont see it happening.

DSLR/BBR = Pro-cable all the way.

Fatal Vector

join:2005-11-26


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Re: This that make ya go.. HMMM


Allways with the "plans" and "bundles". Just get a basic line for peanuts. you dont need their LD.

Just designate one of the "1010" carriers as your primary "dial 1" provider and pay 3-5 cents per minute IF YOU USE IT.

Ma bell (AT&T) will charge you 31 cents a minute for "local long distance" (outside your area code, LATA, or, 20 miles, whichever applies), or, about 26 cents a minute for intra state/interstate long distance.

I'm sure if you look, you will find Verizon, Qwest, Bell South and the rest are ALL the same.

Now you see why they were so hot to get into long distance

Why in hell would you pay them up front for service you dont use to begin with? Bundles are only a deal if you USE AN AMOUNT OF THE SERVICE THAT JUSTIFIES THE MONEY YOU PAY EVERY MONTH. If you dont use a lot of long distance, or, have a cellphone, why would you pay Ma Bell?

And, prices from the telcos will NEVER go down in any meaningfull amount except for limited "special" deals. They will allways have a gimmick of some kind to rip you off.

You bundle loving suckers need to remember that you are dealing with MA Bell. They have been ripping you off for decades and will continue to do so as long as you fall for their bullshit, it's as simple as that.
Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

local long distance is the biggest scam in telecom industry. nowdays the telco owns the whole state so what difference does it make if a call is across down or across the state its going over their lines and routers.
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