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| said by ninjatutle :I had a steady paper route where I peddled around and delivered newspapers. People didn't renew their subscriptions and choose to read the paper in front of their CRT's and I was found obsolete. I then held a job seeking donations for a child abuse charity door to door afterwards. I was surplussed too when online giving grew. Now I hold advertisements on street corners. Carrying a large sign advertising condos at the moment. I would like to see broadband take this away from me Sex sells. | |
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| Re: I lost my job to broad band said by en102 :The state or city by-laws might make your job illegal. There's been a push to ban these in the Santa Clarita area due to their distraction (i.e. sign spinners standing at the corner of intersections). The real people lobbying for those laws are telcos and cablecos. Its an unprecedented merger between the 2 to form a vast comspiracy to put ninjaturtle out of work! | |
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| Re: I lost my job to broad band He's aged a bit and has a fresh set of clothes... -- Where have the adults gone? | |
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 |   Vamp 5c077 Premium join:2003-01-28 MD | What about people that used to resell dialup? they lost their income from that because with broadband they actually need an infrastructure to build on.
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| It Pays to have Broadband is like saying it pays to have a vehicle, after all, we drive both of them every day but how many actually have a license to operate a computer. I've always wondered how many people actually have to wear headsets with the recording of "breathe in and now breathe out, now repeat these steps while you take the headsets off". | |
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| Statistics Ain't they wunnerful?
I notice that they talk about an increase in jobs in the smaller areas because anyone can be an international player with the net (and by inference move to cheaper quarters in the 'sticks'). Where did that work come from? The Internet did not 'magically' create it. Someplace, somewhere, someone lost a job because of the Internet allowed a company to relocate a function to a less expensive area or to access another company in a less expensive area as readily as they did when they all were within walking distance. -- I am not lost, I find myself every time. | |
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join:2005-12-15 Forest Grove, OR | They Have Interchanged Cause and Effect It is the growth in jobs that spurs on broadband useage.
Without jobs a) there is less need for broadband. b) fewer people can afford broadband.
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| Re: They Have Interchanged Cause and Effect said by N O Y B :It is the growth in jobs that spurs on broadband useage. Without jobs a) there is less need for broadband. b) fewer people can afford broadband. Umm, $10 a month DSL? Cheaper than phone service, or are you talking about cable which some people probably can't afford. | |
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3 edits | Re: They Have Interchanged Cause and Effect said by DemonChicken :Umm, $10 a month DSL? Cheaper than phone service, or are you talking about cable which some people probably can't afford. The cheapest DSL from Verizon I see is $15/mo. (price for life) or $18/mo. (one year) for 768/128 Kbps.
It may qualify as an 'always on' connection but broadband is a bit of a stretch.
Who is the provider and what are the details of the $10/mo. package you are citing?
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join:2005-12-15 Forest Grove, OR | Re: They Have Interchanged Cause and Effect Without a job, yes.
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3 edits | Useless Information The Sacramento Regional Research Institute, which investigated the relationship between broadband use, job growth and payroll statewide, found 14,853 new jobs [...]
Whatta complete and utter waste of space. The writer of this byline deserves a thousand lashes with a wet noodle for being so idiotic.
Here is the report in question if anyone is interested in reading it. It's a good thing it's just a .pdf otherwise I'd be wiping my ass with it because that is just about the only thing it's good for. Anyone can make the same rosy claims for just about anything else. Just shake a Magic 8-ball and write the report just like SRRI apparently did.  | |
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| Re: Useless Information Thanks for the link. I skimmed it but do not understand how they arrived at the numbers.
As technology improves Broadband, like electricity, phone, CATV, water, sewer, roads, police, fire, etc become part of the expected infrastructure. I agree communities that are early adopters will gain a temporary advantage but I don't think that will last long. As broadband becomes increasingly integrated into day to day experience it becomes part of the expected infrastructure.
Having said that I agree broadband will increase jobs and reduce energy cost by replacing the need to move "stuff" by moving information. I just have no idea how one can quantify it. It is like asking what increase in European GDP was the result of the printing press. That was a transformative event but I don't see how you can tease out its direct effect until generations later.
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join:2005-06-24 | This Just In! Hot off the presses! Major Marco finds correlation between Magic 8-ball usage and job growth. California to gain "outlook unclear, check back later" percent in new jobs and increased income over the next decade. | |
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  viperpa33s Why Me? Premium join:2002-12-20 Bradenton, FL | Bargaining chip What the study is saying is if it wasn't for AT&T you wouldn't have a job. A bargaining chip that they would use at any type of negotiations. We already see it happen with the state video franchise rights. | |
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