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The link between broadband and business
(old news - 03:26PM Saturday Nov 17 2007)
tags: business · Oddities
We all know that broadband makes it easier to do many jobs. What some people are just starting to discover is that broadband use actually contributes to the creation of a significant number of jobs. A California-based study looked closely at the relationship between job growth and broadband use and found that they are directly correlated.
“The AT&T-commissioned study shows that with a nearly 4 percent annual percentage point increase in adults using broadband, the state could see a net cumulative gain of 1.8 million jobs and $132 billion in payroll over the next decade.”
California broadband use has tripled in the last 6 years resulting in a multi-billion dollar increase in statewide payroll. The growth of jobs resulting from the benefits of broadband is expected to continue with Los Angeles seeing the most profit in California.

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ninjatutle
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I lost my job to broad band

I had a steady paper route where I peddled around and delivered newspapers. People didn't renew their subscriptions and choose to read the paper in front of their CRT's and I was found obsolete.

I then held a job seeking donations for a child abuse charity door to door afterwards. I was surplussed too when online giving grew.

Now I hold advertisements on street corners. Carrying a large sign advertising condos at the moment. I would like to see broadband take this away from me

Quake110

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Re: I lost my job to broad band

I guess it's time to think about another career? You can't stop advancement...

MadDog3057
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You need a new line of work.

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said by ninjatutle See Profile :

I had a steady paper route where I peddled around and delivered newspapers. People didn't renew their subscriptions and choose to read the paper in front of their CRT's and I was found obsolete.

I then held a job seeking donations for a child abuse charity door to door afterwards. I was surplussed too when online giving grew.

Now I hold advertisements on street corners. Carrying a large sign advertising condos at the moment. I would like to see broadband take this away from me
Sex sells.

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said by ninjatutle See Profile :

Now I hold advertisements on street corners. Carrying a large sign advertising condos at the moment. I would like to see broadband take this away from me
Ok, you need to start looking for another gig. My company is currently working on a holographic emitter that will be placed on a street corner and will produce a three-dimensional image of a person carrying a sign. The content will transmitted via wireless broadband.

Sorry.
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The state or city by-laws might make your job illegal.
There's been a push to ban these in the Santa Clarita area due to their distraction (i.e. sign spinners standing at the corner of intersections).
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Re: I lost my job to broad band

said by en102 See Profile :

The state or city by-laws might make your job illegal.
There's been a push to ban these in the Santa Clarita area due to their distraction (i.e. sign spinners standing at the corner of intersections).
The real people lobbying for those laws are telcos and cablecos. Its an unprecedented merger between the 2 to form a vast comspiracy to put ninjaturtle out of work!

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Re: I lost my job to broad band

He's aged a bit and has a fresh set of clothes...
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said by ninjatutle See Profile :

Now I hold advertisements on street corners. Carrying a large sign advertising condos at the moment. I would like to see broadband take this away from me
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What about people that used to resell dialup? they lost their income from that because with broadband they actually need an infrastructure to build on.

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dougdonovan

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It Pays to have Broadband is like saying it pays to have a vehicle, after all, we drive both of them every day but how many actually have a license to operate a computer. I've always wondered how many people actually have to wear headsets with the recording of "breathe in and now breathe out, now repeat these steps while you take the headsets off".

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RayW
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Statistics

Ain't they wunnerful?

I notice that they talk about an increase in jobs in the smaller areas because anyone can be an international player with the net (and by inference move to cheaper quarters in the 'sticks'). Where did that work come from? The Internet did not 'magically' create it. Someplace, somewhere, someone lost a job because of the Internet allowed a company to relocate a function to a less expensive area or to access another company in a less expensive area as readily as they did when they all were within walking distance.
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They Have Interchanged Cause and Effect


It is the growth in jobs that spurs on broadband useage.

Without jobs a) there is less need for broadband. b) fewer people can afford broadband.

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Re: They Have Interchanged Cause and Effect

said by N O Y B See Profile :


It is the growth in jobs that spurs on broadband useage.

Without jobs a) there is less need for broadband. b) fewer people can afford broadband.

Umm, $10 a month DSL? Cheaper than phone service, or are you talking about cable which some people probably can't afford.

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said by DemonChicken See Profile :

Umm, $10 a month DSL? Cheaper than phone service, or are you talking about cable which some people probably can't afford.
The cheapest DSL from Verizon I see is $15/mo. (price for life) or $18/mo. (one year) for 768/128 Kbps.

It may qualify as an 'always on' connection but broadband is a bit of a stretch.

Who is the provider and what are the details of the $10/mo. package you are citing?


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There are places where DSL isn't available yet cable is. There are also probably places where the opposite is true although I've yet to observe this. So, those people can't get the $10-$20/mo. DSL.

But, is paying $70/mo. really that hard? It's roughly the cost of a POTS line (with CID, unmetered domestic calls, and cheaper international calling).

If someone can't afford $70/mo., then that person has a lot of problems and can't afford to live.

I'm not saying you should pay $70/mo. if something that's $30/mo. is "good enough" and available, but is $70/mo. really too much?

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Re: They Have Interchanged Cause and Effect


Without a job, yes.


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Does it?

The most important part of this story:

"The AT&T-commissioned study"

benc
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Re: Does it?

I was thinking the exact same thing.

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St. John 3.16

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Re: Does it?


Ditto!


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Useless Information

The Sacramento Regional Research Institute, which investigated the relationship between broadband use, job growth and payroll statewide, found 14,853 new jobs [...]


Whatta complete and utter waste of space. The writer of this byline deserves a thousand lashes with a wet noodle for being so idiotic.

Here is the report in question if anyone is interested in reading it. It's a good thing it's just a .pdf otherwise I'd be wiping my ass with it because that is just about the only thing it's good for. Anyone can make the same rosy claims for just about anything else. Just shake a Magic 8-ball and write the report just like SRRI apparently did.

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Re: Useless Information

Thanks for the link. I skimmed it but do not understand how they arrived at the numbers.

As technology improves Broadband, like electricity, phone, CATV, water, sewer, roads, police, fire, etc become part of the expected infrastructure. I agree communities that are early adopters will gain a temporary advantage but I don't think that will last long. As broadband becomes increasingly integrated into day to day experience it becomes part of the expected infrastructure.

Having said that I agree broadband will increase jobs and reduce energy cost by replacing the need to move "stuff" by moving information. I just have no idea how one can quantify it. It is like asking what increase in European GDP was the result of the printing press. That was a transformative event but I don't see how you can tease out its direct effect until generations later.

/tom

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This Just In!

Hot off the presses! Major Marco finds correlation between Magic 8-ball usage and job growth. California to gain "outlook unclear, check back later" percent in new jobs and increased income over the next decade.

viperpa33s
Why Me?
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Bargaining chip

What the study is saying is if it wasn't for AT&T you wouldn't have a job. A bargaining chip that they would use at any type of negotiations. We already see it happen with the state video franchise rights.
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