  wintell564
@optonline.net | HughesNet sux wow why can't HughesNet afford one or two of those satellites
this totally sux we(USA) are 3rd world | |
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join:2006-01-02 San Ramon, CA | Re: HughesNet sux I'm glad to hear the test were A-Ok. I was starting to get a little worried  | |
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join:2001-09-25 Memphis, TN | With speeds like that........ FAP would be soooooo cruel. You would reach it in less than 30 minutes....lol. Still, this just goes to show how a lot of people are getting the short end of the stick when it comes to this type of service in America. | |
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join:2000-11-21 | Time will tell We will see if it will work any better than Wildblue or Hughesnet...... | |
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  gate1975mlm Premium join:2001-09-30 Philadelphia, PA | This makes comcast seem like dial up! :( I hope someday soon we will see speeds like that in the USA! | |
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 |   DrModem Premium join:2006-10-19 USA | Re: This makes comcast seem like dial up! :( Only on speeds. On ping time (which you need for doing anything fun), it makes dialup look glorious. | |
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join:2003-12-20 Ottawa, ON 2 edits | Re: This makes comcast seem like dial up! :( But if you're someone living in the middle of nowhere and isn't a gamer, the pings wouldn't make a difference as long as you get the speed! | |
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 |  Warez_Zealot Rural land of the rising sun
join:2006-04-19 japan
| said by gate1975mlm :I hope someday soon we will see speeds like that in the USA! But population density isn't high enough for satellite in the USA.[sarcasm] | |
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join:2001-12-02 Hyattsville, MD | Re: Japan's Super Satellite. I'm moving to Japan. | |
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join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA
| Wow... That's really impressive, especially for satellite... though, 155/6 has to be among the least symmetric plans out there.
Though, I notice this is JAXA, a Japanese government agency, behind the proposal... cue the "free market" people, I guess. | |
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@verizon.com | Re: Wow... 155mbps is great......but really when your talking 1200 - 1400ms of latency does it really matter?
I'd rather have better latency then speed..........without good latency you really have nothing. | |
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| Re: Wow... Actually I'd like to see this as a way to deliver large content where latency is not an issue. If we could work out QOS methods where downloads and such were put on high latency paths then more interactive content could be handled on the low latency paths. | |
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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY | Re: Wow... Perhaps dialup? | |
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join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA
| Well it depends on what you're doing- if you're just viewing webpages and downloading files latency isn't a huge issue, but when you get into real-time things it does become one... hm, isn't online gaming very popular in Japan? That would probably injure this product. | |
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 |   rcdailey Dragoonfly Premium join:2005-03-29 Rialto, CA | Maybe there is Japanese Self-Defense Force interest in this satellite? Having broadband available even after a major earthquake could be useful to more than just the general public. | |
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join:2007-12-29 Creston, WV
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| Re: Wow... said by Portmonkey :Something like this could make living in the sticks a whole new ballgame. Yeah like owning noobs on multiplayer. ahh man I can't wait. | |
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join:2001-06-18 Washington, DC | 6Mbit up is more than you can get from anything around here except FIOS. | |
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join:2007-03-10 Bon Aqua, TN
| Pricing would be retarded It wouldn't matter if we did have it here in the U.S.. Somehow a damn oil refinery will have a light bulb go out and it would sky rocket the prices of the satellite access.. Don't ask me how, but the lame ass excuse's company's come up with to restrict and bump up fees is nearly insane...No.. No it is insane!! | |
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join:2004-09-29 Renton, WA | japan wow with all the news that japan has been getting recently makes me want to find a job in japan so i can tap into some of that 100MB stuff  | |
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| Re: japan said by gsm8 :wow with all the news that japan has been getting recently makes me want to find a job in japan so i can tap into some of that 100MB stuff Go ahead, I suspect that you will find the trade offs to not be worth it, assuming you are not a big city ant hill resident already. Although, high speed and good food.....makes it almost worth it except I have been over there and I will take Qwest 1.5/1 service and my house over 100/? and the ant hills most people in my income bracket live in over there. -- I am not lost, I find myself every time. | |
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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY
| Re: Yeah but said by MrMoody :How many connections can run 155 Mb and 1.2 Gb before the bird is saturated and no one gets that any more? Only so much data will fit through a radio link that has limited licensed radio bandwidth ... it's not like it's tethered by fiber or something. It can be if the satellite is tied to the earth through centripetal force. | |
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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY
| Re: Yeah but Should have included a line about the space elevator in my OP. But then its not flame bait.
Your right. Radio gets expensive when you have to split "cells", just as with cable tv nodes. There is some hope in wireless through using unconventional bands, MIMO and its friends, and higher transmit powers. | |
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| Re: Yeah but Ah, one of the wishful thinkers.
said by patcat88 :Your right. Radio gets expensive when you have to split "cells", just as with cable tv nodes. Yes, but the difference is, a cable node (or DSL RT) can have fiber run to it, be wired in many branches from there to homes as needed, and thus a single node can carry MAGNITUDES more data than any radio transceiver, which has to operate in limited licensed bands competing with all other radio services, and the only way to use the same frequency for more than one subscriber from the same radio location is to try to make it directional or polarized. Tricks like these and MIMO transmission etc only give a relatively small boost in capacity and don't help the fundamental problems much.
Wireless broadband must ALWAYS be expensive, slow or FAP limited, much more so than cable or DSL, because of the above. This is a physical limitation of the topology and can't be wished (or even geniused) away. -- The public is a poor business manager. | |
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join:2000-10-14 Samsara | Oversubscribing much? I haven't seen any mention of the total capacity of this satellite. It's not so impressive if each of those 155Mbps to 1.2Gbps links are all sharing the same 1.2Gbps maximum capacity. | |
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join:2007-09-28 Colfax, CA | Not too bad ping. The ping on this would only be 600-700ms possibly 500ms. The reason most satellite internet providers are around 1200ms is because THEY INTENTIONALLY CAUSE THIS BY TRAFFIC SHIFTING...even worst than Comcast. | |
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join:2005-12-09 49533 | Re: Not too bad ping. Have you found a way to transmit data faster than the speed of light? | |
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join:2007-09-28 Colfax, CA
| Re: Not too bad ping. WOW, did you even read my post? the ping for satilite is around 500-700ms-thats going at the speed of light. Wildblue uses traffic shifting, because this traffic shifting involves examining and prioritizing each protocol. THIS ADDS 400ms to 700ms of LAG ON THE SYSTEM.
Please read before you post nonsense. | |
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  ureihcim Freshly made
join:2007-12-16 Miami, FL
| ! Latency will be the same. Now the biggest advancement I see here is that radios on both ends can communicate at such rates over satellite. Now since this seems to be able to have multiple uplinks and downlinks, I suppose there are multiple channels in place a few khz apart in order to achieve those speeds.
Capacity depends on what type of hardware placed on the satellite by NICT »www.nict.go.jp/index.html -- michieru.ath.cx | |
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join:2006-04-24 Fort Lauderdale, FL | Impressive The US should look into this technology. Might be useful for more remote area's in the USA.
ps: in b4 'population density' crap | |
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  DoctorDoom Troll hunter Premium join:2006-09-19 Becket, MA
| It might be 155 Mbps now, but wait a while The satellite is new, with few users. Let's see what the bitrate is when 10,000 or so people are online watching streaming video, downloading pirated movies, etc. It sure as hell won't be 155 Mbps.
Driving on the Interstate at 3:00 AM is pleasant, but during rush hour ... | |
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