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New infrastructure plans in place
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According to Japan’s Minister of Communications, the country is at work on a new generation of network infrastructure that will effectively create a new Internet to replace the existing World Wide Web. Reportedly, the network will be more stable, with better bandwidth and stronger security. The Department of Communications is currently seeking nearly 8 billion yen to develop the infrastructure which they hope to have in place by 2020.

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MysticGogeta
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Well I would have doubts if it was US but Japan might do it

I wonder if they will get something done, I'm a little optimistic because it is Japan after all.
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wvcaver
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Re: Well I would have doubts if it was US but Japan might do it

they will get it done !
ShadezeRO

join:2006-04-24
Fort Lauderdale, FL
I agree, better then ATT coming up with a new internet ..

Quake110

join:2003-12-20
Ottawa, ON
For all their technologies creations... I'm positive that they will do it. We're talking about Japan here.
jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA

Re: Well I would have doubts if it was US but Japan might do it

Huh?
They don't typically create technologies. They do however take something and make it better.

MysticGogeta
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Re: Well I would have doubts if it was US but Japan might do it

Yes and since the internet is working now I think they will be able to accomplish this.
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Maarvin
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Denver, CO
Well, lets see then. If Japan plans to get this thing working by 2020, then the US should have it promoted sometime by the end of the century.
ShadezeRO

join:2006-04-24
Fort Lauderdale, FL

Re: Well I would have doubts if it was US but Japan might do it

...You must be talking about the "Ideal" situations.

USA will still be saying " Copper is still good! "

by the end of the century.

MysticGogeta
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Re: Well I would have doubts if it was US but Japan might do it

AT&T definatly will.

vpoko
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Even if they start their own internet...

...The US will still try to control name and number assignment.

pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD

Re: Even if they start their own internet...

U-S-A! U-S-A!

assfarts

@bell.ca
"If y'all don't like our internet, you kin git out"
"Sure American-san, we make our own, enjoy your tentacle-rape free internet"

juicelee
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Re: Even if they start their own internet...

Should be "een-tah-neyt"
NormanS
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Re: Even if they start their own internet...

said by juicelee See Profile :

Should be "een-tah-neyt"
More like インタネット (een-tah-nettoh).
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Norman
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calvoiper

join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA

TLD suggestions....

May I suggest the following Top Level Domains:

.kaga
.akagi
.hiryu
.soryu

calvoiper
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NormanS
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Re: TLD suggestions....

I'd add:

.musashi[1]
.yamato[2]

[1] After famous 16th century Samurai, Miyamoto Musashi, who also wrote a book on strategy and tactics: "Go Rin no Sho" ("The Book of Five Rings").

[2] Used much as "Columbia" was used as a poetic reference to the U.S.A in the late 19th century. It is the classic, ancient name for Japan. Refers to the period of the "Great Kings" ("Yamato"), dating back to A.D. 300, when Japan just covered southern Honshu (up to the cities of Nara and Osaka).

»www.wsu.edu/~dee/ANCJAPAN/YAMATO.HTM

And you thought they were just super-Dreadnaughts!
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bmn
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said by vpoko See Profile :

...The US will still try to control name and number assignment.
Hopefully that changes with IPv6, which is probably what this "new world wide web" will use.
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DataDoc
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Has Al Gore heard about this?

They better check with him first.
xo

join:2007-06-15
Perry, FL

Re: Has Al Gore heard about this?

how original.

DataDoc
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Re: Has Al Gore heard about this?

How observant.
rkreider

join:2007-08-13
New Philadelphia, OH

spam

Does this mean that I'll have to remove my /8s from JP based networks because it will BE the internet?

LaZ3R
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·Rogers Hi-Speed

Interesting...

I'd like to see how it plays out , I look forward to seeing what they accomplish by 2020 in terms of this new "network infrastructure."
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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

someone will ruin it..

wait until spammers, scammers and others get a hold of it,
if it's open to the general public, it won't take much to muck it up plenty..

BTW, what good is a non-internet network if you don't have access to internet content?

Huh, go figure..

FiL
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Silver Spring, MD

Re: someone will ruin it..

easy fix for that:

Don't let the US fuck with that network...
We Microsoft EVERYTHING we touch...
Its the 'murrikan dream afterall!

Transmaster
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Cheyenne, WY
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Al Gore Strikes again


exocet_cm
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Oh, Good!

That means I can ban only ONE network IP instead of many!

Will the "New Internet" be backwards compatible with the current "Internet"?

slashman
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Re: Oh, Good!

They are doing this to Godzilla proof their interwebs.
bmn
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Talk about a lack of detail...

I have never seen an article so scant on details... It leaves a whole load of questions unanswered, like...

How will this be an improvement over the current design?

What types of enhancements are we going to see to performance, security, etc.?

Is this merely a new physical network (bigger, faster pipes), a rewrite of IP or a whole new set of applications/protocols?
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Prove it...
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MrAnon

@verizon.net

Re: Talk about a lack of detail...

I agree, I think this article is crap. Just trying to drum up hits so they can get paid. How about this:

Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie propose a new internet protocol IPv7. They say it will be "hotter" than the other versions. Unfortunatley the higher bandwidth might leave them totaly exposed to in depth probes.

fcisler
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Riverhead, NY

Internet

See....in Japan, they are shorter.

Shorter people + lube + straighter tubes = faster internet!

You know the internet cafes? Pfft....japan's got TUBE cafe's!

For an extra 5 yen, they spray you with the teflon lube!

Nothing quite like surfin the J-Net spraying a can of krisco to make you reach the 100m(ph)!

Now...though....you lil' children stay away from the BLACK tubes! dirty things go on in there....nude people all getting their routing on! Oh....think of the children!!!

[/stupid sarcasm off!]
amungus
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so....

So, does this mean they're going to re-invent the entire TCP/IP protocol suite? What exactly are they changing??? "Infrastructure" is a pretty vast term.

Guess you can never have enough bandwidth.

MooJohn

join:2005-12-18
Milledgeville, GA
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Self-fulfilling prophecy

Isn't it kind of a given that the technology of the web will be better and more secure in another 12 years using existing upgrade plans?

This isn't a situation where you can say "On this day we'll throw the switch and you'll be using the 'new' internet," any more so than they could roll out a new highway system without integrating it with the existing roads.
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funchords
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You can't re-write the Internet

The Internet is already a hodge-podge of different networks that are linked together. That's how it has been since its creation. Just read the oldest RFCs and it will become clear to everyone.

So what do they really mean -- that they're going to create a really big LAN/MAN/WAN that is not connected to the Internet? That it will use something different than IP? That they're going to replace or enhance the core protocols of ftp/http/smtp/pop/etc.?? None of those things would be re-writing the Internet. You're supposed to improve it as it grows and ages!!
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FiL
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Re: You can't re-write the Internet

And here we are, commenting on an article that doesn't tell us a damn thing about "what" exactly their "changing".

Bloomfart

@comcast.net

We're # 7!! or 8 or so

My country spent all it's money on bombs and subsidizing telecoms.

a333
A hot cup of integrals please

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Rego Park, NY

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Re: We're # 7!! or 8 or so

grrreat, now you can get that nude movie on ur pc faster than your grandma can say, "porn"
Zerny

join:2007-05-04
Fort Gratiot, MI

Re: We're # 7!! or 8 or so

said by a333 See Profile :

grrreat, now you can get that nude movie on ur pc faster than your grandma can say, "porn"
Great if the Japanese are running it will all the porn block out the Faces and Genitals of just the males?

a333
A hot cup of integrals please

join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY

Re: We're # 7!! or 8 or so

ROTFL, man!!!

mea culpa

join:2006-10-23

gud news

gud news bt why are they waiting till 2020.

PhoenixAZ
Joshua
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Phoenix, AZ

No Windows.

Japan can just choose to ban Windows from their new internet, and have it Mac/Linux/UNIX only ...I wish, Lol.
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mea culpa

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Re: No Windows.

any reason why do they ban windows (particularly)

FIRST

@ameritech.net

FIRST

Who will be first to post "FIRST!!!"
godprince

join:2002-01-03
Vallejo, CA

huh??

$68 million Dollars.
should put 2 guys to work for the whole 12 years...........

lt_wentoncha
Red6

join:2002-05-12
000000

Internet2?

So then what's this?

»www.internet2.edu/

Lumberjack
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Newport News, VA

Re: Internet2?

said by lt_wentoncha See Profile :

So then what's this?

»www.internet2.edu/
Yeah, everybody's all pro-Japan here when it's already been done in the US via Internet2. GG tards.
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captnhook

join:2001-02-20
NY

Sushi-Net

If they can eliminate the pungent fish odor they might actually have something...

Old_Grouch
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Suppose we'll have new strategy at NTT?

In best announcer voice:

NTT announced today that company hired new chairman following retirement from most humble American telrephone company. Most honorable new chairman, Eddiko Whitakerson, declared that new internet best when deliver onry to new refridgerator-size boxes at curb or in front yards.

Savings from not taking infrastructure all way to door of home will fund second retirement account and new golf clubs.

Ahhh - - so sorry. Some things simply can not be resisted.
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