 amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
clubs:
| duh nah, I'd rather have dsl...
that would make sense they're the only market in the world like that... wish we had more fiber options here. I'll never forget a little flyer mailed out about 5, 6 years ago that said "we're installing fiber, you will have access to it soon" ..little did we expect that it was to be shared, turned into coax, and shared with everyone to the point of overloaded nodes and bandwidth hogs everywhere. | |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | pitiful so not only is the U.S. installing at a much lower rate, the stuff they are installing is already "old technology".
No wonder the U.S. is 16th and falling. | |
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join:2006-03-02
Bronx, NY
| Re: pitiful BPON is easily upgraded to GPON or GEPON so its really not a big deal. The US does not need those higher speeds produced by GPON or GEPON at this time (BPON speeds theoretically max out at 600 mgbits while GPON is well over a GIG) but when the time is right the upgrades will be swift. To deploy the big guns now would be a waste of resources, progression is the key in buisnesses of all natures. | |
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| silica
join:2004-05-20
Duluth, GA | Actually, Verizon installed about the same amount of fiber in 2005 as the entire country of Japan. | |
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nivago
Think For Yourself
join:2000-11-16
Little Rock, AR | Re: pitiful excellent point | |
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USA-1776
@cox.net
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TheGiant 
| This is typical response from someone who went through a school system run by "teachers union" always reflexively against US and always whining. | |
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Techie714
join:2005-08-02
Anaheim, CA
 ·ViaTalk
|  Expected!
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| iotastorm
join:2006-01-24
Florissant, MO
 ·AT&T DSL Service
| Re: Expected! Well lets look at this. You have Japan most of whose population is located in dense Urban areas and multi-dwelling buildings. Its really easier to hook these up you put a DSLAM unit in the basement to connect 100's or more people at a time, run an optic link to the local office. Got a building with a lot of people in it? throw a dslam in and run an optic to it. Piece of cake.
We Americans generally like our space. We're spread-out. there are a bit more technical limitations to running things out to each home (except in the denser Urban areas in apartment buildings, we could throw dslams in there) | |
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Kompressor
Premium
join:2002-02-12
Huntington Beach, CA | Re: Expected! I'm so sick of hearing that argument.
If what you say is true, big citys like New York would be all 100mbps symmetric fiber. | |
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join:2003-02-14
Culver City, CA
| [sarcasm] That must explain why Verizon only offers FIOS to suburban houses, not to dense Urban areas and multi-dwelling buildings. [/sarcasm] The fiber itself is cheap and town-to-town fiber is easy. Installing in dense urban areas is costly and hard. Japan is way, way ahead of the U.S. | |
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join:2006-01-24
Florissant, MO | Re: Expected! As I understand it, that is what Japan and other Far Eastern areas ARE doing, I didn't say WE were doing it. It might make sense to do it that way. | |
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WileEC
mindtaker, macky cat, etc.
join:2002-02-07
Yonkers, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
3 edits | no duh? Of course! The whole of Japan is about the size of California. They don't have anywheres near the logistic problems or cost of laying fiber throughout a country the size of the USA. A good amount of that land mass is mountains. Their urban population is very densely packed (it's a dense pack!  ) The average Japanese dwelling is so tiny that most Americans would never want to voluntarily live with similar space confinement... and with multiple people! It's not uncommon for whole families live in one tiny apartment. Given that density, of course more of their population will have access to fiber. And since when was access to fiber a race between nations? What's the point? Wow, they can download porn faster. Gee.
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
| Re: no duh? Technically doesn't that make it all the more pathetic that they contributed to 80% of the world's growth? (If you're going to play the geography card) How many people in California have fiber-to-the home? The geography argument only floats in penetration arguments, and even then, not very well (Canada leads us, etc.) | |
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WileEC
mindtaker, macky cat, etc.
join:2002-02-07
Yonkers, NY
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: no duh? Well, actually, I guess it's great if you want to live in an apartment the size of a refrigerator in Japan, just as long as you have access to fiber. Right? The grass is not always greener. Those numbers don't tell the whole story.
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53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | If I could get like a gigabit connection for cheap? I sure would. just hook it into my veins!!! | |
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join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC
1 edit | said by Minister :Technically doesn't that make it all the more pathetic that they contributed to 80% of the world's growth? (If you're going to play the geography card) How many people in California have fiber-to-the home? The geography argument only floats in penetration arguments, and even then, not very well (Canada leads us, etc.) Population of Japan: 127.4 million
Population of California: 33.8 million
Just a tad bit of difference there density wise vs. land mass... 4:1 ratio | |
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Speedy8
Premium
join:2002-08-22
Alliance, OH
clubs: | Re: no duh? Yeah, but what about metro areas? Obviously they aren't gonna wire rural areas first. | |
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
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Population of Japan: 127.4 million
Population of California: 33.8 million
Just a tad bit of difference there density wise vs. land mass... 4:1 ratio
There are people in Brooklyn who can't get DSL. How does this telco "geography" excuse that pops up all the time from you BellSouth employees account for the gaps in coverage? | |
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BIGMIKE
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Westminster, CA
1 edit | said by WileEC :Of course! The whole of Japan is about the size of California. They don't have anywheres near the logistic problems or cost of laying fiber throughout a country the size of the USA. A good amount of that land mass is mountains. Their urban population is very densely packed (it's a dense pack! ) The average Japanese dwelling is so tiny that most Americans would never want to voluntarily live with similar space confinement... and with multiple people! It's not uncommon for whole families live in one tiny apartment. Given that density, of course more of their population will have access to fiber. And since when was access to fiber a race between nations? What's the point? Wow, they can download porn faster. Gee. Japan | |
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jipanime
| Get it right! Anime is the pr0n of Japan.
GigabitAnimePr0n! | |
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Otukare Good Bye
@comcast.net
| Move To Japan Problem Solved If you feel your life and worth to society is lacking because of your lack of FTTH, easy solution. See above subject line. Good bye, so long enjoy your hot Rice bowl, Fish Soup, Chop Sticks and small table.
Otukare ~ | |
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alchav
join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
|  Japan is Decades ahead in Technology!
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blueeyesm
join:2003-09-05
Waterloo, ON | The flag ...needs outlining.
Nice red dot tho - I was wondering at first w.t.h. it had to do with the story.
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here
| The old cherry picking business Imagine if the telco's and cable companies had ports that were guaranteed money makers. Imagine if they had these ports all year long for a couple decades. They'd have quite a bit of cash and low risk.
So yea, if we cut of all network funding for any municipality considered rural. Not one dime spent there... we'd have the best network in the world.
It's the CLEC business model. Get the good customers and let Bell have the revenue losers. Well it's kind of hard to get the plant builders to build plant when they don't get the prime cuts. | |
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Japan's Booming FTTH Market
