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Court rules in favor of AV firm in latest semantic lawsuit...
(old news - 09:06AM Thursday Aug 30 2007)
tags: legal · business · spyware
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For many years, we've written some highly critical reports about Spyware vendors, some of whom would then e-mail us asking us to stop referring to their product as Spyware. Claria Corporation was perhaps the worst offender in this regard, threatening to sue anyone (AV Vendors or the press) who called their Gator spyware what it actually was.

It has all been part of a massive attempt by the spyware industry to hoist some kind of pseudo-legitimacy on a sector that spent almost a decade trampling user rights and privacy. As part of this push, Zango (formerly 180Solutions) recently sued Kaspersky over using the Spyware tag, but a court has dismissed the lawsuit:
"In the latest ruling on one of these cases (in which Zango sued Kaspersky), the ruling makes it clear we already have such a law on the books. The judge dismissed the lawsuit, noting that security firms have every right to label software as they see fit, citing part of section 230 of the Communications Decency Act."
Specifically, the court ruled that AV companies are protected under statute 47 USC 230(c)(2), which defines the AV vendor as an interactive computer service provider and immune to such semantic lawsuits by the spy-infectious-disease-spew-ware industry.

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Anon00
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join:2001-09-25
Spring Valley, CA

Glad Kasperksy fought back

And didn't automatically cave on the threat of a lawsuit. Blasted spyware companies.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... you know the rest
ender7074

join:2006-11-21
Saint Louis, MO

Re: Glad Kasperksy fought back

Oooo Oooo I know! It's a dog right?

FiL
Premium
join:2005-08-16
Silver Spring, MD

Re: Glad Kasperksy fought back

nooo you friggin' moron. It's a silver back gorilla!

duh!

I say eff these spyware companies...and thank you for keeping me in business with the phrase "uhoh'z!!! You'z got spyware sir client!"

You know we all do that.

benecewicz
Premium
join:2005-04-08
Parkville, MD
I hope not.... Michael Vick will probably kill it...

jpeckinp
Are We There Yet?

join:2002-11-17
Schaumburg, IL
Wrong! It's a Witch.

inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK

Bwahahahahahaha.....YOU LOSE

This is awesome. Now hopefully these leeches will go the way of the dodo bird.
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jester121

join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL

Re: Bwahahahahahaha.....YOU LOSE

Yeah, because we all know that name-calling accomplishes a lot.
zipjay

join:2003-03-11
Louisville, KY

HAHA!

so now the only thing they can do is pay off kaspersky to keep them from blocking them

en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

Re: HAHA!

Unfortunately... I think companies have done that in the past.
Spyware/Adware companies have become bed buddies with AV vendors.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ

said by zipjay See Profile :

so now the only thing they can do is pay off kaspersky to keep them from blocking them
Well if ad-aware takes bribes why not kaspersky too
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exocet_cm
Signal 26's Rock
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join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
clubs:

Kick Some A$$

Good going Kaspersky!

StraitShoot
Who Loves Ya Baby? - Theo Kojak
Premium
join:2003-02-08
Clinton, MA

Kaspersky isn't as "Holy" as they act...

Kaspersky also is a leader in the "Dirty Tricks" department...

Noah Vail
Serial Thread Killer
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Lorton, VA
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Oh Yea!

I just hate it when I buy their AV software,
and then it goes and scans my system for viruses,
and then sometimes it finds some viruses and cleans them up.

That's tricky, let me tell you.

And my keyboard is all crappy and nasty,
dirty, I'd call it.

Yea, this whole Kaspersky thing is tricky and dirty, allright.

NV
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Grail Knight
Who Dares Wins
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Erie, PA
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edit:
August 30th, @11:26AM

Re: Kaspersky isn't as "Holy" as they act...

quote:
Kaspersky also is a leader in the "Dirty Tricks" department...
Such as..? Forget it most know of your Kaspersky issues by now. Other vendors to choose from.

WTG Kaspersky for calling it like it is.
Work on the CS now.

Feel better now?

Edit* Changed smiley.

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dliw
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said by StraitShoot See Profile :

Kaspersky also is a leader in the "Dirty Tricks" department...
Please elaborate for those of us not "in the know".
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Grail Knight
Who Dares Wins
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Erie, PA

Re: Kaspersky isn't as "Holy" as they act...

This is what you want.

»Kaspersky, You lost me at ISwift..
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dliw
Running Dog
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Re: Kaspersky isn't as "Holy" as they act...

Thank you Grail Knight See Profile. As for that issue I have no experience with it and so shall not comment on it.

Grail Knight
Who Dares Wins
Premium
join:2003-05-31
Erie, PA

Re: Kaspersky isn't as "Holy" as they act...

Your welcome.

badcat

join:2000-10-18
Glastonbury, CT

Yes!

Way to Kaspersky!

dadkins
Land of Confusion
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA

LOL!

OWNED!

Kaspersky kicks ass!

Transmaster
Onward Through The Fog

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY


edit:
August 30th, @11:20AM

What a minute......

This decision is fantastic but in reading it I see a possible problem.

"However, the court points out that the statute clearly says that it's for what the service provider finds objectionable. In other words, the content in question need not be "objectionable" at all -- it only matters what the service provider feels about it. This is a pretty strong endorsement for the idea that security companies absolutely can call software whatever they feel is appropriate."

with this decision what is there to keep Comcast, Qwest, or Verizon who are service providers from finding Skype, consumer sites with information these providers do not like, bit-torrent, streaming radio, or whatever "objectionable"
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rideboarder
welcome to the social
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Snohomish, WA
clubs:

Re: LOL!

couldn't agree more, eventhough my brother works for Zango...

MrMoody
Beleaguered Middle Class

join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC

Pro Consumer

A pro consumer law? How did that get in there? Thank you Chris Cox (R) and Ron Wyden (D).

BurnInHELL

@comcast.net

The only good Spyware purveyor is a very DEAD...

...Spyware purveyor !

People who write and distribute Spyware are the scum of the earth and deserve to burn in HELL,IMNHO.

hitman_001
Premium
join:2006-11-20
Laredo, TX

Re: The only good Spyware purveyor is a very DEAD...

This clearly shows that the spyware industry doesnt have enough lobbyists.... Yet.

wtg kapersky
Fammoney

join:2003-05-29
Harrisburg, PA

Re: The only good Spyware purveyor is a very DEAD...

said by hitman_001 See Profile :

This clearly shows that the spyware industry doesnt have enough lobbyists.... Yet.

wtg kapersky
LMAO! How very true.
elleroth

join:2002-02-18
Orlando, FL

said by hitman_001 See Profile :

This clearly shows that the spyware industry doesnt have enough lobbyists.... Yet.
Or maybe US congressmen hate spyware spam as much as everyone else? ;D

JammerMan79
Premium,VIP
join:2004-05-13
Prince George, BC
do I actually agree with Taylor??? It can't be true!
unixwolf

join:2007-05-04
Flower Mound, TX

gator sucks

This is soooo funny.. I hate gator with a passion. My adopted grandpa used to use that garbage until I installed McAfee on his system and McAfee deleted gator.. He was pissed. I laughed. I then introduced him to RoboForm... Much better.. No ads..

AB
Premium
join:2006-04-04
Leesburg, VA

Whew! Close one!

Thought I was going to have to start searching for 'Anti-Featureware' programs there for a minute!

cork1958
Cork

join:2000-02-26
Fruitport, MI

Says it all

"immune to such semantic lawsuits by the spy-infectious-disease-spew-ware industry."

Yeah baby,
That says it all.
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