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i hope la wins!haha to twc
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Re: i hope la wins!While I'm all in favor of holding TW accountable, they'll just "pay" for this lawsuit through increased cable rates. TW will have the last laugh. | |
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| | Dogfather Premium Member join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA |
Re: i hope la wins!It will come out of their huge margins. | |
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Re: i hope la wins!said by Dogfather:It will come out of their huge margins. By a weird combination, I have to agree with you AND djrobx. It should come out of their margins but they'll probably just lube up their customers and bend them over yet again. | |
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Re: i hope la wins!I don't think so. The penalties are likely cheaper than the attention of a price increase and revamping materials.
They'll just pay the dough and continue shuffling management given things are already improving (according to these news reports).
If they just raise prices in response to the franchise authority it will just bring another and much bigger response from the franchise authority. | |
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said by djrobx:While I'm all in favor of holding TW accountable, they'll just "pay" for this lawsuit through increased cable rates. TW will have the last laugh. Yes. The only winners would be the law firms on both sides that would drag this out in the court for years. | |
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Re: i hope la wins!That is unless TWC actually fixes their problems. | |
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And customers get a coupon for so much off a month or a free product/service for a few months. No big deal. | |
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I was one of the unfortunate ones that got switched from comcast to crapwarner. I hate crapwarner, I'm about to go to satelite... | |
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Re: i hope la wins!I had zero problem with TW in Temescal Valley, but Comcast was the worst. They raised my video HSI rates 30%, latency was 500ms and their video was 30% more than ATTB.
Thankfully out there I'm getting FiOS. Now if only Laguna Hills was in VZ territory. | |
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Re: i hope la wins!I had zero problems with comcast, had all the hd programming for free, and had the best on demand selection of free movies and hd content possible...
forgot to add that my hsi speed was higher with comcast and my bill was lower than today as well | |
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Re: i hope la wins!Aren't you in FiOS land? | |
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Re: i hope la wins!surrounded in fiber but out of my grasp until i move... | |
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said by Dogfather:I had zero problem with TW in Temescal Valley, but Comcast was the worst. They raised my video HSI rates 30%, latency was 500ms and their video was 30% more than ATTB. Thankfully out there I'm getting FiOS. Now if only Laguna Hills was in VZ territory. my latency is 15,000ms from time of click to start of download on lot's of sites google.com takes 30 seconds to load speedtests are fine cause they get realtime priority | |
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Re: speedtestssaid by Anonymous_:speedtests are fine cause they get realtime priority whatcha saying? | |
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GoodForce the cable operators to live up to their agreements or surrender the franchise. | |
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Re: Goodsaid by Dogfather:Force the cable operators to live up to their agreements or surrender the franchise. The big question is - to whom? | |
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Re: GoodTWC isn't the only cable operator on the planet or perhaps Los Angeles can run it themselves as a muni or Cox Communications which operates in south Orange County. | |
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said by Derspankster:said by Dogfather:Force the cable operators to live up to their agreements or surrender the franchise. The big question is - to whom? Good point. Who would pay TWC for their infrastructure if LA awarded them a franchise. US law would prohibit the state from confiscating TWC property without recompense. And if LA awarded the franchise to someone else, it would take years for them to build their own system, or they have to pay TWC big bucks. | |
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Re: GoodCompensation is subjective and without a franchise agreement the cable system is worthless to TWC.
Meanwhile let the city or another cable system pay TWC big bucks. Cable operations are highly profitable if not mismanaged.
Personally I think all this infrastructure should be municipally owned so this isn't a problem in the future. | |
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Yes they can surrender the franchise, all they have to do is turn off the switch. | |
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Re: GoodYeah, the question is to whom...Comcast? Charter? *shakes head* | |
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Re: GoodThere are dozens and dozens of cable operators.
For LA, Cox comes to mind given their local presence and success here. They run their OC operations very well (from my 10+ year digitial CATV+HSI experience with them anyway). | |
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Re: Goodsaid by Dogfather:There are dozens and dozens of cable operators. Could you please list these 24 cable operators that you speak of? | |
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Re: Goodsaid by Cthen:said by Dogfather:There are dozens and dozens of cable operators. Could you please list these 24 cable operators that you speak of? There are tons of regional and local cable providers. Here is a partial list of about 50 and doesn't include Verizon or AT&T who theoretically could buy it. Adelphia Advanced Cable Communications Alameda Power and Telecom Allegiance Communications / Buford Media Group Armstrong Astound Broadband Avalon (Catalina) Cable Bermuda CableVision Blue Ridge Communications Bresnan Communications Bright House Networks Buckeye Cable System/Buckeye Cablevision/Erie County Cablevision (all owned by Block Communications) CableOne Cablevision Cebridge Connections Charter Communications Choice Cable TV Comcast Corporation CommuniComm Services Cox Communications Crestview Cable Cable Systems Incorporated Fairpoint Communications Full Channel General Communications Graceba Total Communications Hometown Cable Insight Communications Jet Broadband Kuhn Communications Lexcom Communications LIberty Cablevision Massillon Cable TV Mediacom Midcontinent Communications Midtel Cable TV Millennium Digital Media Muscatine Power and Water Nelson Cable Northland Cable Television Patriot Media Qwest Communications RCN Corporation Seaport Capital (includes Conversent Communications, Everest Cable, MCV Broadband, Metrocast Communications, Mid-Missouri Telephone and Otelco Holdings) Service Electric SuddenLink Susquehanna Cable Tele-Media Corporation Time Warner Cable Trinity Cable Truvista Communications US Cable ViacomWB Cable WOW! Internet Cable Phone Wyandotte Municipal Services (Community-Owned, Not-for-Profit Services Provider, Wyandotte, Michigan) | |
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Re: GoodViacom owns a cable company? | |
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Re: GoodI thought they owned one but it got absorbed by another cable operator. The old Viacom system looks to be owned by Comcast. I crossed it off the list I found. There are probably a few others on there that aren't around any more. | |
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Re: GoodI stopped counting after 24. | |
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half of those are out of business or bought by comcast lol | |
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Are these all options to you? said by Dogfather:said by Cthen:said by Dogfather:There are dozens and dozens of cable operators. Could you please list these 24 cable operators that you speak of? There are tons of regional and local cable providers. Here is a partial list of about 50 and doesn't include Verizon or AT&T who theoretically could buy it. Adelphia Advanced Cable Communications Alameda Power and Telecom Allegiance Communications / Buford Media Group Armstrong Astound Broadband Avalon (Catalina) Cable Bermuda CableVision Blue Ridge Communications Bresnan Communications Bright House Networks Buckeye Cable System/Buckeye Cablevision/Erie County Cablevision (all owned by Block Communications) CableOne Cablevision Cebridge Connections Charter Communications Choice Cable TV Comcast Corporation CommuniComm Services Cox Communications Crestview Cable Cable Systems Incorporated Fairpoint Communications Full Channel General Communications Graceba Total Communications Hometown Cable Insight Communications Jet Broadband Kuhn Communications Lexcom Communications LIberty Cablevision Massillon Cable TV Mediacom Midcontinent Communications Midtel Cable TV Millennium Digital Media Muscatine Power and Water Nelson Cable Northland Cable Television Patriot Media Qwest Communications RCN Corporation Seaport Capital (includes Conversent Communications, Everest Cable, MCV Broadband, Metrocast Communications, Mid-Missouri Telephone and Otelco Holdings) Service Electric SuddenLink Susquehanna Cable Tele-Media Corporation Time Warner Cable Trinity Cable Truvista Communications US Cable ViacomWB Cable WOW! Internet Cable Phone Wyandotte Municipal Services (Community-Owned, Not-for-Profit Services Provider, Wyandotte, Michigan) | |
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I won't bother, but one could also list 1100+ local telephone companies. It certainly doesn't mean we have 1100 choices, or anything more than 1 for that matter said by Dogfather:said by Cthen:said by Dogfather:There are dozens and dozens of cable operators. Could you please list these 24 cable operators that you speak of? There are tons of regional and local cable providers. Here is a partial list of about 50 and doesn't include Verizon or AT&T who theoretically could buy it. Adelphia Advanced Cable Communications Alameda Power and Telecom Allegiance Communications / Buford Media Group Armstrong Astound Broadband Avalon (Catalina) Cable Bermuda CableVision Blue Ridge Communications Bresnan Communications Bright House Networks Buckeye Cable System/Buckeye Cablevision/Erie County Cablevision (all owned by Block Communications) CableOne Cablevision Cebridge Connections Charter Communications Choice Cable TV Comcast Corporation CommuniComm Services Cox Communications Crestview Cable Cable Systems Incorporated Fairpoint Communications Full Channel General Communications Graceba Total Communications Hometown Cable Insight Communications Jet Broadband Kuhn Communications Lexcom Communications LIberty Cablevision Massillon Cable TV Mediacom Midcontinent Communications Midtel Cable TV Millennium Digital Media Muscatine Power and Water Nelson Cable Northland Cable Television Patriot Media Qwest Communications RCN Corporation Seaport Capital (includes Conversent Communications, Everest Cable, MCV Broadband, Metrocast Communications, Mid-Missouri Telephone and Otelco Holdings) Service Electric SuddenLink Susquehanna Cable Tele-Media Corporation Time Warner Cable Trinity Cable Truvista Communications US Cable ViacomWB Cable WOW! Internet Cable Phone Wyandotte Municipal Services (Community-Owned, Not-for-Profit Services Provider, Wyandotte, Michigan) | |
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Re: GoodPlease read the thread.
At no time did anyone state that these are your CURRENT choices in Los Angeles.
But yes, there is little (other than gov't protesting) that would stop one of our local telcos like Verizon or AT&T from buying a cable system like the one operaterated by TWC in Los Angeles. They certainly have the money to do so and the skill to run it if they chose to. AT&T Broadband around here (Corona) was very well run before Comcast got it and promptly ran it into the ground with 30% price increases and cuts in service. | |
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said by Dogfather:There are dozens and dozens of cable operators. For LA, Cox comes to mind given their local presence and success here. They run their OC operations very well (from my 10+ year digitial CATV+HSI experience with them anyway). Please name 12 (1 dozen only) | |
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Is it possible?I haven't call in for my RR line in forever, not cause it doesn't go down, just, its a back line for my DSL, so I just unplug it and check it again the next day. But I don't think I've ever called them and got some one in 30 seconds or less. For that matter, I do not think I've called any place and talked to some one in that short of time.
How could anyone company agree to that with out snickering? | |
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2008-Jun-5 5:57 pm
Re: Is it possible?I had TWC in Northridge as well. I actually didn't mind it much. They had self install kits for discount back then (gave me 2 free months of service). When I moved from Northridge to Valencia, Comcast was there and was VERY pricey upfront to get service. Eg. TWC was $90 for HSI + digital (2001/2002) Comcast was +$100 ($60 for digital + $45/month for internet )
TWC had no charge install or install yourself and receive free service (1 month for adding digital, 1 month for adding HSI, and 1 more month if I did referral)
Comcast wanted a $100 install fee + shipping/handling of the digital box (fedex) + programming fee
Comcast also 'bundled' some channels into higher tiers: Newsworld International was bundled into an international tier which required digital + extra tier. TWC offered it as part of the basic digital service, as did DTV.
Worst part was that I would have gone 'Broadcast Basic' however, they would not sell it to me, as 'it was not available in your zip code' wether I ordered through CS or online. | |
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2008-Jun-5 5:38 pm
lol ?From the article: "The suit says the company failed to live up to its part of the franchise cable agreement requiring that a company answer subscribers' calls within 30 seconds" That's pretty funny right there..I wish every company answered their customers calls within 30seconds. This suit is stupid. | |
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Done with cable!I am DONE with cable television. The service sucks. The attitude sucks. The pricing is stupid for what would otherwise be free over the air. I've been a subscriber of the top tier "every chanel" package for years... and they lost me completely. "Basic" cable should be ad supported and free so they can get the boxes into the homes and upsell "premium" content.
I canceled my cable and now get 100% of my shows on-line.
If I were at the TV networks, I'd be leaning on the cable companies to get their collective acts together... network TV is loosing their path into the home. | |
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2008-Jun-5 9:52 pm
Good Grief...cut TW a little slack.
350k to 1.9 million customers overnight and they want them answering the phones in 30 seconds?
I'd like to propose a little test. How about everyone who frequents BBR call LA city hall tomorrow at 9am all at the same time and see if they answer their phones in 30 seconds.
LOL...you probably couldn't get 1/2 their "civil servants" out of bed by 9am..never mind on the phone. | |
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2008-Jun-5 11:39 pm
ohioI wonder if Ohio would go along the same way as LA and sue Time warner over the mess over here too? | |
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Don't mess with LA, suckas...Rip 'em a new one, Councilcritters!!!
I would *love* to see the largely united LA market go up for competitive bid. If TW can't cut the mustard, it's time to open it up to competition. | |
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Way to go LA!!!Way to go LA!!! Time Warner, as well as most of the corporations are just bunch of greedy SOB'S, who don't give a shit about their customers. | |
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Re: Way to go LA!!!Back in January 2007 following months of frustration with the takeover by TWC of the Adelphia network I posted my comments, on the Adlephia Forum, which included a suggestion for making a formal written complaint to the LA City Council of their performance, and it was immediately sent to the Rants and Raves Forum. It was not unreasonable to expect some issues with the change but TWC kept advertising superior services and higher speeds as a result of the change. It simply did not happen as they promised and promoted. Clearly, now with the law suit, there were enough Adelphia customers who felt the same way. That said their performance has greatly improved over the past year but I am now paying twice the price, for about the same speeds, I initially had with Adelphia. | |
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