L.A. city attorney to demand Adelphia rebates 7/18/2002 9:02:01 PM LOS ANGELES, July 18 (Reuters) - Bankrupt cable company Adelphia Communications Corp. (ADELQ) should provide rebates to customers to compensate them for past incomplete upgrades, the Los Angeles city attorney's office said on Thursday. City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo, who has in past threatened to seek revocation of Adelphia's franchises in Los Angeles and has even suggested the city might seize the company's systems here, will hold a press conference on Friday morning to propose the rebates, his office said in a statement. » cbs.marketwatch.com/tools/quotes···A172%7D
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Niagara Falls, NY | Hmmm... Lemme see, let's give money back to people for services that were never offered. I can understand credits for downtime of exisitng services, but that is nuts. Should I ask for credit from Adelphia, Verizon, and Quest because they refuse to install a fiber optic jack on my wall?
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Sherman Oaks, CA | finally no, what he is referring to is rebating CUSTOMERS for CRAPPY service and LIES. Finally. | |
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Niagara Falls, NY | Re: finally "should provide rebates to customers to compensate them for past incomplete upgrades"
Doesn't refer to bad service there. That statement says to me he thinks Adelphia should rebate cable customers that can't get higher tier services because of incomplete rebuilds. | |
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Sherman Oaks, CA | Re: finally they should also refund cable modem custmers who are DOWN (or speeds less than 200) more than they are functional. Thats all I am saying. | |
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Niagara Falls, NY | Re: finally I have no problem with that, people are entitled to rebates for services that were paid for and not delivered. His comments sound like he's saying that people should get money back because Adelphia didn't upgrade systems to provide additional services. | |
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| I wonder how the Los Angeles City Council imposed anti-telecom construction moratorium from February of 1999 to May 25, 2002 will figure into all of this.
The lack of upgrades in the City isn't just Adelphia's fault...
P.S. Did I mention the City Council had repeatedly voted to extend the moratorium during those 3+ years and wouldn't let the DWP allow telecom related construction either without specific council approval???
The Los Angeles city attorney seems to conveniently leave out these little details....
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San Diego, CA | I agree with nwfalc. This looks like the city wants customers to get free cable and rebates for incomplete upgrades? There has to be more to this. How can you ask for rebates for something you were going to get, but never did? Is the city paying more for these services they never got?
I'm thinking Hollywood and "precrime" is rubbing off on CA. Next thing ya know Tom Cruise will be telling the world he's afraid for his children and they shouldn't live in the United States because it's a scary place.
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kudos:1 | Re: finally "I'm thinking Hollywood and "precrime" is rubbing off on CA"
Methinks D has been watching too much news 
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Fantastic news..... He must be using the materials I sent him.... Sounds like what I wrote..... I won't object to him using my ideas.... as long as it means I get my cable modem or a fat rebate check for being light years behind the rest of the surrounding markets.
On another note: I find it interesting that Adelphia seemed to have the money (but alas they didn't) for a golf course, timber, jets, loans, etc..... But rebates? Whoa there pal...... They don't have money for that.... I guess you Adelphia flag wavers know what's important...
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kudos:3 | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. Hey one of the councilmen spoke up:
said by Coucilman Jack Weiss:
"In terms of L.A.-based hurdles, we would roll out the red carpet to make sure those didn't exist," Weiss said
So basically the city council of Los Angeles will allow, any company that isn't Adelphia, free reign in completing upgrade work they might require. That's funny because, except for the last 2 months (since May 25th or so) when the city knew Adelphia had to put a hold on upgrades, there has been a City Council enforced moratorium on telecom equipment installation that severly restricted Adelphia's ability to perform upgrades needed to launch new services.
Adelphia had the money, they've upgraded most of their systems in Southern California, other than the city of Los Angeles...
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kudos:1 | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. "Adelphia had the money, they've upgraded most of their systems in Southern California, other than the city of Los Angeles"
And in Northern California too.
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Franklinville, NY | Of course, nobody mentioned that we have no clue what was in the franchise agreement. If Adelphia made promises or gave completion dates regarding upgraded services, then the council is right in demanding that they give rebates.
No matter Adelphia's troubles, if they signed the papers, they are liable. I have no proof, but knowing how Adelphia operates, I wouldn't be surprised if they promised LA the moon!
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| Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. Well if there were clauses I would gander to say they'd be brought up in the news article, but I wouldn't bet on it. If Adelphia made promises in their franchise agreement how can they get away without completing them or giving rebates? But if Adelphia didn't promise anything in their franchise agreement but television service and routine maintenance, what is LA complaining about? It sounds like to me, so far, they are a bunch of whiners and perhaps someone is running for office again in the near future? You can't trust politicians (elected or appointed officials.) They always have an ulterior motive. Not that I would trust the corporate conglomerate either. 
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kudos:3 | Said by Hickerx2:
"If Adelphia made promises or gave completion dates regarding upgraded services, then the council is right in demanding that they give rebates.
No matter Adelphia's troubles, if they signed the papers, they are liable."
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Is the council right in demanding rebates for unfinished upgrades, if the same council is also responsible for placing the moratorium on telecom equipment installation that prevented Adelphia from finishing the upgrades?
If Adelphia is forced to pay rebates I think the city should be responisble for paying either Adelphia or its subscribers part of that rebate. Without the moratorium I'm sure the upgrades would have been done months or years ago... | |
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Franklinville, NY | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. said by MacLeech:
Is the council right in demanding rebates for unfinished upgrades, if the same council is also responsible for placing the moratorium on telecom equipment installation that prevented Adelphia from finishing the upgrades?
That's a good point but I think if that is the case, it's a pretty cut-and-dried legal case. If that(the moratorium) is what it seems, Adelphia will sue LA and the city won't have a leg to stand on. It will be interesting how this plays out.
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| Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. Excerpt from City Council document # 99-0300:
12-19-01 - Special 5 Motion - Miscikowski Mover 2001 / Weiss - On February 23, 1999 (CF 99-0300) the City Council approved a motion instructing the City Engineer not to grant utility / excavation permits or revocable permits and the Department of Water and Power not to approve pole-mounts for telecommunication cabinets and conduits unless exempted through Council offices or, in an emergency, by the Department of Public Works.
The moratorium was enacted to provide time for the Planning Department, the City Attorney, the Department of Public Works, and Information Technology Agency to draft ordinances to strengthen the City's laws regarding these facilities and their location in the public right of way.
While the Departments have been working on this and are very close to completing the ordinances more time is needed for final determinations of the appropriate committees and commissions.
THEREFORE MOVE that the Council determine, as provided in Section 54954.2(b)(2) of the Government Code, and pursuant to Rule 23 of the Rules of the City Council, that there is a need to take immediate action on this matter AND that the need for action came to the attention of the City Council subsequent to the posting of the agenda for today's Council meeting.
FURTHER MOVE that the moratorium enacted on February 23, 1999 and extended on July 3, 2001 be extended for another 6 month period unless exempted through Council District offices or based on any emergency, by the Department of Public Works.
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The records of the moratorium are listed on the city of Los Angeles website. Search for document numbers: 99-1593 and 99-0300. Those documents will tell you the who, what, where, and when about the city's actions toward telecom construction...
It interesting that Councilman Weiss had voted to approve the last extension of the moratorium, even after the council publicly announced an urgent need to lift the moratorium because of a public outcry.
Obviously, after just reading the excerpt above, the City Attorney and the City Council knew about this moratorium and that it was in effect for more than 3 years. Yet, they play dumb and demand upgraded services or rebates from Adelphia, when they knew there were restrictions on the installation of needed equipment.
Seems like kind of backhanded politics to me...
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kudos:4 | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. Hmmmm....
So to clarify this...
Adelphia were subject to a moratorium imposed by the City of Los Angeles Council. This moratorium was imposed so the certain departments involved could write ordinances. The moratorium was imposed in Feb 99 and only lifted recently.
This moratorium would severely restrict a cable company trying to install and upgrade cable strung on poles. One of the offices involved in writing these ordinances was the City Attorney.
I see. Sounds like typical local politics to me. Who pulls the strings of these people...Emhinkes?
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kudos:1 | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. said by hobgoblin:
One of the offices involved in writing these ordinances was the City Attorney.
There you go again Hob.....
According to »www.ci.la.ca.us/atty/ATYBO1.HTM
Rocky was "Elected to office on June 5, 2001"......
So I guess this city attorney is just as bad as the previous one....
I think you're the one I should be ignoring.... geezus.....
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kudos:4 | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. Emhinkes Blustered
"So I guess this city attorney is just as bad as the previous one....
I think you're the one I should be ignoring.... geezus"
I was not talking individuals...I was talking positions. I am sure Rocky has a complete set of files on the moratorium...maybe he should read them before he spouts his political drivle.
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kudos:1 | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. said by hobgoblin:
maybe he should read them before he spouts his political drivle.
Hob
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Maybe you should take your own advice Hob.
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San Diego, CA | said by MacLeech:
Said by Hickerx2:
"If Adelphia made promises or gave completion dates regarding upgraded services, then the council is right in demanding that they give rebates.
No matter Adelphia's troubles, if they signed the papers, they are liable."
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Is the council right in demanding rebates for unfinished upgrades, if the same council is also responsible for placing the moratorium on telecom equipment installation that prevented Adelphia from finishing the upgrades?
If Adelphia is forced to pay rebates I think the city should be responisble for paying either Adelphia or its subscribers part of that rebate. Without the moratorium I'm sure the upgrades would have been done months or years ago...
If Adelphia has a franchise contract stating they must perform upgrades by certain dates with no stipulations in LA, Adelphia must be rebates to LA customers. But, Adelphia if there was a moratorium halting upgrades which is LA's fault, then Adelphia should be reimbursed for lost income from not being able to perform the upgrades. So, in this hypothetical situation Adelphia should pay if it's in their contract, but LA should pay also for halting the work. How much does each have to pay and who wins out in the end, nadda clue. But in our legal system Adelphia can't say they just won't pay if they are legally entitled to pay even with a LA halting the process. But Adelphia should also be compensated for the halted process even if it costs LA more than Adelphia pays for rebates.
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Franklinville, NY | As I said, if we are seeing the whole story and there isn't some facet that the city or Adelphia hasn't made public, then it's complete BS. I hate Adelphia but they can't be penalized when the council's own restrictions are the reason for the "lack" of upgraded services. This will be sitting in court for who knows how long and the poor LA residents who elected these idiots will suffer.
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Sherman Oaks, CA | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. ok, I am confused. If there is a moratorium, how did adelphia convert my neighborhood to digital 24 months ago?
how were they stringing new cable 3 months ago in my area?
how have they been splitting nodes (July/Aug 2001) here?
If they can split nodes, then they can solve my neighborhoods problem (too many modems on one node) as John Peacock from Adelphia stated when he was here at my house last week.
So where is this moratorium enforced/effective? I am confused... | |
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Franklinville, NY | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. said by TXnLA:
ok, I am confused. If there is a moratorium, how did adelphia convert my neighborhood to digital 24 months ago?
how were they stringing new cable 3 months ago in my area?
how have they been splitting nodes (July/Aug 2001) here?
If they can split nodes, then they can solve my neighborhoods problem (too many modems on one node) as John Peacock from Adelphia stated when he was here at my house last week.
So where is this moratorium enforced/effective? I am confused...
I'm quite confused too. This is exactly why I questioned whether or not we know the full story. They gave emhinkes digital cable but there is a moratorium forbidding it. WTF?
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kudos:1 | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. said by Hickerx2:
said by TXnLA:
ok, I am confused. If there is a moratorium, how did adelphia convert my neighborhood to digital 24 months ago?
how were they stringing new cable 3 months ago in my area?
how have they been splitting nodes (July/Aug 2001) here?
If they can split nodes, then they can solve my neighborhoods problem (too many modems on one node) as John Peacock from Adelphia stated when he was here at my house last week.
So where is this moratorium enforced/effective? I am confused...
I'm quite confused too. This is exactly why I questioned whether or not we know the full story. They gave emhinkes digital cable but there is a moratorium forbidding it. WTF?
Exactly.... Hmmmm.... It's never been a straight story with Adelphia in Los Angeles.... Building? Not Building? Digital Cable? Internet? The amount of misinformation we've been given over the years is not to be believed!
How did Adelphia manage to rollout any new services during this Moratorium? The answer is that things weren't at a deadstop. Adelphia was able to accomplish things under the moratorium...... But honestly, I don't think Adelphia had the money to build up a network in a market as large as ours, much less maintain a functioning adequate one, even without a moratorium.... as evidenced by the fact that they're now outta cash.
There ain't no moratorium now, Adelphia.... What's stopping you?
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San Diego, CA | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. said by emhinkes:
said by Hickerx2:
said by TXnLA:
ok, I am confused. If there is a moratorium, how did adelphia convert my neighborhood to digital 24 months ago?
how were they stringing new cable 3 months ago in my area?
how have they been splitting nodes (July/Aug 2001) here?
If they can split nodes, then they can solve my neighborhoods problem (too many modems on one node) as John Peacock from Adelphia stated when he was here at my house last week.
So where is this moratorium enforced/effective? I am confused...
I'm quite confused too. This is exactly why I questioned whether or not we know the full story. They gave emhinkes digital cable but there is a moratorium forbidding it. WTF?
Exactly.... Hmmmm.... It's never been a straight story with Adelphia in Los Angeles.... Building? Not Building? Digital Cable? Internet? The amount of misinformation we've been given over the years is not to be believed!
How did Adelphia manage to rollout any new services during this Moratorium? The answer is that things weren't at a deadstop. Adelphia was able to accomplish things under the moratorium...... But honestly, I don't think Adelphia had the money to build up a network in a market as large as ours, much less maintain a functioning adequate one, even without a moratorium.... as evidenced by the fact that they're now outta cash.
There ain't no moratorium now, Adelphia.... What's stopping you?
Let me get this straight, you got new services like digital cable? Isn't that an upgrade? So your complaining now because you didn't get a Powerlink upgrade? You flip-flop stories so it suits you. If you got new services during a moratorium saying you shouldn't have gotten new services, why are you complaining? Because you want more? Damn Californians always wanting more.
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kudos:4 | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. Boyle noted
"You flip-flop stories so it suits you."
Mr Hinkes says whatever he thinks at the time and whatever sounds dramatic. He spent months saying he had been waiting 5 years untill I posted the link from the Wall street papers showing the date Adelphia took over from Century.
He is very boring and I like to ignore him mostly!
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kudos:1 | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. said by hobgoblin:
Boyle noted
"You flip-flop stories so it suits you."
Mr Hinkes says whatever he thinks at the time and whatever sounds dramatic. He spent months saying he had been waiting 5 years untill I posted the link from the Wall street papers showing the date Adelphia took over from Century.
He is very boring and I like to ignore him mostly!
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Hob.... If it makes you feel any more proud of Adelphia that you believe it's a year less than I say, then feel prouder. You can rest assured that I don't give a damn what you believe.
It's quite clear that Adelphia can't hack it here now. I feel lucky that my TV is staying on. A cable company going bankrupt.... that's unreal.... truly unreal....
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kudos:1 | said by dboyle:
Let me get this straight, you got new services like digital cable? Isn't that an upgrade? So your complaining now because you didn't get a Powerlink upgrade? You flip-flop stories so it suits you. If you got new services during a moratorium saying you shouldn't have gotten new services, why are you complaining? Because you want more? Damn Californians always wanting more.
That's where you're wrong.... the moratorium never said that we couldn't get new services. You show me in the text of the statute where it says that.... You can't.... and you know you can't.
Think.... Then type.....
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San Diego, CA | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. said by emhinkes:
That's where you're wrong.... the moratorium never said that we couldn't get new services. You show me in the text of the statute where it says that.... You can't.... and you know you can't.
Think.... Then type.....
The moratorium, which I read above thanks to MacLeech, prevented the building of necessary equipment to offer you new services like Powerlink. Be glad you got digital cable and be mad at the city for taking 3 years to put together a sceme to regulate the new services. The reason I read for the moratorium was so the city and it's council's could get their act together in regulating new services. Place blame where it is deserved, on the city. The city is just passing blame on Adelphia now.
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Sherman Oaks, CA | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. Ok, I still am confused. If they could not provide Powerlink to me why did they sell it to me?
If they knew they could not do the construction necessary to provide me with adequate cable modem service why did they sell it to me?
Answer: to get me to pay them $50 per month. They should NOT have sold me service they could not provide, THAT is why they should refund the money I paid for inadequate service. Its called deceptive trade practices and where I am from (Texas) it gets you penalized 3 times the damages plus attorney's fees. Too bad I moved to Ca. and got hoodwinked! Blah. | |
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kudos:1 | Damn Californians always wanting more
Stupid Virginians, buncha redneck hicks! Sound nice? No, it doesn't. Save the those kind of statements for your bathroom time, not these forums.
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kudos:1 | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. said by ILOVELA2:
Damn Californians always wanting more
Stupid Virginians, buncha redneck hicks! Sound nice? No, it doesn't. Save the those kind of statements for your bathroom time, not these forums.
dboyle needs a timeout....
Please go in the corner and stare at the wall.
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San Diego, CA | said by ILOVELA2:
Damn Californians always wanting more
Stupid Virginians, buncha redneck hicks! Sound nice? No, it doesn't. Save the those kind of statements for your bathroom time, not these forums.
Doesn't bother me, I live 30 minutes from DC, you won't see many rednecks here. Try down south. BTW, you act like the mod alot, you should look into that issue.
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kudos:3 | The moratorium prevent the massive installation of equipment needed by Adelphia to switch from a bandwidth choked 450-550 Mhz Tree & Branch cable system to a 860 Mhz or better Hybrid Fiber/Coax (HFC) system. It didn't prevent the replacement of existing equipment.
Limited digital services can be launched on such an older system, but without the extended bandwidth of a newer 860Mhz or higher HFC plant, some analog channels are usually lost to make room for a limited number of digital channel groups. Plus services that need 2-way communications are severely restricted, if they are even available because of signal noise propagation problems in an older style system.
I've explained this all to Emhinkes before...
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San Diego, CA | said by Hickerx2:
As I said, if we are seeing the whole story and there isn't some facet that the city or Adelphia hasn't made public, then it's complete BS. I hate Adelphia but they can't be penalized when the council's own restrictions are the reason for the "lack" of upgraded services. This will be sitting in court for who knows how long and the poor LA residents who elected these idiots will suffer.
I agree, I don't like Adelphia worth a lick, but if LA just lifted a moratorium and they expect Adelphia just to pick up where they left off they should be sadly mistaken. It's just not that simple to pick up where ya left off, especially after 3 years. Labor allocations, finances, infrastruture, technology change a lot in 3 years. Maybe Adelphia should give LA technology from 3 years ago. What was the fastest backbone in 1999? Not nearly as fast as they are now. Plus, this could be a ploy because LA knew Adelphia was going under and they could really stick it to them now. Damn politicians are the most worthless individuals on the face of this planet.
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kudos:1 | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. said by dboyle:
Damn politicians are the most worthless individuals on the face of this planet.
I would disagree....
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San Diego, CA | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. ...what a surprise. | |
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Franklinville, NY | Well, I won't say that Adelphia is the only party here not telling the straight story. I'm not defending them but something isn't "kosher" here.
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San Diego, CA | Re: Here is the latest Update in this subject. Politicians or businessmen? Battle of the two evils. I prefer businessmen at least some of them are honest and hardworking.
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