  gigahurtzPremium
join:2001-10-20
Palm Coast, FL
 ·Bright House
| How does this happen? Isn't it a companies job to gauge the interest in a product? Google's Nexus line has become more popular with every release. It looks as though their initial production was very low in comparison with past models. It baffles me that a company like LG and Google could mess up this bad. I've been trying to order a Nexus 4 for a while now, and have been unable to. I am concerned that once these do come back in stock that it will be right back to the same old story: "Sold out!"
Let's only hope LG and Google have figured it out this time. | |
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 |  LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | Re: How does this happen? And if they don't get sales now, the interest will die off quickly because this phone doesn't have LTE. It will be quickly supplanted by a newer model - one with LTE support.
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: How does this happen? It has LTE support, actually. AWS band only, but that's all you need for T-Mobile. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: How does this happen? Because it's not FCC certified.
Interesting to see LTE deployed on AWS on AT&T now, as well. They have the spectrum, but they didn't seem to be planning on using it any time soon. | |
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| | | | I know that this is going to blow your mind but I'm actually happy they didn't include LTE in this phone. There's no point. I get routinely 12-17 megabits down with just HSPA+ so I don't really get the point of needing anything faster. LTE just sucks up battery. What am I going to do with 20+ megabits on my phone, especially with a 5GB cap? Multiple HD streams or something? What's the point? | |
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| | |  LightSPremium
join:2005-12-17
Greenville, TX | Re: How does this happen? I wish AT&T or T-mobile's HSPA+ was that fast around here.. lol | |
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| | | | Trolololol lololol lololol lololol.........
The previous comment was brought to you by AT&T and Verizon.
Did you know you can't spell ELEET without LTE? Don't be a luser, get a phone with LTE, for those half dozen markets we actually have any 4G at all! | |
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| | |  trparkyApple... YUMPremium,MVM
join:2000-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:2 | Re: How does this happen? Even if I did get a Galaxy S III (or Galaxy S IV), I'll turn off LTE and go HSDPA+ for most of the time and reserve LTE for those times I really need the bandwidth. Saves battery life. | |
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| | | | | said by romulusnr:Trolololol lololol lololol lololol.........
The previous comment was brought to you by AT&T and Verizon.
Did you know you can't spell ELEET without LTE? Don't be a luser, get a phone with LTE, for those half dozen markets we actually have any 4G at all!
Why bring Verizon up in this? This phone doesn't work with Verizon and sorry Verizon has FAR more than six 4G LTE markets. Try closer to 500. | |
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| | | trparkyApple... YUMPremium,MVM
join:2000-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Re: How does this happen? I have a Galaxy Nexus myself on Verizon and there are times I want to throw it at the wall, especially when I drop a call. It's so bad that I don't even use it as a phone for I'm probably going to drop the call. I practically have to stand on one foot and whistle Dixie for the call to not drop.
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| | | | LightSPremium
join:2005-12-17
Greenville, TX | Re: How does this happen? I'd be irritated if I had that issue, lol.
I love my Nexus... first phone I've been 100% satisfied with..  | |
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| | | | LightSPremium
join:2005-12-17
Greenville, TX | I'd be irritated if I had that issue, lol.
I love my Nexus... first phone I've been 100% satisfied with.. | |
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| | | I have my nexus 4 right here in front of me as I'm typing this! It took me around 2 hours of clicking a button to get the order to go though on the day the second wave came around. | |
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|  jimkPremium
join:2006-04-15
Raleigh, NC
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| The Nexus 4 is a slightly different situation than the Nexus tablets in the US market.
The Nexus 7 sold well because it was inexpensive and a very good product. Until recently, it was Wi-Fi only (which is all most people care about in a tablet). So it did not matter who your wireless carrier was.
But when it comes to selling phones, the Nexus 4 is in a very unique and new situation here. Most people are not used to buying an unlocked phone off contract. They just wait for their 2 years to be up, and sign another contract for a subsidized device. Prepaid customers are used to buying a device that was way out of date 1 to 2 years ago.
For AT&T postpaid customers, the Nexus 4 costs more than similar phones purchased on contract from AT&T. The cheapest Nexus 4 is $299 unlocked, while you can get a Galaxy S III or an iPhone 5 for $199 on a 2 year contract. Furthermore, if you are on a postpaid AT&T plan, you get the bonus of paying for everyone else's device subsidy even if you buy the unlocked Nexus 4. AT&T Prepaid isn't a very good deal for smartphone customers.
Now, people who have the following are much better off: T-Mobile Value Plan, T-Mobile Prepaid, SIMple Mobile, StraightTalk Bring your own phone plan, Red Pocket Mobile, etc. They don't get device subsidies, so suddenly a high end phone that costs between $299 and $349 starts to look a lot more attractive (especially when anything close in specs costs $500). A Nexus 4 on one of these plans can save a lot of money. I think Google estimated this growing portion of the wireless market.
Also, a large portion of the US wireless market - all Sprint and Verizon customers (and a few regional carriers such as US Cellular) can't even use the Nexus 4 since it won't run on their network.
Most people don't realize that the subsidy model for smartphones artificially inflates prices and limits your options. They just look at the sticker price of the phone and worry about how much it will cost them later (if they worry about it at all).
As for the stock issues in other countries, I can't really say anything about that. I don't have enough knowledge of how people buy phones outside the US. | |
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| Re: How does this happen? Yes the lack of CDMA is a major drawback on this phone, for me where I live anyway.
On the other hand, they seem to be selling all they can make of the GSM model so what is Google's incentive to develop and sell a CDMA version?
Sure would be nice to see a Verizon model however.
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| | | trparkyApple... YUMPremium,MVM
join:2000-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:2 | Re: How does this happen? Because of CDMA's proprietary nature, I doubt that we'll ever see a CDMA-based Nexus 4. | |
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join:2005-12-17
Greenville, TX | That last part is exactly why I don't have a Nexus 4 - I like my Verizon too much & their LTE coverage. Anything not LTE is okay, but I would prefer to not take a step backwards.. | |
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| | |  MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL | Re: How does this happen? said by LightS:That last part is exactly why I don't have a Nexus 4 - I like my Verizon too much & their LTE coverage. Anything not LTE is okay, but I would prefer to not take a step backwards.. Same here. Verizon has the best network here in Tallahassee. I run a Galaxy SIII with Cyanogenmod which, IMO, is the next best thing. | |
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| |  dnoyeBFerrous Phallus
join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI
·Comcast
| But this has been true for a while. At least for me. I bought a Nexus One, and now a Galaxy Nexus on Tmobile without contract. Both times it saved me money because the plans they make you get on contract are expensive. Hell, they have misinformation that has many people convinced you MUST have a data plan to be on tmobiles network... I didn't even have data with my Nexus One. Wifi only..
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: Nexus 4 It takes about 15 seconds to turn on LTE with the Nexus 4. Granted, it only supports one band, but it supports that band quite well. | |
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| |  whfsdudePremium
join:2003-04-05
Washington, DC
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| Re: Nexus 4 said by iansltx:It takes about 15 seconds to turn on LTE with the Nexus 4. Granted, it only supports one band, but it supports that band quite well.
I am wondering if they will disable this with a baseband update seeing as the phone doesn't have approval from the FCC for the LTE band.
I am thinking about getting one as soon as I can as an upgrade to my Galaxy Nexus on T-Mo. Figuring I'll use the LTE as my market will have T-Mo LTE shortly. | |
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| ssavoyPremium
join:2007-08-16
Dallas, PA | If AT&T deployed 42mbps HSPA+ like T-Mobile, there'd be even less of a need for it to have LTE. | |
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| | | Because LTE is 4G and HSDPA is not.
(Fun fact: Technically neither are.)
I think LTE really stands for Lets Troll Everyone. | |
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 mech1164I'll Be Back
join:2001-11-19
Lodi, NJ | It will sell That's a givin,the price alone assures this. If all you believe in is that it MUST HAVE LTE you aren't paying attention. LTE is great and all but HSPA42 is plenty fast and in many cases can be faster then the implementation of LTE that is out there. As it is now on my Gnex on Tmo with HSPA21 I can get 8+ down and I've seen that with 42 on the N4 hitting up to 22 down.
When VOLTE comes out then we have something to really talk about. All I can say it that 30.00 prepaid on Tmo is gonna see a big increase once there is proper stock of N4's in the play store. | |
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| | | Re: It will sell I agree with you completely. People don't realize that I'm getting like 12+ megabits on my phone WITHOUT LTE so I don't get what they're crying about. I'm not eager to have less battery life for no reason. Maybe when they start to increase the caps I'll think about LTE but until then I'll just buy an HSPA phone. If I had a phone with LTE I think I'd just turn the LTE off right now.
I'm on the 30/month T-Mobile plan right now. I actually get the refill cards at a 20% discount so I only pay like 24/month. Can't beat that. | |
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| | | | Re: It will sell Adherents of the Church of Apple are not able to comprehend that any device could be better than the Most Holy iPhone. So, they westboro the other devices into submission. | |
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| | | | I'm on that plan right now and just did a quick test on my Nexus 4, 27 down and 2.3 up... for a phone, I'll take that as I just came from a T-Mobile Comet, lol !  | |
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join:2007-04-20
Bay City, MI | It isn't just LG The same thing is happening with the Samsung Chromebooks. No one has any last I checked and if they do, they want double if not more for one. Google has some learning to do about demand from consumers. They knew damn good and well how well these things would sell. | |
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| | Goofle For all the ridiculous standards they put on the hiring process, they sure do make some pretty bumbling mistakes.
Perhaps they should be less picky about a candidate's particular SQL habits than on their ability to know what the fuck is going on.
Protip: When you encourage your employees to never leave the office, they stop having any knowledge of the reality of the outside world.
What's Google's statement on this clusterfuck? Probably "Wheeee, we're making Google Brainchip, and BTW we're closing down YouTube and Search." | |
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|  FBGuyPremium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL | Re: Goofle Thank you for that confusing post. | |
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| | LightSPremium
join:2005-12-17
Greenville, TX | Re: Goofle Sounds to me like he got denied a job offering at Google...  | |
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| | | FBGuyPremium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL | Re: Goofle lol. I know many people that got denied job offers at Google. Most of them have no hard feelings about it. In fact, many of them are happy that they even got an interview. | |
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join:2005-12-17
Greenville, TX | Re: Goofle He just seems particularly antsy about it, haha | |
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| | Just now? They just now noticed that demand was much higher than supply?
Didn't these sell out in less than an hour in November? Its been 3 months, and they're going to ramp-up production in Febuary?
Why not November? December? Or even January?
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|  JuggernautIrreverent or irrelevant?Premium
join:2006-09-05
Kelowna, BC
kudos:2 | Re: Just now? LG may have prior factory line commitments. However, the additional time lets any bugs get worked out. | |
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| | | | Re: Just now? My youngest son ordered one of these in November and it came in today. He lives overseas and we shipped it out to him today. I would be interested in one except that where I live the only carrier is Verizon. I have unlimited LTE and use it to allow the family to wireless tether to the internet while I am at home. With 3 computers connected I just checked a couple of connections and got between 1.5 to 2 Mbps down and .5 to .8 Mbps up through the tether. This is about 10X faster than my local WISP provides. | |
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join:2002-10-03
Orange, CT
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Would've bought a Nexus 4, had LTE actually been a selling point, and not just a hack that works on 1 band.
To be fair, this AT&T iPhone 5 works on... AT&T. So much for a "world phone".
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join:2004-11-06
Winnipeg, MB Reviews:
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| "No Tension [between demand and supply]" by Februrary? I call B.S. Even getting around the technicality that according to that statement everyone who wants to buy a Nexus 4 could do so by next Thursday, I doubt that this will be the case even by February 28.
No one knows how many people have given up on the 4, or how many people are still waiting to throw their money at Google or a carrier for the phone, but my instincts say there is no way LG has or will have produced enough units to back up that statement. | |
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join:2002-05-20
London, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| LG passing the buck This is entirely on LG's head. A simple look at the Nexus Galaxy sales would have shown that interest in Nexus devices was on a serious rise. This was simply a case of LG not being able to appease demand in such a way that Samsung is/was able to. They just wanted their turn at being popular and they failed.
If Google decides to "partner" with LG again, I'll skip that Nexus device. Just as I'm skipping the Nexus 4.
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