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| | | | Re: Battery life 1 hr less on LTE than on 3G said by Linklist:http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/07/live-blogging-apples-ipad-event/
Battery life is nine hours on 4G, 10 hours on 3G.
That's rather impressive considering most other LTE devices are eating batteries. | |
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| | | | | Re: Battery life 1 hr less on LTE than on 3G They've gotten a little better over the last year compared to my thunderbolt, and I'm sure if apple put it in their ipad someone developed a more efficient chip for them. | |
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| | |  GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | said by fifty nine:That's rather impressive considering most other LTE devices are eating batteries. It should be noted that the iPad 2 had a 25 Wh battery, while the iPa d 3 has a 42.5 Wh battery. So yeah, they can spend some more power on LTE.
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|  seamanPremium
join:2000-12-08
Seattle, WA | Re: Old iPad 2 gets a $100 price drop At $830 a pop (for iPad HD) the iPad 2 is looking very attractive to me now. I dont need bleeding edge toys. Leading edge is fine.  | |
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| | | | Re: Old iPad 2 gets a $100 price drop Why would you compared the 64GB, LTE version of the new ipad with the 16gb wifi only version of the ipad 2, your grossly exaggerating the difference in price, it's just $100 | |
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|  N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
kudos:1 | Not a bad idea on Apple's part. Just like they kept selling the older iPhones and a reduced price. It gives people a chance to get on board with their products at a reduced rate.
I wouldn't want an LTE iPad anyway, but at $399 I would consider a wifi model.
This from a guy who thought the iPad was a joke when it came out (search my post history, boy was I wrong)...
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| jfmezeiPremium
join:2007-01-03
Pointe-Claire, QC
kudos:22 | Couple of comments:
The lack of a name probably means that this will be refered to "iPad , early 2012 edition" like Apple does for its computers.
Interesting that Apple claimed that the new iPad has the widest range of frequencies. Yet, it still misses 1700 which is used by a number of canadian cariers and t-mobile.
I would have though it would be the proper time to introduce 1700 support.
Also puzzled why they will have a verizon and at&T version. I wonder what the canadian version will be like, considering that the 700mhz auction hasn't take place, so Apple can't know which of the carriers will get what chunk of the 700. | |
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| | GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | Re: Old iPad 2 gets a $100 price drop Well, it is an octo-band device, I believe, although not all bands are supported on all standards.
Yeah, I don't know why there are different versions. The iPhone 4S unified them so that AT&T and Verizon get the same model, I don't see why they'd need different models for the iPad.
It's not the end of the world, really, since the iPad is a prime candidate to tether to a cellphone. Not quite as convenient, but saves you a bunch of money.
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| | mhz spectrum I think the article flip flopped the frequencies for verizon and att.
"Verizon using largely the 704-746MHz range, while AT&T's network uses the 746-787MHz range."
Verizon bought the C block on the upper side and I believe ATT bought the lower. I could not quite remember but maybe someone else knows. | |
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| | | Re: mhz spectrum No you're right. Had them reversed. Thanks! | |
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| | | | Re: mhz spectrum I don't see why they wouldn't just have a single LTE radio for the 700MHz spectrum.
Its not like they have to sell different devices based on Cellular A band vs Cellular B band, or PCS A-F bands. | |
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keasonPremium
join:2002-05-02
Ann Arbor, MI | GPS Chip? Anyone know if you still need to purchase the Cellular version for working GPS? | |
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|  LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | Re: GPS Chip? said by keason:Anyone know if you still need to purchase the Cellular version for working GPS?
The Wifi only iPad won't have GPS.
From Apple's spec page
Location:
Wifi only ipad
Wi-Fi
Digital compass
LTE iPad
Wi-Fi
Digital compass
Assisted GPS
Cellular | |
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| | | | Re: GPS Chip? just another ploy to chain the consumer to a carrier intent on extracting more and more revenue while delivering less and less. | |
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| | iPad HD? I never saw a mention of Apple calling it the iPad HD. | |
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | Re: iPad HD? said by jaorgeron:I never saw a mention of Apple calling it the iPad HD.
It is just called iPad. And the old iPad is still the iPad 2. Confusing huh! | |
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join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY | I'll Keep Mine I have a 64GB back WiFi iPad 2 and I do not see anything in the iPad HD (if that is what they are calling it) to get me to jump. I'll wait to see what next years update brings. Perhaps they will bring in the iPhone 4S camera and slim it back down again. Besides, I have a leather SmartCover and I do not want to have to get a new cover for the new iPad HD LOL!
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| navyson
join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD | Re: Apple If it doesn't support Flash, no thanks. Most of the video sites I use are flash enabled. | |
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| | openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | Re: Apple Adobe is sunsetting Flash on mobile, so it's merely a matter of time before Apple realizes its victory. Personally, Flash annoys the crap out of me. I try to avoid it with my Android devices. | |
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| | | navyson
join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD | Re: Apple For now, it is critical for me. Almost all the video websites I use use flash as its video player.
I want to experience the entire web and not what apple wants me to view.
Long live Android | |
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| | | | ecoPremium
join:2001-11-28
Wilmington, DE | Re: Apple Future version of Android will no longer include flash. In fact, Google Chrome for Android (currently only runs on 4.0) does not support flash even if the device it's running on has flash loaded.
Enjoy it while it lasts. Those sites will either have to update or miss out on hundreds of millions of viewers on iOS and Android devices. | |
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join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD | Re: Apple Adobe did provide an update to Flash to include support for Ice Cream Sandwich. | |
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join:2001-11-28
Wilmington, DE | Re: Apple Yes, but that does not work in Chrome for Android. It doesn't support plugins. Chrome for Android is different than "Browser" which comes built in to all Android devices.
Also, that is the last release of Flash for Android Adobe is releasing beyond the possibility of some minor security updates. Whatever version of Android comes after 4.0 will not have Flash. | |
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join:2005-07-01
Atlanta, GA | Re: Apple said by eco:Yes, but that does not work in Chrome for Android.
And both of the people using Chrome for Android are really pissed about it, too. 
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join:2001-08-07
Elk Grove, CA
kudos:1
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| Re: Apple said by fuziwuzi:said by eco:Yes, but that does not work in Chrome for Android.
And both of the people using Chrome for Android are really pissed about it, too. No i'm not! 
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| |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by navyson:If it doesn't support Flash, no thanks. Most of the video sites I use are flash enabled.
they won't ever support flash, they couldn't lock you to the apple store if they did. | |
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 IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | AT&T 3G Grandfathering for Unlimited? I wonder what this means for AT&T's Grandfathered Unlimited Plan iPad 3G folks....
Think they'll be able to migrate to LTE?
I'm guessing no.... but stranger things have happened. | |
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| | IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | Re: AT&T 3G Grandfathering for Unlimited? Well what do you know... More congestion BS from AT&T.
Letting iPad owners keep unlimited without throttling shows that there's no network strain. | |
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| | | Re: While the LTE networks may be capable of 73mbps Even if the speeds were usable, what's the point with such low caps? | |
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| | dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | Re: While the LTE networks may be capable of 73mbps said by mlcarson:Even if the speeds were usable, what's the point with such low caps?
Maximum revenue generation!
caps suck all the value out of having HD on *any* tablet[apple or others too] | |
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join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA
kudos:1 | Isn't the 73mbps shared? Wouldn't it be better to have a 100mbps connection in a house with 10 iPhone 4S users as apposed to only having a 15mbps connection? | |
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no, that 73mbps is for a single user, if the backhaul can handle it. And yes, it is much cheaper to get a landline service, and I am betting that the ipad can only do about 25-30mbps on good network areas on LTE or HSDPA+. The hardware is not meant to handle that speed, and its a pointless option since it will never be used, and its only a way for a carrier to charge you MORE every month. | |
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join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD | Best Alternative to the IPAD Toshiba Excite
Has alot of features the IPAD doesn't offer
1. HDMI port
2. SD card slot
3. USB port
4. Supports flash so you can enjoy the "ENTIRE INTERNET"
Toshiba Excite
»www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Excite-AT···6&sr=8-2 | |
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IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | 2 GB for 30 dollars on AT&T? Hey AT&T....
The new iPad is an LTE device and you offer 2 GB for 30 dollars?
You're offerring 3 GB for 30 dollars on the iPhone...
So what gives?
That wouldn't be an upsell to the 5 GB plan for 50 dollars on the iPad would it?
Nah....  | |
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| | | Re: 2 GB for 30 dollars on AT&T? I bought the 64GB LTE AT&T one. Why ? I will never use the LTE function here probably, but maybe when I travel to Europe. | |
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| | IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | Re: 2 GB for 30 dollars on AT&T? Looks like Apple had it wrong.... | |
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| | Tablets tied to carriers not a good idea Just get Wifi only device and use WiFi hotpot tethering on phone no matter the carrier and share to many devices. Although Sprint is only one left with unlimited. I hotspot many devices to my Epic Touch - no meter watching and up to 12Mbps.
Do the iPads with 3g/4G radios require a period of data service with carrier? | |
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| | | Re: Tablets tied to carriers not a good idea I have a 1st Gen iPad wifi only 32GB. I LOVE the thing; I don't think of it as a computer. The rig I built with a Core i7, ASUS MB and 8GB Ripjaw RAM...THAT is a computer. It's my workhorse for Photoshop, my baby, my PRECIOUSSSSSSS....ahem. Sorry. Still waiting on Diablo III.
Today, after much thought and gnashing of teeth, I cancelled my grandfathered Alltel 3G TRUE UNLIMITED (no cap) aircard account. It was a very hard decision to make but the 3G access here has degraded to the point where I can't use it. Sorry, but I'm not paying $60 a month for 40KB speeds...on a good day. I tried for *TWO frickin' YEARS* to get VZW to address the tower issue; I know it's the *(#&$ tower because I used to get 2.2-2.8Mb down with Alltel and it was destroyed in the merger. I still had at least 18 months left on the contract but have a stack of trouble tickets a mile high, so they let me go without a fuss.
My husband, however, made noises about getting me a new iPad for use with our small business. We will be doing weekend events over the summer and he wants to use the new cellular credit card swipe technology. VZW wants to give me a free MiFi and, geek that I am, it was painful to hold off. My cousin-in-law bought one and just LOVES it...but he's covered with 4G.
I've wanted a Mifi since they were released. We all use handheld devices in our house but no smartphones, and there are times when I would've liked to have used my iPad when shopping and on extended trips. I will NOT commit to an iPad with built-in LTE; the Mifi is much more versatile since we have laptops, Apple touches (2) and our son got the PSP VITA. We aren't covered by LTE yet -- something the VZW tech said *should* be coming to my area soon -- so I've bought myself a smaller bill until we make the plunge into another 2 year contract.
What I need to find out is whether or not the new swipe technology available for the iPhone and iPad REQUIRES the use of 3G/4G, or can you use the Mifi? I wonder if security issues would prevent that but need to do more research. | |
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join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY | Re: Tablets tied to carriers not a good idea Considering swipe can be using in a production environment over wifi I think you will be fine with a Mifi | |
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| | ecoPremium
join:2001-11-28
Wilmington, DE | By "swipe technology" I'm assuming you mean the Square reader? »www.squareup.com
If so yes, that will work over any type of connection, be it built in 3G/4G, mifi or the wifi connection in a store. It just needs a data connection of any kind. | |
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| | iPad HD? FYI Karl, it's not called iPad HD. There is no new name associated with it, so apple is just calling it the "iPad" | |
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join:2005-11-23
EARTH | Why? Would anyone get the LTE version when they can just tether? That's what I'm going to do with my iPhone 4S when I get the iPad, free data for the iPad! I already pay $25/mo for data on the iPhone, I shouldn't have to pay yet again!!! | |
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| | | Re: Why? Actually its called the NEW IPAD!!! | |
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| | BiggA
join:2005-11-23
EARTH | Re: Why? Excuse me, my NEW iPAD!!! When I get my NEW iPAD I'm going to tether off of my iPhone. | |
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| | cost to high Well they still use cheap labor overseas so cost of parts and put together of apple products and they have all that money the fanboys and girls from buy new toy everytime Then drop the price I think about hehehe. Without the cellphone company overcharge data crap wifi ok for my use. | |
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