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Upper Marlboro, MD
2 edits | Re: Downstream is nice but.... Symmetrical/all plans same upload download.  (NICE!) | |
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| Re: Downstream is nice but.... said by vic102482  :Symmetrical/same upload download. (NICE!) Oh damn! Niceeeeee  | |
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News Guy
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | Re: Downstream is nice but.... if they can make this work WOW
also NICE 100Mbps with in the network
i have always wondered why cable or even Verizon didnt do this with fiber | |
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Naples, FL
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| Re: Downstream is nice but.... said by baineschile :100mbs is a tough thing to do. Not necessarly technically, but people are always expecting improvement in the internet speed area. After 100mbs, it gets sticky. 99% of all ethernet cards out there are rated at 100, which means they cant get any higher than that. People would have to upgrade TONS of personal equipment (not only multiple aspects of hardware, but some OS software too) to get above 100. And most of the newer computers/cards have gigabit and that is becoming standard. | |
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Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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| Re: Downstream is nice but.... said by Cheese :said by baineschile :100mbs is a tough thing to do. Not necessarly technically, but people are always expecting improvement in the internet speed area. After 100mbs, it gets sticky. 99% of all ethernet cards out there are rated at 100, which means they cant get any higher than that. People would have to upgrade TONS of personal equipment (not only multiple aspects of hardware, but some OS software too) to get above 100. And most of the newer computers/cards have gigabit and that is becoming standard. My 4 1/2 year old laptop has a gigabit NIC.
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Woodbridge, VA
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| Re: Downstream is nice but.... said by dadkins :said by Cheese :said by baineschile :100mbs is a tough thing to do. Not necessarly technically, but people are always expecting improvement in the internet speed area. After 100mbs, it gets sticky. 99% of all ethernet cards out there are rated at 100, which means they cant get any higher than that. People would have to upgrade TONS of personal equipment (not only multiple aspects of hardware, but some OS software too) to get above 100. And most of the newer computers/cards have gigabit and that is becoming standard. My 4 1/2 year old laptop has a gigabit NIC. I've been using Gigabit since 2001. | |
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Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Downstream is nice but.... Beyond that ... many wireless routers - unless 'N' or better, are 54 or 108Mbps - and that doesn't include overhead.
Many wireless routers also have 100Mbps ports (haven't seen many that have GigE ports attached, unless they're the WAN port. | |
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Golden, CO | Re: Downstream is nice but.... My WRT310N is gigabit, but only on the LAN side (seriously). Then again, it's a $90 router. | |
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Woodbridge, VA
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2 edits | said by en102 :Beyond that ... many wireless routers - unless 'N' or better, are 54 or 108Mbps - and that doesn't include overhead. Many wireless routers also have 100Mbps ports (haven't seen many that have GigE ports attached, unless they're the WAN port. Just the opposite for me. My last three wireless routers each had 4 gigabit ports. And my current one is the first router I've owned that has a gigabit WAN port. | |
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Dekalb, IL | You can figure that 802.11 ABG will do 1/2 of their rated speed in actual throughput. I'm not sure on 802.11 N. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
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Phoenix, AZ
| said by dadkins :said by Cheese :said by baineschile :100mbs is a tough thing to do. Not necessarly technically, but people are always expecting improvement in the internet speed area. After 100mbs, it gets sticky. 99% of all ethernet cards out there are rated at 100, which means they cant get any higher than that. People would have to upgrade TONS of personal equipment (not only multiple aspects of hardware, but some OS software too) to get above 100. And most of the newer computers/cards have gigabit and that is becoming standard. My 4 1/2 year old laptop has a gigabit NIC. So does my cheapa$$ compaq i got at wal*mart.
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join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | Wow great now can LUS bring internet service to baytown?
50/50 wow great Comcast take note if you don't provide better service and fewer bonuses to your VP's you'll be in the dust | |
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join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO
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| said by baineschile :100mbs is a tough thing to do. Not necessarly technically, but people are always expecting improvement in the internet speed area. After 100mbs, it gets sticky. 99% of all ethernet cards out there are rated at 100, which means they cant get any higher than that. People would have to upgrade TONS of personal equipment (not only multiple aspects of hardware, but some OS software too) to get above 100. i think you MISSED that WITH IN THE NETWORK thing
so you cant pull all 100Mbps who cares its like being on any 100Mbps lan but you can share stuff with your buddies down the street at full wire speed
and yea show me any PC made in the last 10 years that DIDNT have atlest a 10/100 nic in it | |
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North York, ON
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| Re: Downstream is nice but.... said by elios :and yea show me any PC made in the last 10 years that DIDNT have atlest a 10/100 nic in it »www.apple.com/macbookair/
(I know, you can purchase an Ethernet dongle, but still, it doesn't come with it built-in.) | |
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Naples, FL
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| said by baineschile :100mbs is a tough thing to do. Not necessarly technically, but people are always expecting improvement in the internet speed area. Unless your in the Alexa top 500, your server is plugged into a 100 mbit port at the colo place, so over 100mbit is pointless. | |
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Elf Wizard
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Mullica Hill, NJ
| AT&T and Cox are screwed Nether one can compete with the 137 triple play. Uverse physically cannot deliver 30/30 while delivering HD and telephone and i doubt Cox would deploy DOCSIS 3 just to sink this.
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Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Norwich, CT | I'll take VIP Silver package please. looks like i'm moving to Lafayette. | |
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Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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| Re: I'll take VIP Silver package please. said by Harddrive :looks like i'm moving to Lafayette. May want to think twice:
»www.lafayettelouisiana.com/local···nfo.html
The median income for a household in the city is $35,996, and the median income for a family is $47,783. Males have a median income of $37,729 versus $23,606 for females. The per capita income for the city is $21,031. 16.3% of the population and 11.6% of families are below the poverty line. Out of the total population, 18.3% of those under the age of 18 and 14.5% of those 65 and older are living below the poverty line.
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Tuscaloosa, AL | Re: I'll take VIP Silver package please. Yes, median income is lower than in some places, but so is cost of living. | |
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Harddrive
Premium
join:2000-09-20
Norwich, CT
| why not. they have a city job that's right up my alley and pays more than twice the median income for a household.
Senior Communications Network Technician (LUS-Fiber) - $3,567-$4,459/month/DOE
Supervises and participates in taking escalated calls from users experiencing problems while subscribing to television, internet and telephone services over LUS’ Fiber communications system. Vocational technical school in electronics or equivalent telecommunications specialties. Working experience in computer networks, Cable TV networks, or telecommunications or an equivalent combination of education and experience. Substantial working experience in computer networks or telecommunications required. Accepting applications until Wednesday, January 7, 2009, at noon, or until filled.
or this job possibly:
Network Administrator (IS&T) - $4,257-$5,321/Month/DOE
Responsible for acquisitions, operations and maintenance of all personal computer networks owned by LCG, as well as planning and implementing future systems. BS in Computer Science with substantial experience in analyzing potential computer applications, preparing/evaluating specifications, as well as maintaining personal computer equipment with emphasis on installation, operations and maintenance of networks. Cisco experience strongly desired. Substantial experience with designing, installing, configuring, troubleshooting, and supporting a complex network of routers, switches, firewalls and security devices required. Accepting applications until Tuesday, December 2, 2008, at noon, or until filled.
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join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL
| Re: I'll take VIP Silver package please. Go for it! I've never been there myself, but I've known two people who lived there, and they liked it just fine.
Of course, the mistake you made was posting these jobs here. Now you're going to have a bit more competition if you apply. | |
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Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| said by Harddrive :why not. they have a city job that's right up my alley and pays more than twice the median income for a household. Based on previous Muni efforts, I wouldn't get too settled in because you probably won't have the job (or FTTH service) long. | |
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sic semper tyrannis
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join:2002-05-26
Salem, OR
2 edits | But the southern states have a lower cost of living in general than the other regions in the US as a whole, hence why the low percentage of the population below the poverty line
Actually Lafayette is pretty appealing considering that most rural southern areas are easily double, if not triple, Latayette's poverty line statistics.
Edit: I also want to add that Layfette's 18.3% of those under the age of 18 and 14.5% of those 65 and older are living below the poverty line is still below the state's average of 19.4%, the second highest in the nation.
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join:2005-11-19
Covington, LA | And you LIVE in New Jersey!
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GOLFnSUN
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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| Re: I'll take VIP Silver package please. said by charterbites :And you LIVE in New Jersey! AHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............ »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_···y_income
Median Household Income by State: 2007
1. Maryland – $68,080
2. New Jersey – $67,035
3. Connecticut – $65,967
45 Louisiana – $40,926
46 Alabama – $40,554
47 Kentucky – $40,267
48 Arkansas – $38,134
49 West Virginia – $37,060
50 Mississippi – $36,338
And you LIVE in Louisiana!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............
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| Re: I'll take VIP Silver package please. said by GOLFnSUN :said by charterbites :And you LIVE in New Jersey! AHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............ » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_···y_incomeMedian Household Income by State: 2007
1. Maryland – $68,080
2. New Jersey – $67,035
3. Connecticut – $65,967
45 Louisiana – $40,926
46 Alabama – $40,554
47 Kentucky – $40,267
48 Arkansas – $38,134
49 West Virginia – $37,060
50 Mississippi – $36,338
And you LIVE in Louisiana! AHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............ LOL. | |
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Gone playing Dragon Age Origins
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Jamestown, NC
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| said by GOLFnSUN :said by charterbites :And you LIVE in New Jersey! AHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............ » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_···y_incomeMedian Household Income by State: 2007
1. Maryland – $68,080
2. New Jersey – $67,035
3. Connecticut – $65,967
45 Louisiana – $40,926
46 Alabama – $40,554
47 Kentucky – $40,267
48 Arkansas – $38,134
49 West Virginia – $37,060
50 Mississippi – $36,338
And you LIVE in Louisiana! AHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............ Cost of Living
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join:2008-05-22
| Ouch ! quote:
Customers on network will communicate with other LUS customers at 100Mbps, notes LUS Director Terry Huval.
So, in other words, LUS is going to kill the local competition when it comes to PtP circuits. I don't even think you can 100Mbps PtP circuits for less than a grand. ATT and Cox are going to have some serious competition in Lafayette now for businesses needing connectivity between multiple locations.
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twizlar
I dont think so.
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join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON | nice Excellent job so far. Great packages and pricing, and even better network setup(100mbit within the network is such an attractive feature for businesses).
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join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO
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| Re: nice said by twizlar :Excellent job so far. Great packages and pricing, and even better network setup(100mbit within the network is such an attractive feature for businesses). yea all you have to do is get service at each end add in your favorite VPN hardware and software
dirtcheap PtP | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Re: Fantastic! They will be generating all that, a spam relay on 50 mbit upstream with residential IP is a spammers wet dream. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: Fantastic! said by patcat88 :They will be generating all that, a spam relay on 50 mbit upstream with residential IP is a spammers wet dream. not really, but it would be a botnet owners wet dream. would make nice XDCC bot too
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twizlar
I dont think so.
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join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON
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| Re: Wonder what unbundled internet pricing is... said by iansltx :By the way, I wonder how the headend of LUS is connected to the internet. Level3? Cogent? I'm sure they don't use ATT.net or Cox Business Services. Any wagers on the size of the backbone? I'm thinking GigE or NxGigE to start with... Looks like Qwest and at&t right now.
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Re: Wonder what unbundled internet pricing is... said by twizlar :said by iansltx :By the way, I wonder how the headend of LUS is connected to the internet. Level3? Cogent? I'm sure they don't use ATT.net or Cox Business Services. Any wagers on the size of the backbone? I'm thinking GigE or NxGigE to start with... Looks like Qwest and at&t right now. I dont know if this is their ASN, but it could be
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join:2002-01-21
Birmingham, AL | I hope they can pull this off if so its a win for everyone especially those areas in the US with similar plans | |
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komodo7d
join:2006-10-17
Lafayette, LA
| This is starting to get Interesting... first, karl, the local paper you are quoting is for Baton Rouge...the local paper for Lafayette is theadvertiser, but close enough...
This is getting interesting for me since I am in the first roll-out area. While I hadn't planned on changing providers, I will have an open mind, and it's not about price or even speed but dependable consistent performance. I'm fairly certain several people I know will change to LUS, so I'm thinking to test my equipment on their connection and see how it works...and I'm really curious to see the results.
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marrott
join:2008-05-23
Orem, UT | Service Details... Does anyone know what hardware they are using for the network? Middleware provider for their IPTV? Phone Switch? Normally you can find some press releases about who they have selected for some of this, and I haven't been able to find anything. | |
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Kfedka
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join:2005-05-06
Spokane, WA | Caps Sounds like some great speeds and since everyone these days are talking about the caps, what are they? | |
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| DarkLogix
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | Re: Caps I bet there won't be any caps on it anytime soon
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| FourWheelKid
join:2006-03-03
Broussard, LA
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| Re: Man all my family is down there.. said by SlickEnW :and i'm totatlly jeleous. I'm relocating soon but this is looking NICE. I don't think I'd want to be this close to some of my crazy family members for some japan like speeds so I guess i'll have to get fios when it comes out  How do you think *I* feel, I live maybe a half mile or so, maybe a bit more, outside of their deployment range. ;( | |
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@myvzw.com
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If you divide 1.2 by 32 customers that avgs about 38 Mbps per customer right? This is not an issue on the lower speeds, but on the 50Mbps package and the 100Mbps business package as well as the 100Mbps peer to peer this math doesn't seem to work out?
It's just more over subscribing knowing people will not be able to take full advantage right?
LUS also mentioned they would do no traffic management to avoid a situation like others got into with P2P. No traffic mgmt to me means no QoS and no priority given to business customers over regular customers.
What would they do if 20 businesses signed up for 100Mbps and they sat off the same PON? Must be a way for them to split that up a little more effectively right?
Currently according to info on lusnet.net they have two DS3's doesn't seem like hardly enough to handle the kind of bandwidth the plan on providing especially when you through in business customers.
Don't get me wrong I know it's technically better than what most others provide but I am not trying compare with others and just looking at the LUS system itself and the technology they are using and selling to customers.
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| Re: Alcatel-Lucent bonded ds3's can serve buildings of 2000 to 4000 users easily. Not everyone runs full bore full time.
No switch in the world can do all ports full bore lal the time either , I wouldn't worry about the nids just yet.
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| cyberbeing
join:2005-02-18
Sacramento, CA
1 edit | Chances are they may be using Active Ethernet FTTH and not GPON. AFAIK Alcatel-Lucent is split about 50/50 between PON and Active Ethernet deployments. With Active Ethernet, each home would get a 100Mbps dedicated (not shared) line which would seem to make the most sense in what they describe. | |
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join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
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Basic VIP – 84.85 Triple Play
80 Channels - $39.95
10 Mbps (up/down) 28.95
Phone $15.95 and .05 min LD
I am getting ~60 channels (actually less...),
12Mbps/1.5Mbps
For ~$95/month!
I dropped the VoIP service. It started at $25.00/month extra when I first got it. When I dropped it it was about $41.50/month! And all I called was local!
Can I get that anytime soon???
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | here's hoping... LUS kicks Cox's and ATT's asses and takes all their customers. | |
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fatmanskinny
Premium
join:2004-01-04
Wandering
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| How would you begin.... to get this implemented within your own city? What would be the starting point?
In Atlanta, we have AT&T and Comcast with sprinkles of Charter here and there.
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So fast, it's LIVE
join:2008-11-25
Collegeville, PA
| Internet speeds and price blow away the competition Comcast can't keep up with symmetrical speeds like that and not even Verizon FiOS has 30/30 or 50/50 symmetrical speeds yet. Fastest symmetrical speeds FiOS has is 20/20 for $65 which is still slower and more expensive. At least someone is getting the idea that symmetrical speeds are the way to go to meet future bandwidth needs.
Too bad we don't see these types of municipal FTTH rollouts with these kids of speeds and prices more often. | |
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as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: Internet speeds and price blow away the competition said by FiOS LIVE :Too bad we don't see these types of municipal FTTH rollouts with these kids of speeds and prices more often. Because A T & T / Qwest consume all the munis cash by fighting stuff like this so in the end your choices end up crappy. "30mbps upload? WHAT? You don't like our crappy 896kbps upload max that you give up 15% of due to our crappy tired old PPPoE"
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: Internet speeds and price blow away the competition Amen brother. I'd use DSL if it even closely competed with cable. It doesn't with Qwest.
Seriously guys, roll out fiber already. I need my megabit upload | |
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join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| said by FiOS LIVE :Comcast can't keep up with symmetrical speeds like that and not even Verizon FiOS has 30/30 or 50/50 symmetrical speeds yet. Fastest symmetrical speeds FiOS has is 20/20 for $65 which is still slower and more expensive. At least someone is getting the idea that symmetrical speeds are the way to go to meet future bandwidth needs. Too bad we don't see these types of municipal FTTH rollouts with these kids of speeds and prices more often. For the most part, municpal and 3rd party builds have been DOA or on life support (RCN) for some time (in the northeast).. and yes, this proves Verizon can still offer faster speeds for a lower price... but choose not to because cable companies have not answered the challenge of offering more speed for significantly less money. Cablevision's triple play @ $29.95 does come close to the LUS comparable entry level plan, though with slower upstream speeds & more catv channels. | |
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dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN | Death Pool Anyone interested in a Muni Death Pool for this service? Since it's not being sold yet, I'll be generous and predict August 13, 2010. | |
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join:2000-04-24
Clarksville, TN
| Re: Death Pool Our Muni fiber is dying...sold to the public as a bunch of "pipe" dreams...shockingly they were wrong. Muni's should stick to what they are good at doing..selling power. Stop trying to be everything to everybody.
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Lafayette Unveils FTTH Pricing
