 MurdocPremium join:2009-02-08 Manitowoc, WI | Survey says att sucks Not suprising, considering that guy that sold out to att to chuck them pieces of paper all over for that tv advertisement. Bet no one will hire him for a movie  | |
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 |  en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Re: Survey says att sucks AT&T has gone even below that of... Sprint  | |
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Actually, I think Sprint sucks less than Verizon now when it comes to pricing/policy. Since Sprint roams on Verizon, coverage seems to be moot as well. | |
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 |  GbcueAlmost P.E.Premium join:2001-09-30 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:8 Reviews:
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| said by Murdoc:Not suprising, considering that guy that sold out to att to chuck them pieces of paper all over for that tv advertisement. Bet no one will hire him for a movie Not surprised that AT&T is the last. -- My BLOG! Black Friday Ads | |
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 |  |  thenderScreen tycoonPremium join:2009-01-01 Brooklyn, NY kudos:1 | Re: Survey says att sucks I am, considering google maps always works fast and flawlessly on my touchcreen blackberry 9530 storm touch phone on the robust AT&T 3G & EDGE network. -- Macbook repair in NYC | |
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 |  |  |  |  thenderScreen tycoonPremium join:2009-01-01 Brooklyn, NY kudos:1 Reviews:
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considering the Storm is a Verizon exclusive I'm calling BS on your ATT Storm ni EDGE a) storm can be unlocked
b) anyone who follows gbcue's posts knows why I posted that.  -- Macbook repair in NYC | |
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EDIT: Unless you have a "World Phone" that has both CDMA and GSM Radios in it. I haven't seen very many of them lately. | |
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| Re: Survey says att sucks said by Simba7:..and you don't know anything about CDMA and GSM Technologies. They are NOT interchangable. EDIT: Unless you have a "World Phone" that has both CDMA and GSM Radios in it. I haven't seen very many of them lately. You're telling me I don't know anything about CDMA and GSM technologies but you're the one who doesn't know that the storm is a world phone?
GTFO!!!!!! -- Macbook repair in NYC | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  Simba7 join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT 1 edit | Re: Survey says att sucks said by thender:You're telling me I don't know anything about CDMA and GSM technologies but you're the one who doesn't know that the storm is a world phone? GTFO!!!!!! Wow.. Someone actually sells a true World Phone still. That's freakin' amazing.. I thought they quit doing that a few years back. I guess the only exception is certain Blackberries.
Excuse the fsck out of me. I might actually look into getting a Storm2, especially if I can stick *ANY* SIM card in it. -- Bresnan 15M/1M|MyWS[P4HT@4.01GHz,2GB RAM,2x1TB HDDs,Win7]|WifeWS[P4@2.4GHz,1GB RAM,60GB HDD,Win7]|Router[2xP3@1GHz,640MB RAM,18GB HDD,Allied Telesyn AT-2560FX,Kingston KNE100TX,2xDigital DE504,Compaq NC3131,iPro/1000DP,Blitz BWI715,Gentoo Linux] | |
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| Re: Survey says att sucks It is a god awful phone. The storm 1 at least. I sincerely doubt from what I read and see that the storm 2 falls far from the failtree. -- Macbook repair in NYC | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium join:2002-10-04 Alexandria, VA | Re: Survey says att sucks said by thender:It is a god awful phone.  The storm 1 at least. I sincerely doubt from what I read and see that the storm 2 falls far from the failtree. Unfortunately, the Gen 1 Droid is not a "world phone".  -- The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  TomekPremium join:2002-01-30 Valley Stream, NY | Re: Survey says att sucks said by nixen:said by thender:It is a god awful phone.  The storm 1 at least. I sincerely doubt from what I read and see that the storm 2 falls far from the failtree. Unfortunately, the Gen 1 Droid is not a "world phone". Waiting for Moto Milestone to be released with TMO compatible 3G -- Semper Fi | |
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| said by thender:It is a god awful phone.  The storm 1 at least. I sincerely doubt from what I read and see that the storm 2 falls far from the failtree. Correction: shouldn't that be EPICFAILTREE! -- The weekend is here, grab a can of beer!
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium join:2002-10-04 Alexandria, VA | said by Simba7:..and you don't know anything about CDMA and GSM Technologies. They are NOT interchangable. EDIT: Unless you have a "World Phone" that has both CDMA and GSM Radios in it. I haven't seen very many of them lately. The Storm is a "World Phone". It's the only reason why, as a VZW customer, I bought a Storm in the first place. I had to travel to Europe, for work, but work's wireless agreements were with VZW. -- The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  atuarreHere come the drumsPremium join:2004-02-14 College Station, TX 3 edits | Re: Survey says att sucks Actually, the storm can be made to work on AT&T's network, but it's a pain in the ass to do. Only EDGE is available on the Storm/Storm2. 3G speeds are not available in the US on GSM but are available internationally on those carriers GSM networks. 3G speeds are available in the US on CDMA. The user might be using the storm/storm2 with ATT's slower EDGE service but he is not getting 3G speeds. The Blackberry Storm/Storm2 has a CDMA and GSM radio. | |
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 |  timburkePremium join:2005-06-07 Romeoville, IL kudos:1 | At least AT&T are better than T-Mobile...
... but they still suck. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Survey says att sucks you kidding me?! ... T-Mobile EDGE had BETTER SPEED on my old phone than my AT&T iPhone has ever had while on their EDGE network.... t-mo edge is actually A LOT more stable | |
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 | | Lame AT&T Commercials AT&T's latest commercials, which have been in direct response to Verizon's commercials against AT&T, has been weak. The guy "collecting" postcards from places AT&T provides coverage (many cases, just Edge) is boring and just side skirts the issue that AT&T doesn't have the same 3G coverage that Verizon does. Sure, some people with Edge are satisfied, just as some people with 56K dial-up may have been satisfied. | |
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 |  morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000 | Re: Lame AT&T Commercials Agreed--however, Joe Consumer doesn't know the difference between what AT&T is saying and what Verizon is saying. All they remember is whatever the latest commercial told them. | |
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 |  |  en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Re: Lame AT&T Commercials Baahh...bahhh. Many consumers are a little sheepish. Follow the herd into iPhone... complaints R us, and believe what the commercials will tell them.
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Still, in my opinion, AT&T's commercials completely lack any creativity and are simply boring and lame. I'm no Verizon fanboy, I gave AT&T the chance, and they didn't deliver my world. | |
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 |  MadnessLike a flea circus at a dog show join:2000-01-05 Quincy, MA kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Luke Wilson tossing the postcards all over the map. I really cracked up on that one. The TRUE AT&T once had a bell on the left! -- Guy: Sign here please. Me: *signs Y* Guy: Why sign it as, "Y?" Me: Because "X" is already taken! | |
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 |  RARPSL join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY | said by Turbocpe:AT&T's latest commercials, which have been in direct response to Verizon's commercials against AT&T, has been weak. The guy "collecting" postcards from places AT&T provides coverage (many cases, just Edge) is boring and just side skirts the issue that AT&T doesn't have the same 3G coverage that Verizon does. Sure, some people with Edge are satisfied, just as some people with 56K dial-up may have been satisfied. WHAT type of coverage? They do not say in the Ad. They IMPLY that they are talking about 3G coverage but I get the impression they are using VOICE (or as you suggest EDGE) coverage as their measurement tool. At least the Verizon Ads STATE they are talking about 3G coverage (with the mention in the explanation bar on the maps, that EDGE coverage may be available in areas not covered by 3G). | |
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 La LunaSurvived AshrafulPremium join:2001-07-12 Warwick, NY kudos:3 | I don't know..... ..... AT&T gives me the best coverage, including in my home where all other carriers fail. I don't care about "iPhone", I don't use one; I just want my cell to work and it does.
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 |  | | Re: I don't know..... said by La Luna:..... AT&T gives me the best coverage, including in my home where all other carriers fail. I don't care about "iPhone", I don't use one; I just want my cell to work and it does. Amen! We take a yearly trip to Warwick for apple picking. Wile on the NOTwork (Verizon) I could never get decent service at the orchard or many places along the way. With AT&T it's great service all around there.
I've compared both and both have their strengths and weaknesses and from my experience AT&T works better than Verizon where I am. | |
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| Re: I don't know..... said by itguy05: We take a yearly trip to Warwick for apple picking. Wile on the NOTwork (Verizon) I could never get decent service at the orchard or many places along the way. With AT&T it's great service all around there. That's interesting. Is that Warwick NY? I visit a friend there, and have "No Service" from AT&T. My friend's cell, VZ has 5 bars. I have to switch to her WIFI to use my iPhone there. I have driven around the area, and sometimes get 1 shaky bar.
Bob -- Would you ever go over to Czechoslovakia, and marry me daughter for me?" | |
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 MRCUR join:2007-03-09 Columbia, PA | Is anyone surprised? I'm certainly not. Like I've said before, my issue with AT&T isn't their low 3G coverage - there's 3G where I need it. My issue is the 3G network is just crap. I just got a Bold 9700 (coming from a 3GS) and it jumps around like crazy. Five bars of 3G one second, five bars of EDGE the next. Top that off with calls ALWAYS dropping down to the slowest of slow: GPRS.
I continue to complain on AT&T and one of their reps always calls to discuss my concerns with the network. Every time I'm left with "well, the 3G coverage just isn't that strong in your area." What do I say to that? Gee, thanks. Maybe your coverage map should represent that??? | |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | AT&T Prepares to Sue Consumer Reports... ... for telling the truth.
"It's not fair." says CEO Randall Stephenson. "They are just publishing Verizon propaganda."
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 sykocusWatashi Wa Shashin O Toru Ga Suki DesuPremium join:2002-11-21 Guam, USA | typical Evidently ATT's claim of a "better 3g 'exerperiance'" doesn't include customer service. | |
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | Kudos to Verizon
I loved being able to take my usual trip to Tennessee and have 3G the whole way. Slacker radio steamed on the entire 7 hour trip without a single hiccup and having Google Navigation on my Droid was killer. It was totally worth paying AT&T's ETF to be rid of them. -- trafficcloak.com - pptp/sstp vpn services | |
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| Commercials AT&T's commercials only talk about the area they cover with voice service. Verizon was talking about their lack of 3G coverage. So someone missed the point over at AT&T. And with these 2 companies bickering like a married couple, why bother with either of them. | |
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 |  Rob2647 join:2008-08-12 Rochester, MI | Re: T-Mobile Maybe in CA, around here, they are far behind. | |
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| Use what works best for you... ... and for me, it is Verizon Wireless. Despite AT&T having a cellular band and VZW only a PCS band (at the time), VZW has a better call quality at my home and in the rural places I travel. AT&T has so so quality varying from good to lousy all within minutes. Most of the AT&T users I know live in a neighboring county or are smartphone users.
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 | | You know it's funny.... I have had zero issues till about a week ago, now my calls are dropping, i get 5 bars of 3G but no service, but overall i am quite satisfied & these issues only happen on the train.
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| The difference isn't that great to warrant the "not kind", "dead last", "tail end", etc. verbiage.
The difference between Verizon and AT&T is in the 10% range. Not twice as good. Not 50% better. 10% better.
All wireless services suck to some extent in some ways. National surveys aren't very helpful.
People should choose based on what works for them where they want to use it. I was a diehard Sprint customer until I moved across town and there was zero bars in my new house. Went with AT&T and didn't look back. Excellent coverage here in Austin.
And when traveling through West Texas, there's always coverage, even when there's no gas stations for 100 miles on the way to El Paso on I-10 ... not 3G but you don't need that to make a call now do you? | |
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Their customer "service," on the other hand, is just abysmal, and it's the reason why I'll drop them like a bad habit when and if I can get an iPhone on a different provider... | |
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 | | at&t and CR Let's not forget that this is from a magazine that while they say they are non-biased can be ANYTHING further from the truth. Ever wonder why in so many appliance reviews Kenmore always beats the SAME Whirlpool? Because one of the top people at CR is a former Sears head. Lets also not forget this is a mag that endorses a vehicle brand that has had more safety related recalls, crashes and deaths than ANY other brand...................Toyota. That is NOT an opinion btw its a fact. Look it up. But CR thinks they walk on water. Lets not forget how they trashed Audi for a VERY similar issue than the latest Toyota issue. Did Audi deserve the criticism? You BET. Does Toyota? You BET! Does Toyota get trashed by CR? No! CR SUCKS and the people are ANYTHING but non-biased. | |
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| Depends on the area AT&T works great at my home and my office, yet if I go to my parents house less than an hour away I barely get a signal.
Also AT&T's signals seem to have a hard time penetrating buildings with a lot of metal in them. There's a metal building that I go to that's a dead zone for AT&T, but Verizon works fine there. --
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 |  SeleniaI love DebianPremium join:2006-09-22 Lanesboro, MA kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Re: Depends on the area said by Morac:AT&T works great at my home and my office, yet if I go to my parents house less than an hour away I barely get a signal. Also AT&T's signals seem to have a hard time penetrating buildings with a lot of metal in them. There's a metal building that I go to that's a dead zone for AT&T, but Verizon works fine there. 1 of 2 things...either the VZW tower is very close to that metal building, making the building's attenuation less than the signal strength. Other possibility is VZW is using the 850 MHz CDMA band while ATT is using 1900 MHz GSM or 2100 MHz(which they sometimes use for UMTS, which you didn't happen to mention whether it was a UMTS area). That would greatly depend on area which bands are used by which carrier. In another area, VZW may be using the 1850 MHz CDMA band while AT&T is using the 850 MHz GSM band. Sometimes, it's all on the terrain and where there is available spectrum for another provider. I mention this because in some areas, you'll probably observe the opposite, as to building penetration. AT&T uses alot of 1900MHz here in the small city of Pittsfield, with some 850 in outlying areas of the county. They seem to have enough towers here though to get away with 1900. | |
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| Re: Depends on the area said by Selenia:said by Morac:AT&T works great at my home and my office, yet if I go to my parents house less than an hour away I barely get a signal. Also AT&T's signals seem to have a hard time penetrating buildings with a lot of metal in them. There's a metal building that I go to that's a dead zone for AT&T, but Verizon works fine there. 1 of 2 things...either the VZW tower is very close to that metal building, making the building's attenuation less than the signal strength. Other possibility is VZW is using the 850 MHz CDMA band while ATT is using 1900 MHz GSM or 2100 MHz(which they sometimes use for UMTS, which you didn't happen to mention whether it was a UMTS area). That would greatly depend on area which bands are used by which carrier. In another area, VZW may be using the 1850 MHz CDMA band while AT&T is using the 850 MHz GSM band. Sometimes, it's all on the terrain and where there is available spectrum for another provider. I mention this because in some areas, you'll probably observe the opposite, as to building penetration. AT&T uses alot of 1900MHz here in the small city of Pittsfield, with some 850 in outlying areas of the county. They seem to have enough towers here though to get away with 1900. I don't know the frequency (not sure how I could figure that out), but I can't get either a 3G or Edge signal.
According to this map both 850 and 1900 are in my area. My phone supports either so I don't know which one it would pick. --
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