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And it's 'Windows Vista'
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Microsoft has decided to name its newest operating system "Windows Vista". The company also this week made some performance promises, according to Microsoft Watch; namely that the OS would boot 50% faster than XP, and applications would launch 15% faster. This comes on the heels of the announcement of several security changes, such as not doling out admin rights to users by default.

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BillRoland
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Superfetch

Well there is already one "Longhorn Enhancement" floating around the Microsoft forum that just happens to work for XP too if you turn it on. And Windows Vista? Can't we just go back to Windows 2006.
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Re: Superfetch

Not to meantion with the OS DRM inclusions, they might as well already bundle it as Windows: Crap Edition.
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Re: Superfetch

DRM = Crap is right. There is no damn way I am ever going to spend on an OS that limits me more in the future than today or in the past!
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Only 15% faster launch?

Windows will never be as fast as my first computer, with it's O/S built-in on a ROM CHIP!!! Turn it on, and it's ready instantly! GIVE ME BACK THOSE DAYS!
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Re: Superfetch

Yeah...nothing like "computing" without pictures, sound, colors other than green or white, and, oh yeah, mp3's

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Re: Superfetch

said by roady1 See Profile:

Yeah...nothing like "computing" without pictures, sound, colors other than green or white, and, oh yeah, mp3's
You know, that's really unfair. You forgot amber.

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Re: Superfetch

said by Goober See Profile:

said by roady1 See Profile:

Yeah...nothing like "computing" without pictures, sound, colors other than green or white, and, oh yeah, mp3's
You know, that's really unfair. You forgot amber.
YOU forgot blue.

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Re: Superfetch

Blue?

I guess didn't forget it, I don't ever recall seeing it. My earliest computing experiences go back as far as Apple IIs (green) and TRS-80s (b&w) in the late '70s and amber in the early 80s.

Maybe blue came before or after?

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Re: Superfetch

I don't know if it came before or after, but it was around in the early 80s. Obviously, it wasn't as popular as the green, white or amber ones.
Has anyone ever seen a red monochrome CRT?

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I don't know if it came before or after, but it was around in the early 80s. Obviously, it wasn't as popular as the green, white or amber ones.
Has anyone ever seen a red monochrome CRT?
I never have. But, I used to do level 2 tech support many years ago on this really large red/orange plasma displays that could display 4 different sessions on the same screen.

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"Windows 2006" > "Windows Vista" !

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Re: Superfetch

Some can now call it hastla la vista
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You might want to know that Superfetch is all just a placebo effect. All people are doing is creating a registry key that does absolutely nothing in XP.

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well, i guess if you had $60 billion liquid cash you could name it whatever you wanted...
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What Windows Vista equals

=

»www.rallybc.com/photos/2001/novi···colt.jpg

My mom used to own an Eagle Vista, which is the same car as that colt pictured above, except replace the 'COLT' nameplate on the front with the Eagle logo, and on the back it said Eagle on the left side and Vista on the right side above the tail lights. What a slow piece of shit that car was, a carburated 1.5L... ouch!

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said by BillRoland See Profile:

And Windows Vista? Can't we just go back to Windows 2006.
Hehe.... I remember that from 10 years ago:

"And Windows 95?? Can't we just call it 4.0?"
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meh...

i prefered "longhorn" over "vista"
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Re: meh...

Same here.
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Re: meh...

Personally, I think they should have just named it Windows 64 XP.... it's bound to have 64 times the problems the initial Windows XP had.

By the way, it took great restraint from typing out WinDoughs ... even though it has a GUI interface; it only goes to show it's likely only half baked !!

Pehaps it's in need of a good kneeding?

Oh, what will that sick individual come up with next????
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I hope people don't get too excited about booting up 50% faster.

Because if the OS is rock solid and manages all resources nicely you won't hardly need to reboot. How about that.

I'm guessing tech support will find it enjoyable though. Less dead time on phone waiting for reboots.

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Re: meh...

if vista go boot up 50% faster then XP, imagine how fast it would load if u install it on a raptor drive
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Re: meh...

imagine how fast any OS would boot on a solid state disk
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Re: meh...

One of the techs at my work put Windows 98 on a 1 Gig Solid State Disk.
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Heh cool_coda, I think tech support will be disappointed exactly BECAUSE there´s less dead time on the phone waiting for reboots. The less calls they get, the less work they have. Take a look at dell for instance, they keep the same guy on the phone for 2 hours, at times, and 1 hour minimum.
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I appreciate the faster reboot...but that is not my main excitement

Reboots for software installs. Certain ones of course. And certain hardware changes.

Not to mention windows updates. (Unless of course this is a perfect OS with no updates ever needed. )

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Re: meh...

said by rgillis70 See Profile:

Reboots for software installs.
Why can't Microsoft build an OS that elimantes software reboots? New technoligy,new century still using a century old need to reboot software installs ? Why is that
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Re: meh...

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Why can't Microsoft build an OS that elimantes software reboots? New technoligy,new century still using a century old need to reboot software installs ? Why is that
I don't know.

But I wish they would.

I am just glad that Office Installs, or changing IP's no longer requires it.

Frustrating....

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said by rgillis70 See Profile:

Reboots for software installs.
Why can't Microsoft build an OS that elimantes software reboots? New technoligy,new century still using a century old need to reboot software installs ? Why is that
Ever had any experiences with setting up a computer for connecting to a Novell NetWare domain? After installing the client, you set the IPs. After setting the IPs, it asks you to reboot. Won't work unless you do.

I decided one day to find out where in the registry the IPs are stored and set them that way. Great, it worked out but the client still needed a reboot. I made two simple Strings for the IPs.

You see the problem? It writes the data, and will not re-read those two simple strings unless you reboot! Whoop-de-friggin-do!!!! 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of other programs write info in the registry and they don't require a reboot to re-read information! You know what? Basically Network Connections does the same, in regards to writing the settings into the registry. You certainly don't see the OS asking you to reboot after changing the NIC properties. Heck, you don't even need to reboot to reinstall/install a NIC driver.

If anything, I think 3rd-party software needs improvement. When Sun Java asks for a reboot, it works fine without . Same for VNC, Alcohol 120%, ...
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quote:
I hope people don't get too excited about booting up 50% faster.
I think almost every version of Windows has claimed to boot faster than its predecessor, which is obviously a bunch of horsesh*t.

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Re: meh...

said by djrobx See Profile:

I think almost every version of Windows has claimed to boot faster than its predecessor, which is obviously a bunch of horsesh*t.
That is true isn't it.

I honestly don't look forward to paying for the new version. I wonder if anyone is already in line at Fry's for the midnight release.
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With the hardware requirements of "vista" (how lame) it SHOULD boot faster! But 15% on applications? Who's going to notice it?

The 50% faster boot they claim being better than XP... XP gave you a desktop faster because it also changed the order of how some services loaded giving you the appearance that it loaded faster when in reality, you were still "booting" even though you had your desktop. So I guess that slow down for the first minute or so was OK in M/S eyes?

But seriously, where I have the REAL problem is the damn name! Are they selling douche? or advanced technology? If I wanted douche, I would buy summers eve!

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said by Julio See Profile:

i prefered "longhorn" over "vista"
I concur. Vista sounds gay; longhorn owned.

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Re: meh...

What idiot named it that. Thats a horrible name.

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Re: meh...

The same idiot who named the xbox360, I woulda preferred Ybox or just xbox2 or X2 or something..I used to be excited about longhorn but now that its vista..maybe everyone will still call it longhorn i know i will.
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said by icex _ See Profile:

said by Julio See Profile:

i prefered "longhorn" over "vista"
I concur. Vista sounds gay; longhorn owned.
Yea, and next thing you know, there will be a constitutional amendment banning the name Vista since it sounds "gay" too right?

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Re: meh...

said by fiberguy See Profile:

said by icex _ See Profile:

said by Julio See Profile:

i prefered "longhorn" over "vista"
I concur. Vista sounds gay; longhorn owned.
Yea, and next thing you know, there will be a constitutional amendment banning the name Vista since it sounds "gay" too right?
It is a frigging name. Who cares? I care about performance! NOT A FRIGGING NAME!
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I agree should have kept longhorn.

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A rose by any name smells the same. I don't care what they call it as long as the security enhancements are everything that they are claiming. A little better GUI, a little faster, are all nice things to have. But real security enhancements is what could make me pay money to switch to Vista.
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same here

i liked "whistler" better than "eXPerience" too

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They should have called it "Las Ventanas Vista" if they were going for a Latino feel.

Does it play an Arnold Schwartzanegger sample, "Hasta la vista, baby?" when it BSODs?

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Re: meh...

said by djrobx See Profile:

Does it play an Arnold Schwartzanegger sample, "Hasta la vista, baby?" when it BSODs?

LOL!;)

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Talk about a plain name

I wonder who was in the focus group who thought Vista was a good name.
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Re: Talk about a plain name

Focus group was all bunch of LINUX guys

LOL.
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Re: Talk about a plain name

One needs a crappy name to go with a crappy Os, eh?

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said by R4M0N See Profile:

I wonder who was in the focus group who thought Vista was a good name.
In a DSLR Exclusive, I tracked down the chairman on the group. You draw your own conclusions.
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Whats behind the catchy sounding name

Even with a catchy sounding name, is the new OS even worth getting? Does it have enough enhancements and upgrades to make it worthwhile for people to spend the money to switch from XP? Any company can give a product a catching sounding name but most people are looking at the substance.

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Re: Whats behind the catchy sounding name

Beg to differ, viper - I would agree that most people who visit THIS site will be looking at the substance, as have we all ever since the first hints of Longhorn surfaced. However, in the grand scheme of things, now that Microsoft has come up with this catchy play-on-words name, it's a pretty safe bet that that is all it will take to bring the pundits and analysts out of the woodwork to say "It's FABULOUS! STUPENDOUS! INCREDIBLY NEW! YOU"LL LOVE IT!!!" and the masses will eat it up without wondering what it's made of, which is exactly what the marketing folks in Redmond want.
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I'm sure that MS has come up with something more based on their OSX research than just a moderately catchy name over the past few years.

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for me it's worth the upgrade. i have a AMD 64 CPU and windows vista is supposed to be a 64-bit OS.
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So ghey

Includes rainbow desktop as default.

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You know....

Insulting something by calling it gay or ghey is really the mark of an unimaginative mind.

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Re: You know....

said by Hel See Profile:

Insulting something by calling it gay or ghey is really the mark of an unimaginative mind.
You are right. How about Queer then?
The name "Windows Vista" is Queer!
Satisfied?
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Re: You know....

said by spewak See Profile:

said by Hel See Profile:

Insulting something by calling it gay or ghey is really the mark of an unimaginative mind.
You are right. How about Queer then?
The name "Windows Vista" is Queer!
Satisfied?
Queer eye for the PC Guy?
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Re: You know....

Gee! They actually make it sound like it's a REAL OS.
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said by spewak See Profile:

said by Hel See Profile:

Insulting something by calling it gay or ghey is really the mark of an unimaginative mind.
You are right. How about Queer then?
The name "Windows Vista" is Queer!
Satisfied?
I'll just have to get the new OS then for my computers. Along with the Rainbow desktop that someone else mentioned!

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Actually, since XP is Windows eXPerience, Windows Vista follows on a theme. "Gay" or not is immaterial. I'm sure the "Vista" name will only stick around for a short time, as "eXPerience" did when first released. They'll have some cute, truncated monicker for it by then.

By the way, calling something "Gay", or, "ghey" seems to be another sign of a intellectually bankrupt mind. It's usually a sign that that mind has nothing of substance to contribute so it just thrashes around so as to have something "controversial" to say to deflect attention from that fact.

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Stupid stupid stupid name

I could of came up with a better name.. Hell a 10 year old can come up with a better name.
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Re: Stupid stupid stupid name

Right....

...so why didn't contact Microsoft and spread your wisdom?

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better off with...

they would have better off calling it 7.0 (or what ever # they.re up to next
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Re: better off with...

6.0

Xp 5.1
2000 5.0
NT 4.0

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Re: better off with...

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6.0

Xp 5.1
2000 5.0
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Re: better off with...

DOH!

Forgot that one.

But I really believe that this will be 6.0.

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Windows Vista sounds to much like Buena Vista. Small world after all.
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vis·ta
n.

1. A distant view or prospect, especially one seen through an opening, as between rows of buildings or trees.
An avenue or other passage affording such a view.
2. An awareness of a range of time, events, or subjects; a broad mental view: “the deep and sweeping vistas these pioneering critics opened up” (Arthur C. Danto).

[Italian, from feminine past participle of vedere, to see, from Latin vidçre.]

That which is or can be seen: lookout, outlook, panorama, perspective, prospect, scene, sight, view. See see/not see.

... personally the first thing I thought of was Del Boca Vista. Go Seinfeld! So now I'll think of the new Microsoft OS as a retirement home...

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Vista = Sight

in spanish Vista means sight, i wonder if it has anything to do with something in the OS... interesting.
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Re: Vista = Sight

You mean US not OS. The mexicans are moving in, can't you see. Microsoft wants to let you know LOL

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Longhorn, Foghorn...

Why not just call it XP 1.5?


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Translation

Microsoft Speak: "would boot 50% faster than XP, and applications would launch 15% faster"

Translation: Hardware requirements have doubled from that of XP SP2. Minimum recommended drive speed is now SATA.

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Take a lot more than a name...

...to get users to switch. I'm been trying out Longhorn and have yet to see anything compelling. It's not much more of a remodel over XP as MCE is.

They will have to have this compelling element in there if they hope to move people from XP. Boot times and launch times aren't going to do it. And neither or default user credential changes.

They'll need something "pretty" in there to get the majority of Win users to switch. Originally they were talking a major overhaul in the GUI with improved graphics, translucent menus and the like. It was supposed to be 'visually stunning'.
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dumb

Stupidest name ever. But, I guess we expect that from the least innovative company ever.

The upgrade for Windows is simple: OSX. Stability and compatibility - it's got it all now!

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new computer

I imagine that most people who are going to be using this initially are going to be people who buy new computers, not ones who upgrade from XP
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My bologna has a first name.

It's O-S-C-A-R.

But as to Vista, it's a fine name. I like it. It's pleasant and unassuming. Though I have no interest in ever USING the software.

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Re: My bologna has a first name.

I bet you will be one of the first in line at Vest Vuy reserving Vista lol

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dumb!

Thats the dumbest name I ever heard. Sounds like a vacation resort or something.

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I Like The Original Idea

I remember reading articles about a year or more ago where the rumor was Longhorn was going to be called XP second edition. So what will they end up naming Black Comb?
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Re: I Like The Original Idea

said by ArchAngel21x See Profile:

I remember reading articles about a year or more ago where the rumor was Longhorn was going to be called XP second edition. So what will they end up naming Black Comb?
Windows Barney Edition (BE)
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How many companies/corps?

Well, the new OS sounds nice, but how many of those companies/corps out there is willing to spend money to upgrade to 64bits hardwares to take advances of the OS? I doubt my company will be one, and that's CitiGroup to you.

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