Santa Barbara, CA
Re: Only way this happens is
said by Duramax08:TWICE
idunno, California is pretty crazy. After all, they elected a movie star for governor.
Re: Listen up Verizon and AT&T Who is going to fork up $3 to $5 billion, just to have the city strictly regulate your pricing and require you to offer open access? No one is going to do that.
next, up? ok, put some names in the barrel (who has several billion dollars in cash) and select one:
google, at&t, sprint, Vodafone, Microsoft, apple, dish network, Heinz (yep, the ketchup people), Intel, etc
Last I heard California and the biggest cities such as LA were going broke... unless there's been some huge turnaround that never got published anywhere. IMO, NYC is more likely to get a deal than LA... since this land was built on fiber optics--they're just not in a rush to shove it down residential consumers' throats at high prices yet-- maybe in another 2-5 years.
BTW, the 3rd party leasing/provider option is DOA no matter who you get to invest the money.
One last thing.. doesn't AT&T own the vast majority of the backbone fiber that runs through California?
Santa Monica, CA
·Time Warner Cable
The key word is "looking" Los Angeles City has been fundamentally overdrawn and bankrupt, fiscally and morally, for some time now.
They can't meet their basic pension obligations, trim the trees, fix the sidewalks, repair potholes or repave streets, map water and sewer lines, keep the lights on and the libraries open - functions that neighboring cities like Burbank, Glendale, Pasadena, Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, and Culver City achieve with their eyes closed. (Don't get me started on public safety and the fire department.)
But they're going to get fiber to the people for less than Time Warner charges for service people actually buy ($15/month for 2M Internet Lite). Sure.
This is just a setup for another tax and bond measure, to feed billions to the DWP and the IBEW. Fortunately, it will fail, on day one. The people didn't fall for the "Solar Roofing" measure, they're not going to fall for the sidewalk or pothole tax. Homeowners aren't too keen on their $32 Billion in post-Prop-13 school taxes being used to buy iPads. They're not going to buy in to Fiber Fever.
The city could simply stop taking over 20% of the DWP's revenues for their own use, and require the utility to refund those monies to customers, who could then decide for themselves, whether or not they wanted to order cable modem service, which clearly will deliver fiber-like speeds soon enough.
Re: The key word is "looking"
said by TBBroadband:Like the have a problem now. Hah
... the NSA would have no problems at all getting what they want.
Cool... havin' "a gig in LA" will take on a whole new meaning.
Los Angeles, CA
I live in Los Angeles and all I have to say about this is.... ....April 1st has come 6 months early.
A skeptic I concur. On the surface this appears to be folly. But, like many municipalities in the past, the mere threat of a fiber build may actually be a ploy by LA to "motivate" the existing franchisees to up their game and offer higher speed services. This will happen no matter what with the deployment of DOCSIS 3.1 by the cable operators.
In my opinion, LA would be better served by funding research and education facilities that would advance DOCSIS 3.1, LTE & 5G, and Fiber to the Antenna (FTTA) & HetNets. Then offering seed money for innovators.
Technology-wise, we ought to watch what Reliance Infotel and Airtel are doing in Mumbai and Delhi. Most customers will connect using high-speed, broadly-deployed LTE using MiFi. It's ambitious. And they are rolling out Active Ethernet, GPON, GEPON, and EPON where each makes sense, especially for MDUs and Private Metro-Nets.
The question we need answered are these:
How ought LA be developing Internet connectivity in order to foster sustainable growth?
What is standing in the way?
What can be done now and in increments?
At the end of the day, what will be the result?
Really, what's the problem LA is trying to solve?
I've built networks like this across the USA. It can be done well, but more often than not, it is not sustainable.
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Granite City, IL
only thought I would be impressed if this actually gets up off the ground. To be brutally honest, I wouldn't expect any of the big buys (cable, DSL, or even wireless) to make a bid on that, and live with those restrictions.
I don't think even Google would be this dumb.
Then again, I got $5 for the bet someone will be.
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Los Angeles, CA
·Time Warner Cable
Re: LA's plan is "as plausible as finding a unicorn" Maybe there's hope Google will jump in and take it over? Can always dream, right? I mean the fiber already exists from LADWP, so it's not like they have to start from scratch.