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Whatever happened to 'lite' tiers?
(old news - 03:53PM Wednesday Dec 08 2004)
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For much of 2003, cable executives waxed poetic over "Lite" broadband tiers; connections from 128kbps to 1Mbps, offered around $25, designed to appeal to stubborn dial-up converts. Most of these tiers never materialized in 2004, primarily because of a fear that existing users, often paying in excess of $40, would downgrade and cost the companies money.

Earlier this year, Time Warner Cable and Roadrunner started testing a "Lite" tier they eventually hoped to market at around $23 a month. That tier offers speeds of 256kbps downstream and 128kbps up, and was tested in Columbus, Cincinnati, and San Antonio. But the company decided not to offer it to customers directly.

Why? It's very quietly being offered as a safety net for disgruntled users who threaten to terminate their service. Unhappy customers are then offered the lower speed and price, if they're willing to stick it out with the company.

Cable providers seem to be stuck in a digital catch-22. If they release lite tiers, they can finally appeal to those stubborn dial-up users who refuse to pay more than $30 for a broadband connection. But they also face the prospect that many existing users, unhappy with paying $40-$50 for a connection they don't fully utilize, would downgrade their connection.

Their answer, it would seem, is to make these tiers so hopelessly anemic that they appeal to the latter, but not the former. One can assume that's the logic behind Roger's release of an "Ultra-lite" tier this year, which features a whopping synchronous 64kbps for $20 a month.

Right now cable providers are doling out yearly price increases, accompanied by downstream speed increases nobody asked for. The latter are used primarily as marketing fodder to keep the bells at bay, appealing primarily to that small percentage of customers they'd secretly love to cap and throttle anyway.

Instead....and I know this is ludicrous fantasy....why not actually lower prices on your standard tiers (to around $30-$35), appealing to both dial-up converts and existing customers alike? Then if need warrants, create a less expensive tier for the fiscally cautious, and a higher tier for pure bandwidth gluttons.

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DaMaGeINC
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How about.

How about make a ULTRA FAST TIER, like 10Mbps/1Mbps(not OOL, but for the rest of the country) And charge us $100. And see how maby people sign up for that. I would be first in line..

They think everyone wants lower prices, not true. Thier is alot of us that would pay for higher speeds. Not everyone is broke.

Frossty
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Re: How about.

like 98% wnat lower prises and higher speeds i mean like who woudn't??

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Re: How about.

I would definitely make use of a 10/1 tier. i'd pay more if they had even faster. i'd get a cogent 100mbps line if I didnt have to pay for the local loop.

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said by DaMaGeINC See Profile:

How about make a ULTRA FAST TIER, like 10Mbps/1Mbps(not OOL, but for the rest of the country) And charge us $100. And see how maby people sign up for that. I would be first in line..

They think everyone wants lower prices, not true. Thier is alot of us that would pay for higher speeds. Not everyone is broke.
ditto
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navalpatel

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unless you are downloading multiple files at once all the time, I do not really see the benefit of having such high speeds... Japan has 100 mb and its useless to them.

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Re: How about.

said by navalpatel See Profile:

Japan has 100 mb and its useless to them.
And you know that it's useless to the for a fact? If it was useless then they wouldn't buy it.
JPCass

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Re: How about.

Plenty of people will pay for things they don't need, like cars that will do 160 mph, or go off road, when they never actually use them for that. The Japanese in particular are noted for being infatuated with spending huge amounts to have the latest gadgetry, regardless of its real productive use. That's marketing.

imrf
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Re: How about.

Yes, I know the Japanese love new technology. But making an assumption that those speeds are useless is asinine. Besides, they pay less for those speeds anyways, so why not have them anyways.

DaMaGeINC
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Re: How about.

Im sure their "internet world" is alot more advanced than ours. They use Video phone's VOD, and alot more stuff that we haven't even begun to conceive. They are 30 years ahead of us. Plain and simple

DaMaGeINC
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Re: How about.

Just an example, go to Dlinks website, and go to one of thier International websites. And check out the products. That stuff blows my mind away. Here, they are just now getting into wi-fi and simple things. They are selling Video phone units and crap.
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said by JPCass See Profile:


Plenty of people will pay for things they don't need, like cars that will do 160 mph, or go off road, when they never actually use them for that. The Japanese in particular are noted for being infatuated with spending huge amounts to have the latest gadgetry, regardless of its real productive use. That's marketing.
In that case it is a perceived need. There are many things that I don't actually need, but need for my sense of happiness. I don't actually need 4mbps/500kbps service (heck, I don't really even need broadband), but I want/need it because I perceive it as such.

Needs and wants are very fluidly interchangeable.
JPCass

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Re: How about.

said by Goober See Profile:

In that case it is a perceived need. There are many things that I don't actually need, but need for my sense of happiness. I don't actually need 4mbps/500kbps service (heck, I don't really even need broadband), but I want/need it because I perceive it as such.

Needs and wants are very fluidly interchangeable.
Very eloquently put - from a marketing rationale.

And do you really want to suggest that your sense of happiness depends on things purchased?

I think that what's lacking in that rationale is a further division between what's wanted and is at least to some extent useful, and that which serves no purpose except to feed some psychological factors, possibly ones that are only even the creations of marketing to begin with. To some extent, things like broadband speed are useful when it's at a level that you can notice, and gain some benefit from. It may save you time, and provide a more satisfactory experience, which have some value. Beyond that, if an excess makes no difference or only a very marginal one, what is the point? Though marketing tells us that bragging rights, the sense of "keeping up with the Joneses", "being on top of the world", etc., are worth paying for, do they really have any value?

I think we can observe where focusing on illusory and marginal qualities, rather than real value, is getting the Japanese economy.

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Re: How about.

I agree to an extent. But I still have to say that anything above the basic requirements for subsisting is really a degree of want. Although, the definition of necessity seems to be a creeping one.

As for the Japanese, I'm not sure what they use their connections for exactly, but if they do a lot of downloading and listening to music or video, maybe it really is a need? I don't know.

Again, on an absolutely base level, anything beyond feeding your family and giving them the basic necessities and maybe schooling is a want.

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said by Goober See Profile:

In that case it is a perceived need. There are many things that I don't actually need, but need for my sense of happiness. I don't actually need 4mbps/500kbps service (heck, I don't really even need broadband), but I want/need it because I perceive it as such.

Needs and wants are very fluidly interchangeable.
I too have a fast cable connection: 4000/521. I like the speed and hate to browse the web on a dialup or the lower tiered speeds offered by say SBC or even Cox HSI's lowest tier.

I mean . . .why get broadband unless you want the speed? I have a need for speed so it is a definite want for me.

I did try the highest tier with 5000/768 but I saw no real difference since I do not game.

jammy
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How about the "Halo Effect":
»www.networkingpipeline.com/showA···55300023

That would solve some issues.

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said by navalpatel See Profile:

unless you are downloading multiple files at once all the time, I do not really see the benefit of having such high speeds... Japan has 100 mb and its useless to them.
I didn't know that you were so familiar with the Japanese and their uses of broadband. Care to enlighten us further as to their broadband needs?

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said by navalpatel See Profile:

Japan has 100 mb and its useless to them.
Why are you so sure? I used it and I can tell you I had an upload unmatchable by ADSL or cable...
Cheddah

join:2001-12-31
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Yes, but you are the minority and not the majority which is why they're scared of lowering prices along with speeds. I would love to pay less for my cable modem service. 95% of my tmie online is browsing and email which does not justify the 3M download I have. I was getting along fine with my 1.5M and wouldn't mind going back to that speed if I could save $20/monthly which equates to $240 eyarly savings. Now comcast is going to increase my download speed to 4M next year? Pretty useless to me since I won't even notice the difference. Just my 2 cents.
batmanst

join:2003-12-23
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Dude you're one in a million that can pay 100 a month for life. Why not 10/2 for 29.95 a month??? or 5/1 for 19.95 a month? Things should get cheaper, faster, not cost more.
Just like with computer. You're crazy if you think paying more is better. do you get paid more at a job then you do paying the not so useful broadband? you're being inconsiderate to others who do not agree with you. Just your one sided opinions I guess.

FYI:The less we pay the better our pocket money is even if they make less profit. What do they need so much money for??? Their rich already, its pointless.

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Re: How about.

said by batmanst See Profile:

FYI:The less we pay the better our pocket money is even if they make less profit. What do they need so much money for??? Their rich already, its pointless.
Dude, you need to go to college and take a basic business course. Start with ECON 101 and learn about what drives this economy. Take that basic course and you will have the answer to your question about why individuals and companies want to make more money.
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Re: How about??? OK..

Don't try to feed us crap with what you read out of a book. Believe whatever you want to believe, but don't think you know it all cause your skull is too thick to even use 1 percent of your brain cell. If what you said is true then wal-mart would be out of business by now or wouldn't sell much or even at all if everything they sold was too expensive! Catering only to the few that have money to blow like you. Intelligent aren't you? Guess what?

Not.


T_Hoffman

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"you're being inconsiderate to others who do not agree with you. Just your one sided opinions I guess."

well i feel that your being inconsiderate to the opionions of the wealthy. cause i'd pay 100 dollars a month all day long for the right service and speeds. lowering prices dont mean jack to me but make me think of the dollar tree tactics. just cause its a dollar dont mean its worth it or your saving money.

for those who cant afford 40$ a month, that sucks. unfortunatly the USA population makes about 20-30grand a yr which doesn't fit a 40-60dollar a month internet bill into there agenda :/

so in some ways i can see where lower prices are good. IMO it dont mean jack SH*! though..

Your Throughput

Download = 17.002 Mbps
Upload = 5.819 Mbps

i could use some more upload speed to maybe a lil more download to
batmanst

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Re: How about.

You guys are the reason why they keep jacking up the price while everyone else will cancel it, find a cheaper alternative or go back to dialup for 8-10 bucks a month.
Give it up already, will ya? The world does not revolve around you. Not everyone is rich. Saving money is a wise thing to do, spending it unnecessarily is dumb.

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Who are the "they" that think everyone wants lower prices? If you're talking about the cablecos, why do they continuously raise rates? "They" think that people want more download. What they DON'T realize is that MOST people want lower prices (and faster upload).

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No, Just not rich enough to pay for that $100.00 per month price tag. Me If they wanted an inexpensive tier, Just make one at like 256k/128k and charge $20.00 per month for It, As that is less than AOL as far as I know. About the only thing I dislike about cable is their Stupid(dare I say Idiotic?) Commercials, But I do have the mute button on the remote aimed and ready.

DaMaGeINC
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Im not saying, they shouldn't make a "lite" tier. Im saying, they should also offer a faster tier, for the "1%" of us that want it and can afford it. They just seem to be lowering speeds and raising prices. I would NEVER pay $20 for 256/128 I would pull my hair out with that. But I guess theirs some (maby alot) who would. Ya know, if they offered an expensive tier, and people paid for it, they could then take the extra profits from that and it would help lower prices on non-expensive tiers.
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They can make all the price adjustments they want...users need upload speed, not more and more download.

I have Optimum Online, and while it is true I do have a 10mb/1mb connection (for $49.95/month since I don't subscribe to a TV package), it is semi-rare that I actually see a full 10mb download. From some sites, an IE download will peak at ~1.2MB/sec or ~1.3MB/sec, but that's from a handful of sites. Uploads do top out at ~120KB/sec, but I'd love to have more.

To me, in this day and age, it's annoying to have to enable bandwith management on a fast cable connection, only because of 2 VoIP lines in the house and 3 heavily used PCs. (Nothing like uploading a 3mb file attachment and using a Vonage line and the same time, until I finally decided to give priority to the voice packets. )

yourwishisoolscomman

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OOL just made a lite tier.. except they forgot to lower the price...$$ no longer are the speeds around 10mbit/1mbit..
more like 6mbit/825kbit..

How many more days til fios? Let me know so I can start counting down...
It will probably be well past winter before a single FIOS line gets turned on in NY metro area... if at all...
I've also seen NO advertising in the NY metro area for FIOS..biggest little secret because we've all been burned before by false results...

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said by DaMaGeINC See Profile:

How about make a ULTRA FAST TIER, like 10Mbps/1Mbps(not OOL, but for the rest of the country) And charge us $100. And see how maby people sign up for that. I would be first in line..

They think everyone wants lower prices, not true. Thier is alot of us that would pay for higher speeds. Not everyone is broke.
You mean the speeds that cable internet originally started off with? Imagine that....

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Hell, I already pay $99 a month for my broadband access, and I still want more speeds, but they don't offer any more at a reasonable rate. I have 5000/768 business (soho) service from cox, and 2 extra static IPs. I've had it for several months now, and I can tell you this, I already want more. I don't know what you people do with your connections, but i have no problem at all maxing out the 5mbit downstream, and the upstream is VERY easy to max.
I'd be happy with like a 10/2 connection, for around $130 a month or so.
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this is why our country is so technically behind

it's these cableco execs who are making things so damn inferior in this country. i mean it's 2004 and we just started rolling out VOD in the past year or so. wtf?! we have the technology but these large companies with old people running them are deciding what we get and how much (more each year too) we'll pay.

ideally we'd still be #1 in the world, but i guess the incentive to compete that way went out with the cold war. we need another soviet union to go head to head with, only this time it's digital. we should all have FTTH, and those who don't should have satellite offered even if the latency is 1000ms.

why was roadrunner so damn fast when i first got it back in 1996, on my old IBM aptiva with an ISA NIC?! and today it's running around the same speed on a good day but the technology even from the cable head end to the modem is so much more advanced? what happened? i'm paying nearly $15 more per month and all they can give me is 3Mbps down and 384Kbps up? or if i want to spend more i can get 6Mbps down and half-a-meg up. i thought when AOL bought TW out that maybe (and this was insanely naive of me) things would improve. why is the largest network only giving me this lousy 'broadband', who cares if i use it or not, i want at least 10/10 so i can use my PC to game or just do basic things without 'advanced' codecs that merely compress the crap out of media in order to squeeze it over a few hundred Kbps.
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Re: this is why our country is so technically behind

What we NEED TO DO is take all the money they are spending on this stupid war, and use it here in our country. With all the money they spent so far, we would already have FTTH and SOO much more.
sherpaboy

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Re: this is why our country is so technically behi

What about all the money they are taking for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, No Child Left Behind, etc, etc, etc...??? I hate the war, but it pales in compis
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Re: this is why our country is so technically behi

said by sherpaboy See Profile:

What about all the money they are taking for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, No Child Left Behind, etc, etc, etc...??? I hate the war, but it pales in compis
Broadband should cost next to nothing! How about 9.99 for 3.0/512 or 6.0/1.0 for 19.99 a month. Its pissing me off cause they keep jacking up the price to enrich themselves and not us.

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Re: this is why our country is so technically behi

Newsflash moron - They aren't in business to "enrich" you. They are in business to make money for them/their share holders. You really should take up that other guy who told you to take an economy 101 class.
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Either...

they cut the prices, add a "lite" tier or don't add a "lite" tier and watch people get fed up and go to other providers...

If I was Brian Roberts, I would offer the "lite" tier, he can't stop people from looking elsewhere for internet service, which is what is happening in this and other areas...

DaMaGeINC
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Re: Either...

Most areas only have at least 2-3 providers. In my city, their is Bellsouth, and Charter. Thats it when it comes to broadband. And since Charter cable is faster than BS dsl, thats who I use. I have no other choice of what I can get unless I want to shell out $500 for something else.
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SRFireside

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Been There. Done That.

When I lived in Austin I used a cable/telco/Internet company called Grande Communications and they offered tiered bandwidth with apparently no problems. For example you could get 256k for $19.95. the company has been steadily growing and is now offering some services here in Houston. Apparently there is a market for lower tiers as well as higher tiers and not much risk to losing money if offering both. The major players are just greedy. Plain and simple.

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Screw "lite"

I'm with those that want a "heavy tier". I'm willing to pay a lot more to get something faster than 5 mbps. Like someone told me, they can get hundreds of mb's through cable modems.

Lets make it happen.

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Derek_Wildstar
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Why?

quote:
Instead....and I know this is ludicrous fantasy....why not actually lower prices on your standard tiers (to around $30-$35), appealing to both dial-up converts and existing customers alike? Then if need warrants, create a less expensive tier for the fiscally cautious, and a higher tier for pure bandwidth gluttons.
Because it would affect short-term profits and send the wrong message to subscribers - the message that prices on cable company services could possibly go down without government intervention.

Yet another example of a company being penny wise and pound foolish.
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T_Hoffman

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Re: Why?

Your Throughput

Download = 17.002 Mbps
Upload = 5.819 Mbps

i could use some more upload speed to maybe a lil more download to
batmanst

join:2003-12-23
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Re: Why?

Day dreaming? Let me know when you wake up. Heeee...

T_Hoffman

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Re: Why?

»support.sbcglobal.net/cgi-bin/sp···obal.net

maybe im still dreaming?

nah no dreaming here
IanR

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Madison, NJ

It would appear that the internet has entered into yet another phase. The beginnings of IPTV and live Video streaming. Yet some providers still drastically limit amounts of data that can be downloaded per month (of course the user cannot monitor his usage) with massive "overage charges". Still other providers over 2.0 or 3.0 download speeds which quite frankly won't make it going fwd. Why won't they make it? Because Video streaming or IPTV require a much faster channel.
This last year I watched the Champcar series live via their web service "RaceDirector". Well I changed modems and lost some speed and found that I needed a min 5.0 download speed to get their Video selection (great service by the way). So going fwd more and more services like this will be created. Will we see our broadband channels fight us as users or will they price reasonably and offer "proper" speeds?

calvoiper

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New Provider; Old Problem

This is just a repeat of the problem that the Bells faced with DSL. DSL was obviously more desirable than dial-up (or that fat, bloated, pathetic example of bellhead extravagance, ISDN), but it seriously risked cannibalizing their T-1 (DS-1) commercial business. (Which they were providing using DSL technology while charging at rates set when it took coax or worse to provide the T-1 signal.)

The Bells came up with a solution--implement a version of DSL that wasn't suitable for most T-1 users--asynchronous traffic flows, with much lower speed in one direction than the other! (Of course, some DSL providers [e.g., Northpoint] wouldn't join that party, so it was necessary to drive them out of business, as well....)

In a way, the Cable folks appear to be doing the same thing--they are only offering the new mid-level service to folks they consider lost as cable modem customers.

Some things almost never change.

calvoiper

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Re: New Provider; Old Problem

I just don't know anymore,
the fact that businesses were being over charged for good broadband just doesn't wash anymore.... like the wholesale club ideas, everyone should be paying about the same price for good broadband of at least 10mbits, probably more.. and so what if they want and can do video, voip, and other cheap stuff over it, that's the whole friggin point stupids... technology is supposed to get cheaper and have alot more customers that pay for service in the process which eventually makes up for the loss of overpriced business class service...
Verizon must be a nervous wreck, speding millions on ftth buildout while worrying that cablecos will cut their throat on price.... (test case: NY metro area)
No real capitalist ever said competition was a bad thing...
But the concept of overcharging for broadband either needs to change for get regulated again...
Telcos and Cablecos either need to find ways to add value to a business package or just provide 'wholesale club' style broadband to everyone, (maybe qos and 24/7 specialized support for business, who knows..)

But 2005 is the time for this to start rolling, we had to wait most of a whole decase for analog modem speeds to get to 56k..... Now we're waiting to deparately to make obsolete 10mbit ethernet cards(due to throughput limitation)
So that makes this probably get hopping around say, 2008-2009,2010?
So hurry up and w a i t ! ! !

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Lite Tier Idea

I'm a TWC customer and for those on Dial up looking for a faster connection, this would be my idea if i had a say in planing TWC RR tiers:

Lite: 5/512 $20/mo
Standard: 8/800 $40/mo
Premium: 10/1 $50/mo
Ultra: 15/5 $60/mo

If these came to be, i'd be the 15/5 plan. As it is, i'm paying 69.95 for RRP at 6/512 (now supposedly 8/512) i'm having problems with it as it is.

Ryven

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Re: Lite Tier Idea

said by Chris 313 See Profile:

I'm a TWC customer and for those on Dial up looking for a faster connection, this would be my idea if i had a say in planing TWC RR tiers:

Lite: 5/512 $20/mo
Standard: 8/800 $40/mo
Premium: 10/1 $50/mo
Ultra: 15/5 $60/mo

If these came to be, i'd be the 15/5 plan. As it is, i'm paying 69.95 for RRP at 6/512 (now supposedly 8/512) i'm having problems with it as it is.
You're way lowballing here. If these prices were a negotiation you'd be asked to leave the room. A more likely scenario is that TWC (or Comcast in my case) would drop the standard pkg down by $10 & work up from there.

4Mb/384Kb = $33 w/cable tv
6Mb/768Kb = $43 w/cable tv
10Mb/1.5Mb = $60 w/cable tv
etc etc

maybe MAYBE offer '512Kb/128Kb = $20 with or w/o cable tv'

btw... bandwidth takes up more space for upstream so the 15Mb/5Mb option is unlikey for cable.... more likely 15/2
RNIXHEX

join:2004-09-13
San Antonio, TX

Re: Lite Tier Idea

HERE IN SAN ANTONIO IM GETTING SPEEDS OF 6119.3KBPS/627.4 K bytes/sec, I NOTICE IN IE the speeds are steady at 512k-600k not so bad, TWC shifted up to 8MB on there premuim service, which ive heard is going to go up to 10MB by this years end. stick to what you got. fine for now:D
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