 glinc join:2009-04-07 New York, NY | meh NY local teams are crap anyways. Only thing that matters are Yankees games in YES Network and Giants games. | |
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 CptGeminiInside your computerPremium join:2004-11-29 Corpus Christi, TX kudos:6 Reviews:
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| Even.. longer for us in south texas. It's been a bit over 5 weeks since NBC and FOX have been blacked out. As a result lots of people are fleeing from time warner and going to other sources. I hear its taking up to 3 weeks for new installs with all the other major carriers in the area like dish/ directv/ and grande.
I have gotten so used to tuning in to NBC on my cable box that when I go to watch it on the rabbit ears and when i finish I go to pick up the cable box remote to change the channel and wonder why the hell isn't the channel changing.
I don't watch sports but our area is huge for cowboys and texas longhorns fans. There is even a cowboys official pro shop in the local mall. | |
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 |  NWOhio join:2011-10-25 Toledo, OH | Re: Isn't MSG owned by the Dolans ?? Yes they'e owned by Dolan's still. But CV and TWC do NOT compete against each other. | |
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 |  mogamer join:2011-04-20 Royal Oak, MI | Could be a form of payback for being forced to offer MSG to other systems by the feds.
But I think it's more in line with "Live sports in HD is the only thing left that pay-tv services have compared to streaming." I think this is why ESPN and other sport networks demand and eventually get big increases from the pay-tv services. They know their product in HD is the only unique thing those services offer. | |
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 |  |  RARPSL join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY | Re: Isn't MSG owned by the Dolans ?? said by mogamer:Could be a form of payback for being forced to offer MSG to other systems by the feds. The Feds forced them to offer the MSG HD feed not the SD feed (which they were already offering and which TWC carried). This is different from the situation with Comcast where they do not offer ANY access to their Sports Teams. CV only held back their HD feed while allowing TWC (and others) to carry their SD MSG feed. IOW: The dispute is about the HD feed not access to MSG itself. IMO since TWC charges their customers extra for HD access (unlike CV where you get a channel and have both SD and HD versions of it) they are trying to get the HD feed for free without splitting the surcharge receipts with CV. I do not know what the offers were but so long as CV split SD fee issue from the HD upgrade fee I would say the Blackout is TWC's fault. IOW: CV might have been willing to avoid the blackout by continuing the status-quo by continuing to supply the SD feed while the question of how much they wanted for the HD feed was on the table. | |
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 | | There is an alternative.... As much as I hated to do it, I called DirecTV yesterday, to hell with TW. I don't really care whose fault it is...all that matters to me is that I'm able to watch the channels. | |
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2 edits | Re: There is an alternative.... To be fair, I actually question whether they are demanding this supposed 53% rate hike that TW is touting. MSG is specifically targeting TW customers with viewing parties and ticket sweepstakes so people don't miss the games. »keepmsg.com
Maybe it is just a marketing tactic by MSG so customers complain to TW to get the channel back, giving MSG the 53% hike they are actually asking for. Maybe they're just being nice. Who knows.
EDIT: After exploring the site some more, they are actually encouraging customers to switch providers instead of challenge TW directly. | |
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| Timw Warner This is bullshit. Where is the governor? Or mayor 1%? The Knicks and Rangers are New York City based teams and Manhattan which is where the Garden is and where they both play is I believe 100% Time Warner as in most of the other 4 boroughs and we are blacked out. We cannot watch our local teams due to their differences. . This is complete crap. | |
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 | | Maybe The Bottom Will Finally Fall Out Rates are a result of inflated salaries being paid to our "sports heros". Answer is to boycott for a year and then let the salaries go to a realistic level. The cost for cable and satellite will come down or at least not increase.
Sports are like drugs, a vice that is enjoyable but not necessary. | |
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 |  NWOhio join:2011-10-25 Toledo, OH | Re: Maybe The Bottom Will Finally Fall Out and with no ESPN you lose a LOT of other channels as well. You do realize how many networks Disney-ABC owns right? | |
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| Re: Maybe The Bottom Will Finally Fall Out said by dvd536:said by NWOhio:other channels would do the same. ABC also owns parts of networks to so you'd lose too. And if Discovery ever did this - half of your cable line up would be gone. Making it *very easy* to cut the cord. here, here. | |
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Sports are like drugs, a vice that is enjoyable but not necessary. Sport hero Jeremy Lin saved this deal. -- Ask me about my sites: bay area jobs Dogs for adoption coupons NBA: »nbaintelligence.com | |
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 CptGeminiInside your computerPremium join:2004-11-29 Corpus Christi, TX kudos:6 Reviews:
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| Maybe... since the new MSG blackout is making some news the five plus long week NBC and FOX blackout for those of us in south texas will make some news and have TWC get off their lazy asses and reply to the final proposal from the local NBC broadcasting company, thats been almost three weeks and no update. | |
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 DaveDudeNo Fear join:1999-09-01 New Jersey kudos:1 | cut the msg Really customers should cheer against channels, call up TW and say you dont want MSG. | |
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 |  Zen6 join:2011-06-04 Saratoga Springs, NY | Re: cut the msg I told them to get rid of msg if they are going to raise my bill for it. Got the Yankees and Giants so who needs msg. | |
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 1 edit | Cowardly and childish! Am I the only one who think these disputes are childish and cowardly? Not to mention inappropriate and unprofessional. If I started a campaign to my customers complaining about one of my vendors Id be one heck of a jerk. Not for trying to stand up for the bottom line and working with that vendor but dragging the consumer into it. Thats how I feel anyways. I have zero respect for any of the decision makers at TW for this kind of crap. But lets face it. Even MSG is to blame. They all are. Theres no difference anymore between the studios, the producers, or the distributors. The whole thing is out of hand and no matter what happens we pay. LMAO Well you all do. Im not paying for this crap.
One thing I know for sure. Its this kind of stuff that makes me want to reconsider my stance on piracy. | |
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 | | twc msg I think the network should have stayed on until they both reached an agreement. But the major factor is MSG pulled video feeds and this is why there is no MSG. Childish on both sides. | |
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