 | | surewest also has caps just do a search here about surewest, and you will see surewest enforces caps | |
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 |  | | Re: surewest also has caps On all but the 50Mbps tier. | |
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 |  |  1 edit | Re: surewest also has caps The 50mbps tier is also close to 200 bucks a month if bundled with TV or phone. >_
I'm sure they would cap it if it were around 60 or so. | |
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 | | MStar Fiber Utopia Whatever! Its always nice for company's to tout Symmetrical internet connections but they should first make the system stable. All the people i know who have any of the Utopia fiber or any other kind of residential fiber has problems all of the time. I work at a colo and all of my clients who tout there "fiber connection" come back to me and say it sucks! Then they go back to the QMOE or bonded T1's in there office. Hopefully someday fiber will be stable enough and the businesses who offer it for cheap will be stable enough with there financial business model. GOOD LUCK FIBER!  | |
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 |  elbm join:2000-08-03 Reisterstown, MD 2 edits | Re: MStar Fiber Utopia Whatever! What do you think transports the T1's? Fiber. The entire "network" (phone, cable, wireless, internet) rides on fiber. Most business of any size are fed directly by fiber-- they may be getting t1's but there is a good chance there is a mux in the telcom room. Most large business have oc3, oc12, oc48 and oc192's directly into thier data centers. The fiber issues you are seeing is best effort services-- there is not a problem with fiber transport to the customer. The problem is there is not enough transport on the back end, the transport is shared among many users like on dsl and cable. Where with t1's the customer is the only on using the 1.544-- they essentially own a dedicated time slot in the transport.
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 |  | | Re: What's the point? If you do not see the point then its probably not a service that you could benefit from. Unfortunately, you do not speak for everyone. I could easily use either--and to their limit. | |
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 | | Ehhh. What's the point of a 50Mb connection when they enforce a 100GB monthly cap?? Seems pointless. Cheap ma & pa ISP. | |
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 |  | | Re: Ehhh. What will possibly do with more than 100Gb of transfer data in a single month aside from downloading more movies? As far as caps go that's a pretty reasonable limit to put on a consumer level service. | |
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 |  |  tobyTroy Mcclure join:2001-11-13 Seattle, WA | Re: Ehhh. If the transfer is both up and down, 100GB is nothing. On my 1.5Mbps connection, I do just over 100GB down a month, BT for TV, not movies. | |
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 | | No Utopia/Mstar inernet issues here. Don't know where the comments about Utopia issues come from but there are far less than I have seen with any DSL service.
As for the comments on "Caps." If they do have them I have not seen any enforcement or warnings but am sure I have gone over 100GB before.
The primary "Internet" related gripe I have with MStar is that they are blocking port 25 INBOUND. I don't really understand there reasoning for that but it only affects a few of us who actually run our own mail servers from home.
I just wish Mstar would have told it's customers about this upgrade! I have not seen an email or anything.
My 15/15Mbps rocks but 50/50Mbps!!! Sweet!
As for there Video Service... They still have kinks to work out as I still get short pauses that are quite annoying while watching TV. If you ask me it looks like packet loss but they don't seem to have anyone to really help in the matter.
Also they decided to time shift Cartoon Network so Adult Swim doesn't start till midnight. The funny part is they time shifted it when AS started coming on at 11PM. Back when it started at 11:30PM and they announced it would be starting at 11:00PM I was excited only to find Mstar push the programing back 30 min! | |
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 |  | | Re: No Utopia/Mstar inernet issues here. said by diehardspeed:The primary "Internet" related gripe I have with MStar is that they are blocking port 25 INBOUND. This is interesting. Granted I am with MStar on iProvo, when I spoke with a representative, he specifically said they do NOT block any ports. I don't run a mail server at home but I should try putting one of my linux box's ssh on 25 to see if I can connect... | |
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 | | Wait a minute Unless I can't do the math (which I probably can't), isn't that like 30 minutes of using your connection a month? | |
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 |  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 1 edit | Re: Wait a minute said by Yauch:Unless I can't do the math (which I probably can't), isn't that like 30 minutes of using your connection a month? 102400 MB * 8 = 819,200Mb 819,200Mb / 60 = 13,653 seconds 13,653 seconds / 60 = 227 mins or so at max speed 227 mins / 60 = 3.8 hours
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 |  |  macrospectAll The Little StuffPremium join:2005-08-25 Doylestown, PA | Re: Wait a minute Ok, that is the most ridiculous thing I have EVER heard. If the caps are indeed 100GB/mo on the 50mbit deal then you would have to be outright out of your mind to purchase this connection! | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: Wait a minute For $40/m you'd have to be out of your mind to sign up for a 50/50 connect with 'soft' limits?
Until they start pulling a Comcast and blindsiding folks with magical limits I'd sign up for 50/50 in a heart beat.
Sounds like they're going about things the right way. A shame really, I thought I was going to catch up to the in-laws 15/15 with my 20/20 fios upgrade...Guess not. :/ | |
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 |  |  |  |  EebobbPremium join:2003-11-13 Floral Park, NY | Re: Wait a minute I'm paying $65 a month for Fios 20/20 so IF if I got 50/50 for less I would take it because I don't use 100 gigs a month most of the time. | |
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 |  |  bruzrPremium join:2007-05-05 Essex Junction, VT | Actually, 13,653 / 60 = 227 minutes, or 3 hrs 47 m. Still, not a lot for a full month. | |
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 |  |  |  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | Re: Wait a minute said by bruzr:Actually, 13,653 / 60 = 227 minutes, or 3 hrs 47 m. Still, not a lot for a full month. Ha, good catch. How in the hell did I screw that up? I even used a calculator ... -- Pretty Fly for a White Guy | |
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 |  |  | | said by Matt:said by Yauch:Unless I can't do the math (which I probably can't), isn't that like 30 minutes of using your connection a month? 102400 MB * 8 = 819,200Mb 819,200Mb / 60 = 13,653 seconds 13,653 seconds / 60 = 227 mins or so at max speed 227 mins / 60 = 3.8 hours Actually your answer is still wrong. Nobody noticed your second line which doesn't make any sense at all. 819,200Mb / 60 = 13,653 seconds
Now Mb divided by a unit less number would still be Mb. I don't know how it was magically converted to seconds. Maybe you can explain that. However, if you want to correctly calculate how long one would be able to use a 50Mbps connection you would divide 819,200Mb by 50Mb/s. Megabits would cancel and your answer would be in seconds.
100GB * 1024MB/GB = 102,400MB 102,400MB * 8bits/byte = 819,200Mbits 819,200Mbits / 50Mbits/s = 16,384 seconds 16,384s / (60seconds/minute) = 273.067 minutes 273.067min / (60minutes/hour) = 4.551 hours
It's funny how everyone was laughing at the Verizon rep who didn't know the difference between .01 cents and $.01, but yet we have people here making mistakes with units too. | |
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 |  |  |  dvWhat was that?Premium join:2005-04-19 Goleta, CA | Re: Wait a minute you are correct... i kept getting a different answer, couldn't figure out what i was adding | |
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 |  |  |  1 edit | KRALJ, IM INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THIS CONNECTION , YOU SEEM TO BE THE ONLY PERSON HERE TO BE ABLE TO EQUATE THE PROBLEM, NOW IF U COULD SEND ME AN EMAIL EXPLAINING THIS > I RUN A 17MG WITH COMCAST NOW I PAY ABOUT $30 A MONTH I TRUE LY WANT 50MB'S , I SUPPOSE MY QUESTIONS ARE,DOES THAT MEAN I ONLY GET 4.551 HOURS OF NET USAGE ? IS THIS WORTH THE MONEY? HOW MUCH WILL THIS IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF MY NET? CAN I GET IT IN CHICAGO? I WILL TELL U NOW I VERY RARELY DO ANYTHING BUT PLAY GAMES (WINK) DL SOME PORN EVERY NOW AND THEN DL SOME TUNES FROM SOUL SEEK> BUT OF COURSE I WANT AS MUCH SPEED AS POSSIBLE ,
IF ANYONE AT ALL HAS ANSWERS TO MY ?'S PLS FEEL FREE TO E MAIL ME AT xlx_jesus.saves_xlx[at]yahoo.com , ty for your time in advance to any whom reply | |
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 1 edit | huh? yeah good choice ... give 50MBPS fiber to ...the mormons... omg obviously good choice... they'll never use it!!! | |
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 |  MarkyDPremium join:2002-08-20 Oklahoma City, OK | Re: huh? said by 66466388:yeah good choice ... give 50MBPS fiber to ...the mormons... omg obviously good choice... they'll never use it!!! ignorance runs aloof! not all the residents of Utah are Mormons...and what makes you think that Mormons can't be internet power users? lol...what an ignorant moron | |
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 |  |  | | Re: huh? said by MarkyD:said by 66466388:yeah good choice ... give 50MBPS fiber to ...the mormons... omg obviously good choice... they'll never use it!!! ignorance runs aloof! not all the residents of Utah are Mormons...and what makes you think that Mormons can't be internet power users? lol...what an ignorant moron You be surprised how many mormons are power users...
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! what a stupid! cant even spell the english right! haha
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 |  |  elios join:2005-11-15 Springfield, MO | said by MarkyD:said by 66466388:yeah good choice ... give 50MBPS fiber to ...the mormons... omg obviously good choice... they'll never use it!!! ignorance runs aloof! not all the residents of Utah are Mormons...and what makes you think that Mormons can't be internet power users? lol...what an ignorant moron Hmm its BECAUSE of there community that they have this if only the rest of the US would wake up and do some thing like this | |
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 | | Run By Municipal.. JackASSES! I live in Los Angeles where the department of sanitation complains about quality of garbage. I really can't see government employed idiots running a broadband network. It's best run by corporations.
Btw,Every week the garbage collector picked my garbage trying to bust me for illegal waste so I gathered all the turds I could find and put them in the can!  | |
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JackASSES! I live in Los Angeles where the department of sanitation complains about quality of garbage. I really can't see government employed idiots running a broadband network. It's best run by corporations. Actually it's owned by the municipalities not ran by them. A private company designs, implements and manages it and the multiple private contractors involved (www.packetfront.com). This misconception and uneducated remarks like this are why the open network model is having such a hard time remedying the broadband divide we have in the US. Once people look into it and educate themselves and others it is an obvious choice for the broken/outdated telecommunications oligopoly systems we have today. I am so sick and tired of these bigwigs (Comcast, Quest etc.) making promises to the govt about how they are going to give 'broadband' connections to the masses and then not delivering but just driving our prices up for such small bandwidth. Do you consider 200Kbs broadband? I don't! | |
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 dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | Caps FTL - its fibre for crying out loud. | |
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 | | No one needs that speed in Utah... Porn is illegal in Utah I believe. Makes sense why the cheapo ISPs would offer their highest speeds there... | |
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 plkLil' Duffer Burger BarnPremium join:2002-04-20 Ogden, IA | Hell....2 connections For that price I would get two connections....and get 200 gig a month. | |
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100GB*1024MB/GB =102,400MB 102,400MB * 1024KB/MB = 104857600KB 104857600KB * 1024B/KB =107374182400B 107374182400B * 8bits/Byte= 858993459200bits 858993459200bits * 1kb/1000b = 858993459.2kb 858993459.2kb * 1mb/1000kb = 858993.4592mb 858993.4592mb / 50mbits/s = 17179.869184s 17179.869184s / 60 = 286.331153067 minutes 4.772185885 hours
but this math is MUCH more definitive:
500GB*1024MB/GB =512,000MB 512,000MB * 1024KB/MB = 524288000KB 524288000KB * 1024B/KB = 536870912000B 536870912000B * 8bits/Byte= 4294967296000bits 4294967296000bits * 1kb/1000b = 4294967296kb 4294967296kb * 1mb/1000kb = 4294967.296mb 4294967.296mb / 50mbits/s = 85899.34592s 85899.34592s / 60 = 1431.6557654 minutes 23.86 hours
Because the quota is actually 500GB (though additonal can be purchased) at XMission, which is now providing 50mb service. | |
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 Syian join:2007-12-20 Gwinn, MI | me. want. i belive the subject says it all, as i live in a land where there is ONLY one "broadband" provider. and it is charter. and it's down more often than it's up. and i get to deal wiht "habeeb" EVERY TIME I CALL CUSTOMER SUPPORT. and every time they do the same thing. and every time it doesn't work.
hell. i'll take some extra wives and move to utah for 50/50Mbs. sounds like a win/win/win/win/lose/win situation to me. -- -- i used to belive in people. then i worked in telcom. it burned out my naivety | |
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