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Protocol flaw sends nations scurrying
(old news - 03:03PM Tuesday Apr 20 2004)
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Late last year, a man in Milwaukee discovered a flaw in the TCP/IP protocol that has quietly sent governments and security researchers scurrying the world over. Paul "Tony" Watson identified a method to reliably trick hardware (both PC's and routers) into terminating communications by resetting the machines remotely.

The flaw, disclosed only today by the British government, has the majority of security experts more than worried. Discussion of the announcement has reached a fevered pitch on security related mailing lists, newsgroups, and message boards.

Obviously a flaw in the core technology the Internet is founded on has sent intelligence agencies and governments running in all directions. Amit Yoran, the U.S. government's cybersecurity chief, calmly informs the Associated Press the flaw "would raise significant concern and require significant attention by the folks who run the major infrastructures of the Internet."

Apparently government agencies and several companies running important data pipelines have been quietly fortifying their systems over the past few weeks in preparation of the announcement. Watson is expected to give a more complete explanation of his analysis this coming Thursday in Vancouver.

The advisory from the NISCC is available here, and notes the Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) is potentially most affected by this vulnerability. According to the SANS Internet Storm Center, a temporary workaround to the TCP vulnerability is to enable MD5 checksums on BGP sessions so that BGP peers can authenticate each other's packets and ignore spoofed TCP resets.

The center "encourages all BGP enabled Juniper or Cisco router administrators to turn on MD5 checksums as soon as possible while testing the patch supplied by router vendors."

Additional discussion of the technical specifics of the vulnerability can be found in our Security forum.

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TrainBuff
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Internet Shutdown

A hacker who found the flaw could effectively shutdown or cause severe interruptions to the Internet. Scary!
B777300

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Re: Internet Shutdown

Indeed...
laz45

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Re: Internet Shutdown

How can this be done, i wanna do it

lua6
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Re: Internet Shutdown

You download Hacker.exe and your on your merry way... Spare me please

ThunderCorp

join:2002-03-11
Chula Vista, CA

Re: Internet Shutdown

So the obvious question is,

What is affected? Routers only? MS Windows? UNIX variants? Everything except Macs?

tiger72
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Re: Internet Shutdown

lets read this one more time:

"Late last year, a man in Milwaukee discovered a flaw in the TCP/IP protocol"

this is not OS specific.
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chickatwork

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EVERYTHING USES TCP/IP if you're on the NET. Small LANs may not, may use appletalk or netbeui..anything longdist would be TCP/IP

PunkGod

join:2003-02-02
LMFAO!!!

I'm in a chat room right now that this forum I get on uses and they haven't heard of this problem till I told them about it and they don't believe its a problem at all lol.

dddane

join:2002-01-10
Chicago, IL
everything except macs. l o l... thats a nice fantasy for apple
Daemon
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MightWolf

join:2002-06-17
Windsor, ON
Actually, reading the details, it will be practically impossible to "shutdown the internet" - the attacker would need to know both end-points of all TCP connections.....
LoungeLizard2

join:2003-11-21
Vallejo, CA

Re: Internet Shutdown

Wouldn't they only need to shut down the few main DNS servers of the internet. Unless you know the actual IP address of all the web pages you visit, you would be out of luck.

SpitefulCrow
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Eh, not really, just enough to reset the long-running BGP sessions on most of the major backbones.
LoungeLizard2

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Vallejo, CA

Re: Internet Shutdown

Thanks

purplejello

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Well, they'd know one end (their own), and they'd know the other end (the major DNS servers).

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said by laz45 See Profile:
How can this be done, i wanna do it

You have to hold the 'g' key down on your keyboard while booting up. Once you get to the login screen, release the 'g' key, login, and hold the down the 'g' key again until the icons appear on the left side of your screen.

This will effectively shut your portion of the internet down (maybe your whole city block). But you have to have a broadband connection and not dialup because you won't be connected to the internet at first.

GercekSeytan
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Re: Internet Shutdown

said by tomkb See Profile:
said by laz45 See Profile:
How can this be done, i wanna do it

You have to hold the 'g' key down on your keyboard while booting up. Once you get to the login screen, release the 'g' key, login, and hold the down the 'g' key again until the icons appear on the left side of your screen.

This will effectively shut your portion of the internet down (maybe your whole city block). But you have to have a broadband connection and not dialup because you won't be connected to the internet at first.

Not working for me...need more detailed instructions.
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wolfox
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said by laz45 See Profile:
How can this be done, i wanna do it

Does your mommy know that you are playing with her cable provisioned PC?
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PloKoon
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said by laz45 See Profile:
How can this be done, i wanna do it

Pssst... go here: »www.turnofftheinternet.com/. Don't tell anyone!!
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maxpower111111

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This is how.
tdkyo

join:2002-12-07
Rochester, NY
Lets see if your router manufacturers can come up with a patch soon....

bky
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Re: Internet Shutdown

I think the article is referring to bigger routers like cisco

MightWolf

join:2002-06-17
Windsor, ON

Re: Internet Shutdown

Well it's not like a hacker will spend hours tracking a home user's TCP inbound and outbound connections just so he can shut them down.

HardwareLust
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Re: Internet Shutdown

said by MightWolf See Profile:
Well it's not like a hacker will spend hours tracking a home user's TCP inbound and outbound connections just so he can shut them down.

Depends on how bad you wanna mess with the guy at the other end. There's several people I would love to do this to, but I'm way too lazy.
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garagerock
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Come on.

Unless parties out there are privy to the locations of all of the root servers, I don't see this as a reality.

Is it scary that someone found a way to exploit TCP? Of course it is. But it looks like the gov't geeks are working on it...LOL, we should have a fix for it in about 5 years

dpocoroba
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Crazy news indeed. BGP resets are far from fast... it takes a few mins or so for less then 100 or so routes. Not to mention core backbone routers hold some 150,000 + internet routes. Major re-convergence time if that was to start happing. Another good reason to use MD5 on all protocols that support it.
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clarkism

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Re: Internet Shutdown

That would have to be a highly coordinated attack to reset several bgp sessions.

Is MD5 in clear text?

pcscdma
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Re: Internet Shutdown

said by clarkism See Profile:
Is MD5 in clear text?

I sure hope not!
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dpocoroba
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Re: Internet Shutdown

said by pcscdma See Profile:
said by clarkism See Profile:
Is MD5 in clear text?

I sure hope not!

No MD5 isnt anything like PAP, it uses hashes. when you configure it on the cisco router
" nei x.x.x. pass zzzz"

It will show up as encrypted in a "sh run". As someone posted earlier " nei x.x.x.x pass 0 zzzz " if you where to "sh run" with that command it will show the key in clear text since that command says not to encrypted the key.
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koitsu
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Shutting down the Internet would quite possibly be one of the most positive things ever to happen.

Good thing dreams are free, eh?
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hack3d

@cox.net

the mother of all exploits

the title says it all. it doesnt look like a simple ms patch can fix this

gruggni
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Corpus Christi, TX

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Take down the internet

I'm tired of spam and viruses, just kill it already.

Stop those bastards from making money.
People will have to go outside or watch tv.

Use the phone, HAHA voip, suckers.

How much do you depend on tcp/ip?

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fatmanskinny
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Wandering

Ouch!

Maybe I will get some work out of this. Last time, I got a 2 month computer support contract because of SoBig. No telling how long my contract will be if the WHOLE INTERNET can be shut down and needs patching.

insomniac
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Re: Ouch!

Good point. I have a part-time job because of Klez.

brandon
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Dang.

The internet's broken.

Anon-E-Mus

@rockwellautomation.c

Way to go, Tony!!!

Tony had discovered this vulnerability about a year ago. Luckily it was first discovered by an intelligent and ethical IT security guy and not some unscrupulous hacker. He has quietly worked with vendors during that time helping them come up with a solution.

jap
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Re: Way to go, Tony!!!

Agreed.

technick
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Re: Way to go, Tony!!!

I hope Tony makes alot of money off of this. That would be the only way I would be this ethical in a world full of capitalism. Give me money and I won't make your life a living hell.

jap
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Re: Way to go, Tony!!!

WHOA .... technick, you be more jaded & cynical than I. You people who are more like me than I am scare the livin' daylights oughta me.

technick
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Re: Way to go, Tony!!!

Well think about it, we live in a very capitalistic society, and if you save goverments, and private industry millions & millions of dollars, should you get a little kick back as well? It makes perfect scense. Nothing in the world is free like it should be. If you can't change the game, beat them at their own game.
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AthlGrond
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Well There Goes Comcast

The center "encourages all BGP enabled Juniper or Cisco router administrators to turn on MD5 checksums as soon as possible while testing the patch supplied by router vendors."

How fast do you think Comcast will do this?
BosstonesOwn

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Re: Well There Goes Comcast

you want a time table with or without a rate hike ?
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onionsoup

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Salem, CT

Not until it shuts down their entire system and customers begin to complain. Then maybe just maybe they will begin to do something about it, but even then they will give their employees equipment they have not been trained on, and only do a General Custard patch job.

No love here for them sorry.

Yoda2009

join:2003-10-07
Toronto, ON

No threat?

Something tells me hackers wouldn't want to take down the internet, as that's what they use. Then again if they're stupid enough...

hack3d

@cox.net

Re: No threat?

and by the sounds of it, it only takes one stupid hacker

jap
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I'm not so sure. The primary goal has got to be a sense of power (& a distant second = gaining underground cred). And they know the operational injuries they may inflict will not be lasting but merely send dozens of expensive techs & managers scurrying - a very tempting thing for the enfranchised, low esteem geeks of the world: a real sense of worth, don't ya know, if your labor can affect so much response. It's why I loiter in car traffic: to display my influence on large numbers of harried drivers and passengers where I otherwise have no influence.
clarkism

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San Francisco, CA
Its not like one can take down the internet.
If someone where to take down an interface or a paticular BGP session, BGP would reroute that traffic.
tonekilla
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trust me. they would revel in taking down the whole internet.

footballdude
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said by Yoda2009 See Profile:
Something tells me hackers wouldn't want to take down the internet, as that's what they use.
What about terrorists? Their goal is to cause trouble. How much of the upcoming Presidential election will be conducted online?

sporkme
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Router people, how to fix

Just got off the phone with one of our upstreams, and it was quite easy to setup. In your bgp config:


neighbor x.x.x.x password 0 somethingsecret


On hitting enter, the bgp session will reset and your router is safe from the attack.

This site has some good general suggestions for using bgp securely:

»www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-b···ate.html

FWIW, the guy I spoke with who was setting up the other end said that this is all they've been doing for the past few days.
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Re: Router people, how to fix

said by sporkme See Profile:
Just got off the phone with one of our upstreams, and it was quite easy to setup.
Yes, but how long did it take to get to the right guy?

sporkme
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Re: Router people, how to fix

said by TivoNut See Profile:
said by sporkme See Profile:
Just got off the phone with one of our upstreams, and it was quite easy to setup.
Yes, but how long did it take to get to the right guy?

I sent email to noc@ one upstream and got a call back in less than five minutes. I sent email to another (via a reseller) and got a call back in about a half-hour. I didn't have to talk to any 1st-level people. The one that responded a bit later even had a ready-made GUI tool; he hit a button and it generated a random password which he read to me. He hit another button labelled "deploy" and in about 15 seconds my session went up/down. I was quite pleased.
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teflon77

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new protocols now

can you guys see its a conspiracy....
all so we can have a mass exodus to BIC-TCP when the time is right. think about it...

kba4

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Canton, OH

anyone else see a possible flip side

doesn't the US 'department of homeland security' want to 'rewire' the net? wouldn't this be the perfect cover to now make this necessary?
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sunpost

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My theory...

Al Gore put this back door in his internet to sabotage the Republicans :P~~~

raw
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Re: My theory...

For that to have happened, Al Gore would have first had to have invented the Internet.

Wait...


pcscdma
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Al Gore didn't invent TCP/IP

raw
War Eagle
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Re: My theory...

Way to spoil the joke.
BosstonesOwn

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Look it up on al gores internet. he indeed did create tcp/ip and udp i hear rumours of his hand in bic/tcp also.

What a genius he is. i wish i had invented this internet thingy.
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wolfox
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Internet was not made...

[insightful]... to be proof against unscrupulous individuals. It was founded in the spirit of communication, interoperability of all types of computer systems. In effect, an electronic, ethereal utopia. TCP/IP and it's various other protocols that use it as a transport were not meant to be "hardened" or secured.

But it is human nature to poke, prod, exploit and conquer everything in it's path. Greed, superiority, a rotten sex life - all good motivators to push the Internet and TCP/IP to the brink of extinction.

The protocol is not what's flawed here. People are. [/insightful]
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TheGiant
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Re: Internet was not made...

How long has the internet as we know it been around 10 years, 15, 20? IPv4 is all we are up to even AOL is up to ver 9.x Time to upgrade. Didn't I see a news article on something a zillion times faster last week let's go with that.

Everything man makes is flawed.
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Morac

join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
·Comcast

Not that big a deal

According to this description it looks very simple to to do, but I doubt the home user has much to worry about since all it does is reset the connection. Most TCP connections don't last that long and since it requires knowing the sequence number and receive window size ahead of time it doesn't seem like something a script kiddie could take advantage of. Since it requires a "hands on" touch I doubt anyone will waste their time going after specific home users.

This will mainly affect machines/routers that constantly keep open a large number of TCP connections like those that use BGP. Implementing the ACK number checks and MD5 encryption will make this a lot harder to exploit, which I'm sure is what the higher risk targets have been doing.

In fact according to this guy over on Slashdot that's what they have been doing.
This guy also has some interesting insight into the problem.

A simple work-around to lower your chance of getting hit by this is to change your receive window size, which I'm sure everyone here has already done.
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systems2000
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Re: Not that big a deal

said by Morac See Profile:
...and since it requires knowing the ... receive window size ... it doesn't seem like something a script kiddie could take advantage of.
I think you could find that information by going here »www.web100.org

said by Morac See Profile:
A simple work-around to lower your chance of getting hit by this is to change your receive window size, which I'm sure everyone here has already done.
If evryone uses different RWIN's throughout the Internet, I would think that would defeat the ability to tune transfer rates for performance.

said by Morac See Profile:
"snmp: the standard e-mail protocol on the Internet" - LinkSys user manual (page 17)
FUNNY!! Another reason why I don't use or recommend Linksys products.
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Morac

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Re: Not that big a deal

said by systems2000 See Profile:
said by Morac See Profile:
...and since it requires knowing the ... receive window size ... it doesn't seem like something a script kiddie could take advantage of.
I think you could find that information by going here »www.web100.org

There is no way to remotely know the receive window size of a machine on the internet without establishing a TCP connecting to that machine. The site you mentioned runs a java program on the machine itself which means the machine has to run the program.

said by systems2000 See Profile:
If evryone uses different RWIN's throughout the Internet, I would think that would defeat the ability to tune transfer rates for performance.

The receive window only affects the size of the receive buffer on your machine so it only affects the transfer rate performance on your machine. It should differ depending on your average ping times and transfer speeds so it can be different for different people. Actually if everyone used the same RWIN then many people would have non-optimized connections. See the RWIN FAQ on this site for more info.
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jesseeu

join:2003-07-09
Key West, FL

Great...

I just get my 3mbps upgrade and now they decide to take down the internet.
bv21

join:2001-02-08
Key West, FL

Re: Great...

Where are you located in Key West?
jesseeu

join:2003-07-09
Key West, FL

Re: Great...

New Town

skoivisto
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Mchenry, IL

Whoa

That could be pretty scary in the event that someone gets a hold of that flaw.

pcscdma
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Witty remarks

Keep those witty remarks going! I have used the thumbs up button way too much on this! I like the thumbs up button! Pretty soon the Internet will be down and I will be unable to give anybody thumbs up anymore

Enjoy the last days of the Internet.:)

Peace out
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Monster Rain
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USA

Turn on MD5

That's the fix
xrobertcmx
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Does anyone know the jump off

Point for all the VOIP connections to Indian Tech/Customer Support?
I would like it to go away.
Formeister

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Somers, CT
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What if..???

Since none of my compuers are bound to the tcp/ip protocol, does this mean I could take over the Intenet when the shi*t hits the fan? Newbies want to know....

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