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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
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Death Valley, CA | Re: Stupid Lawsuit Just more anti-Comcast news from BBR. | |
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join:2004-06-21
Beverly Hills, CA
| Re: Stupid Lawsuit said by telcolackey  :Just more anti-Comcast news from BBR. Karl doesn't care for Comcast or its subsidiaries.
Shame on him! | |
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00000 | Re: Stupid Lawsuit He doesn't like any ISP. Stories are always about the uber-super fast speeds in a lab or how some one at ISP x screwed something up. | |
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FiL
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Silver Spring, MD | Re: Stupid Lawsuit So this ISN'T Broadband news???
And here I am thinking Comcast services the nation with intertubes..... | |
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| Re: Stupid Lawsuit said by FiL :So this ISN'T Broadband news???..... why yes, it is broadband news - talk about shooting the messenger! | |
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Hollis, NH | Re: Stupid Lawsuit Perhaps... but not sure how "fair and balanced" the news posting is on this site. | |
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R4M0N
Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
join:2000-10-04
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| Re: Stupid Lawsuit said by Mike :In that case submit a news story of your own if you do not like what our editors pick. If it only were that easy. I've submitted many articles about FIOS deployment and never had any of them published. | |
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
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Death Valley, CA
| said by Mike :In that case submit a news story of your own if you do not like what our editors pick. I've tried that too. It was comparing all the negativity toward Comcast, while companies like Google go unscrutinized... This was also not deemed newsworthy.
I know Google is the ad source for BBR, so perhaps that wouldn't fly very well.
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MysticGogeta
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| Re: Stupid Lawsuit said by Ahrenl :Please let me know if you find a "fair and balanced" news source, ANYWHERE.. Not from Fox.
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| Re: Stupid Lawsuit said by MysticGogeta :said by Ahrenl :Please let me know if you find a "fair and balanced" news source, ANYWHERE.. Not from Fox. Or CNN, or CBS, or NBC, or ABC, or (insert news org here)
I find it hilarious that while one rube calls Fox out on not delivering the whole story that the same person will say the other networks do provide the whole story...which is ummmmm....a lie.
journalistic integrity is DEAD in this country.
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| Re: Stupid Lawsuit I understand your point, and you are correct, but Fox is just the most egregious example of corporate bias and propaganda in the news media, the poster child as it were. They should be required to take the word "News" out of their name, it's clearly false advertising. Or at least change the name to Fox News and Opinion Channel. | |
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Richland, WA | Re: Stupid Lawsuit yeah, this isn't wikipedia where we pretend to have NPOV [citation needed] | |
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
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| said by exocet_cm :said by telcolackey :Just more anti-Comcast news from BBR. Just more anti-Comcast Broadband related news from BBR news.com relayed via BBR. Corrected your comment for ya telcolackey . You would make a good BBR moderator. Need to ensure the anti-corp message stays strong! I think there is something in the BBR TOS which says this and anyone disagreeing with this position will be banned. Or was that AT&T 
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Jason Levine
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| How is this anti-Comcast news? Sure, the lawsuit is against Comcast, but the opinion of the plaintiff is obviously negative:
Nobody in their right mind could interpret that as meaning that your connection would never go down, right? Wrong. If Karl were posting this supporting the guy, he would have said something like "Everyone just assumes that 'always on' means that your connection will never go down, but apparently Comcast doesn't agree." | |
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Lumberjack
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Newport News, VA
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| Most BBR news shows more negative news than positive news (at least against the "evil corporate" machine). But tell me what valid news agency posts more positive news than negative?
I think the article is funny... will cost Comcast loads of lawyer fees and maybe some fine-print adjustment.
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rawgerz
In Debt we trust
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Grove City, PA
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| Didn't you think for a second that maybe he was suing because he felt he found a technicality for making money?
How many lawsuits these days are for justice or principle instead of financial gain?
The guy DID lose his internet for two weeks, I would be pissed too. Nothing takes that long to fix.
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Jim Gurd
Sorry Roger, you tiger now.
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Plymouth, MI | This is why companies are forcing customers into arbitration agreements.
I hope Comcast prevails on this. It's a frivolous lawsuit. | |
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| Re: Stupid Lawsuit said by Jim Gurd :This is why companies are forcing customers into arbitration agreements. exactly, because they now that they can not provide the service they advertise and do not want to go to court and lose. | |
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MisterMarcus
join:2001-11-10
San Diego, CA | One good thing about California - we don't go for that crap. If we want to, and have the money to, initiate a class action against a company for violating law, we can do it, regardless of any terms of "mandatory arbitration". | |
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My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20 | Re: Stupid Lawsuit Riiiiiiiiiight...  | |
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join:2002-12-04
USA | Re: Stupid Lawsuit Fiberguy,
The attorney I live with who happens to be licensed in California, Wisconsin, and D.C. says it's possible. I think I'll listen to an attorney over you. Okay? | |
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My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| Re: Stupid Lawsuit Wow... the 20 attorneys I work with say yours is wrong.. so I'll take their word over yours.
Doesn't matter, anyway, in the end what any attorney says.. it's what the judge says.. so, to be honest, (and we all know how far "my friend who is an attorney says" goes around here) it don't matter. Okay? | |
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join:2001-11-10
San Diego, CA
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| Re: Stupid Lawsuit Black letter law.
California recognizes the consumer's right to class action - Ting vs. AT&T, if you want a small reference.
As a result a number of companies changed their terms where they once prohibited class actions as they pleased - but now they are adding terms excluding California residents. It's also why a lot of companies refuse to do business with you if you're a California resident - they know you've got the power to shut them down if they screw up. Vis a vis - Purpose Discover Card. | |
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Sean
The Great Divide
join:2004-01-23
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| said by pnh102 :Didn't this guy read the part of his contract that said that service is not guaranteed? I think this is also mentioned in all of Comcast's ads. Let me ask you: did YOU read YOUR contract? | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
| Re: Stupid Lawsuit said by Sean :Let me ask you: did YOU read YOUR contract? Yes.
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| do you read your contract? At the end of it you will see a statement that the contract does not take away certain rights, and it depends on the laws in that state.
I believe in the state of Texas (not 100% on this), a company cannot take away your right to sue.
from some of the other comments i assume Cali is the same way. Any way is this? Who does the arbitration company get their money from? And who would the cable company go to if they see a favorable number decisions going their way?
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| It is always on Just doesn't always work.
If you're going to sue, do it over the "Crazy fast" claims which aren't true thanks to their oppressive network management tactics.
This case will come down to would a 'reasonable' person assume that always on means an 100% uptime SLA. I would say certainly not.
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| honestly honestly the news here is no more then telco astroturfing. right up their with the national enquirer. good job Karl. is this site funded by the telcos ????? | |
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Shill H8r
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| Re: honestly I guess you missed all the FiOS installers break this and that articles Karl used to run and still would should the cable fanbois submit them.
Meanwhile the site has more than its share of cable trolls to balance out anything Karl may do. | |
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Margate City, NJ
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| said by imusuallyon :
honestly the news here is no more then telco astroturfing. right up their with the national enquirer. good job Karl. is this site funded by the telcos ?????
I disagree with that characterization. The editor dumps on all corporations - not just cable. | |
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Kihei, HI | This story is legit... Karl's editorializing, while extremely minimal, is even supportive of your viewpoint... so what's your problem??
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
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| said by imusuallyon :
honestly the news here is no more then telco astroturfing. right up their with the national enquirer. good job Karl. is this site funded by the telcos ?????
I notice that he is inconsistent in his editorial, one day will be pro consumer, then turn around the same day and tout the corporations line.
Im still not forgetting how the Corps made this site get rid of my favorite Thumbs UP or Thumbs DOWN characterizing the ratings.
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join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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honestly the news here is no more then telco astroturfing. right up their with the national enquirer. good job Karl. is this site funded by the telcos ?????
hmmmm. the name of the site used to be "dslreports"; I wonder who provides dsl? what companies would likely be featured in news about dsl?
wait a minute, I know - telcos!
see, wasn't that easy?
and here's a twofer: the site is now named "broadbandreports"; guess who provides broadband - that's right, cable companies and telcos and BPL (not really, but we pretend) and satellite (another pretend). That must be why we see stories about these providers on the site.
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CylonRed
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Bloom County
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| Re: BS.. said by Tzale :This is so stupid.... Think about it, it's ALWAYS ON when the service is UP! DUH!!!! It's not ALWAYS ON if the service goes down, and since Comcast doesn't go out of their way to turn off the service when nothing is wrong, this lawsuit is frivolous. -Tzale Got that right... It better be thrown out or some one will have some 'splain'n to do. | |
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join:2004-11-26
America
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| funny I find this almost comical  Guess that's why it's filed under "oddities" under the headline
In a way, I almost hope he wins. If/when this gets to a jury though, I'm pretty sure most people will laugh it off and it'll get thrown out. Most regular folks understand that unless you have a business class connection, you have no guarantees that the 'net will always be perfect, let alone working. Granted, two weeks with no service stinks, but I actually agree w/HTC/TCH that he probably could've got a month or two of free service out of 'em if he worked with them nicely.
You hear it all the time... "I run my business from this - (insert: consumer grade pc, residential connection, or other absurd claim) and it better work!" - well here's some advice: 1st thing's first - BACKUP your data! Get a nice computer that isn't your run of the mill eMachine or whatever. Get another method to connect to the 'net, whether that's dialup, a cellular card, a DSL line, or, if you can really afford it, a "business class" connection from your cable/telco provider. Heck, get a laptop and go to a friend's house, go to a coffee shop, somewhere you can work for awhile in relative peace. Even if this guy's gripe isn't work related, I just roll my eyes every time I hear about people saying things like that... "well, why shouldn't my cheapo whatever be able to handle it?"
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DHRacer
Fire Survivor
join:2000-10-10
Lake Arrowhead, CA
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| Next up, other utilities I'm sure Edison and the Gas Companies weren't sued out of existence in their early years for making claims that it was "always on", despite the slow emergence of those utilities into homes and business that were previously oil-lamps and fireplaces.
Next people will sue for winter outages that seem to frequent the northeast. Or do they already do that?
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jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
| It Works Both Ways If Comcast can be persnickety in their legal jargon with regards to network "management", why can't the customers hold Comcast's marketing department to the same standards? Corporations have more rights than individuals. If only I could incorporate myself... | |
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join:2004-11-24
West Palm Beach, FL
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| Re: It Works Both Ways said by jmn1207 :If Comcast can be persnickety in their legal jargon with regards to network "management", why can't the customers hold Comcast's marketing department to the same standards? Corporations have more rights than individuals. If only I could incorporate myself... Because of the word: Reasonable. And what this lawsuit is about is UNreasonable. No technology is infallible. | |
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jmn1207
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Reston, VA
| Conglomerates are selective in how they interpret things, and great big bags of money seem to encourage policy makers and judges to take their side almost exclusively. What is reasonable about faking packets? I hope this gets thrown out, as I would hate to see a new recovery fee on my bill to cover any court costs that might be incurred.
This charge is intended to offset certain costs incurred by our customers' unreasonable lawsuits.
I'd kill for the same kind of flexibility when paying my bills. Imagine being able to keep a couple extra dollars for the weekly football pool because sound was mysteriously lost in the middle of a DVR playback.
It would only seem like an unreasonable lawsuit if the US was not completely overflowing with seemingly ridiculous amounts of crazy, nutty whiners looking to make a buck for the stupidest of things. I don't even roll my eyes anymore when I read these stories. This is the "Professional driver on a closed course" generation. | |
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Erie, PA
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| said by AtomicZero :said by jmn1207 :If Comcast can be persnickety in their legal jargon with regards to network "management", why can't the customers hold Comcast's marketing department to the same standards? Corporations have more rights than individuals. If only I could incorporate myself... Because of the word: Reasonable. And what this lawsuit is about is UNreasonable. No technology is infallible. Tell that to the RIAA | |
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benn19
join:2001-06-21
Plainfield, IL
| ALWAYS does get some in trouble WalMart was busted for this years ago,and the court found in favor of the person filing the suit. The claim was WM's signage stated " ALWAYS The Low Price, ALWAYS". Well as we know no matter who you are, you can't ALWAYS. So they had to change all of the corprate signage to "ALWAYS low prices, ALWAYS" | |
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join:2005-09-17
| Re: ALWAYS does get some in trouble My father runs his own business and advertises "we will beat any competitors estimate, guaranteed" If a customer says they got a lower estimate elsewhere, he simply beats it, no trickery there, just good business.
off topic but as for chinamart(walmart) my years ago my mother worked there when they advertised MADE IN THE USA. we bought just about everything from there. Last xmas I every and i mean every toy purchased from walmart was broken within two days. I returned a shopping cart full of toys and to my surprise so did hundreds of other people.
In my opinion the high profit, low/minimal quality business model is the scourge of the U.S. Bring me back to the days when I could find a label that said MADE IN THE USA and know that i was getting quality. | |
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Man Sues Comcast For 'Always On' Claim
Only a moron would see "always on" as "never down"
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