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Support network neutrality and help make the Internet explode!
09:44AM Tuesday Aug 04 2009 by Karl Bode
tags: Op/Ed · net-neutrality
One gets the feeling that if Dallas Mavericks owner and HDNet CEO Mark Cuban wasn't absolutely terrified of broadband video, he wouldn't be constantly ranting about how broadband video is going to fail. Cuban's spent the last five years urging ISPs to block P2P, supporting the cable industry's vision of net neutrality (as in: none), insisting the Internet is dead, lamenting broadband video's shortcomings and generally pouting a lot.

Apparently, Cuban believes that if he scares his readership enough, the inevitable advertising revenue losses cable TV will someday feel from online video won't actually happen. This week on the Mark Cuban show, the vociferous Internet celebrity urges everyone who operates a TV network to support net neutrality. Why the sudden turnaround? Because the Internets will collapse and Internet video will die! Haha:
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If you run a TV network, broadcast or cable, you should be spending a lot of money to support Net Neutrality. Why ? Because in a net neutrality environment no bits get priority over any other bits. When that happens, bits collide. When bits collide they slow down. Sometimes they dont reach their destination and need to be retransmitted. Often they don't make it at all. When video bits dont arrive to their destination in a timely manner, internet video consumers get an experience that is worse than what traditional tv distribution options.
Cuban's responding to new efforts in Congress to impose network neutrality protections. Of course bits don't really "collide" on modern networks, and the bill exempts "reasonable network management" from neutrality provisions allowing for congestion control, but apparently no matter. This is the network neutrality debate, and as we've seen the last two go-rounds, truth, facts, and data are irrelevant -- particularly to overly chatty millionaire TV tycoons worried about their wallets.

While the bill likely won't survive a Congress that's all but directly controlled by telecom lobbyists, that still won't save us from several months of vigorous, fact-optional network neutrality debate. All the usual players are once again gathering, including Mark Cuban and his mouth, paid cable and phone industry sock puppets, stick figure cartoons, dancing men in green tights, and evil ISP flying saucers. Can we just skip to the part where consumer welfare gets ignored and be done with it?

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alphapointe
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Morons! I'm surrounded by Morons!!!

What kool-aid is this guy drinking? I might like a hit of it.
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said by alphapointe See Profile :

What kool-aid is this guy drinking? I might like a hit of it.
I want some of that kool-aid too. It always seems to be making this guy trip!
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crystal koolaid, and special brownies.

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said by alphapointe See Profile :

What kool-aid is this guy drinking? I might like a hit of it.
Kool Aid with JD is the best, lol
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It must be fun...

being as big of a jackass that this guy is. I wonder how he handles the really difficult things like breathe in and breathe out. Every time this guy opens his cesspool of a mouth he makes himself look like a bigger douchebag. Gratz dude...
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said by ender7074 See Profile :

being as big of a jackass that this guy is. I wonder how he handles the really difficult things like breathe in and breathe out. Every time this guy opens his cesspool of a mouth he makes himself look like a bigger douchebag. Gratz dude...
Ah, but can you dance like he does/do/did?
k1ll3rdr4g0n

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No grasp on technology

quote:
Because in a net neutrality environment no bits get priority over any other bits. When that happens, bits collide. When bits collide they slow down. Sometimes they dont reach their destination and need to be retransmitted. Often they don't make it at all. When video bits dont arrive to their destination in a timely manner, internet video consumers get an experience that is worse than what traditional tv distribution options.
Can someone please explain to me how "bits collide"? I mean as far I know networks, that was only a problem when using a hub and they didn't "slow down", as far I understand it the data just got dropped.

And in TCP, which is what 99.9999% of all video streaming (at least to my knowledge, someone prove me wrong but I am almost sure that the video gets streamed/downloaded through HTTP which uses TCP), when a packet doesn't arrive, TCP is smart enough to ask for it again. And this is an instant process, of acknowledaging that you get all the packets and they came in order.

As another point, hulu has GREAT quality. I mean maybe he has never even turn on a computer, but to me hulu's quality is great. But, then again I would rather watch a 15-30 second per commercial - lower quality show on the internet than watch FIVE FREAKING MINUTES of ads on cable WHICH I HAVE TO PAY FOR. DUH! I would gladly shell out the money for cable if it didn't have ads, OR I could pick and choose the channels I want.

I think some people really need a reality check, perhaps a couple of hours of electroshock therapy to get them back on track.

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Re: No grasp on technology

There is also UDP (Universal Datagram Protocal) which is a connectionless protocol which video if it gets dropped doesn't ask for it again which thankfully not a lot of company's use as if it breaks the connection choppy video will occur.
Here's a good article on Wikipedia
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer

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Get a DVR. Even when I used tapes in the80's and 90's I didn't watch commercials. I've been time shifting TV watching for 25 years.

said by k1ll3rdr4g0n See Profile :

quote:
Because in a net neutrality environment no bits get priority over any other bits. When that happens, bits collide. When bits collide they slow down. Sometimes they dont reach their destination and need to be retransmitted. Often they don't make it at all. When video bits dont arrive to their destination in a timely manner, internet video consumers get an experience that is worse than what traditional tv distribution options.
Can someone please explain to me how "bits collide"? I mean as far I know networks, that was only a problem when using a hub and they didn't "slow down", as far I understand it the data just got dropped.

And in TCP, which is what 99.9999% of all video streaming (at least to my knowledge, someone prove me wrong but I am almost sure that the video gets streamed/downloaded through HTTP which uses TCP), when a packet doesn't arrive, TCP is smart enough to ask for it again. And this is an instant process, of acknowledaging that you get all the packets and they came in order.

As another point, hulu has GREAT quality. I mean maybe he has never even turn on a computer, but to me hulu's quality is great. But, then again I would rather watch a 15-30 second per commercial - lower quality show on the internet than watch FIVE FREAKING MINUTES of ads on cable WHICH I HAVE TO PAY FOR. DUH! I would gladly shell out the money for cable if it didn't have ads, OR I could pick and choose the channels I want.

I think some people really need a reality check, perhaps a couple of hours of electroshock therapy to get them back on track.

cdru
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said by k1ll3rdr4g0n See Profile :

Can someone please explain to me how "bits collide"? I mean as far I know networks, that was only a problem when using a hub and they didn't "slow down", as far I understand it the data just got dropped.
Mr. Cuban may or may not know the specifics of how IP communications occur, but regardless I bet he was metaphorically speaking. He's referring more to congestion and if everyone is treated the same, then everyone's connection will suffer.

And in TCP, which is what 99.9999% of all video streaming (at least to my knowledge, someone prove me wrong but I am almost sure that the video gets streamed/downloaded through HTTP which uses TCP), when a packet doesn't arrive, TCP is smart enough to ask for it again. And this is an instant process, of acknowledaging that you get all the packets and they came in order.
It depends on what type of application is being used and written as to if the video is transmitted via TCP or UDP.

TCP is good if you want to guarantee quality, but don't have a time constraint. YouTube for instance can just pause the video and allow it to buffer or fully download to play the video. Other applications such as real time streaming or VoIP require time sensitive content, but quality can suffer. It's better to drop a packet and have a missing frame or a slight pause in the audio then to buffer it, having a even longer delay and out of sync time line.

Working with TCP or UDP, the developer of software may be able to work around the limitations of either protocol. It just may require additional work on his or her part for optimal playback...however that gets defined for the application.

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Re: No grasp on technology

Mark Cuban's metaphors are only slightly better than Ted Steven's....
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Re: No grasp on technology

said by cwy1980 See Profile :

Mark Cuban's metaphors are only slightly better than Ted Steven's....
The difference is that it would take several hundred other people to be just as bumbling as Steven's in order to make it's way into law. Cuban has enough money that people listen to him regardless.

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Hell last time I was over at my friend's house, we watched a movie trailer on youtube that looked frikkin' dvd quality even when full-screened on his 52" tv!

Shockingly good.
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There is the phrase "network collision", he's probably just using it artistically. I think we know what he means, network neutrality will somehow lead to more internet usage which will lead to congestion. I think more network usage is a good thing and a measure of success, not something to avoid.

There isn't a practical limit on how much bandwidth can be constructed. As long as bandwidth providers can make a profit and no one gets a monopoly, they'll keep making more bandwidth. The .com bubble is long gone, so hopefully the bandwidth business will always be a profitable one.

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Thank God this clown didn't buy the Chicago Cubs. Now while the Cubs are Not my Chicago baseball team, I don't think I could stand the news barrage about him in this city if he did own them.
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Metatron2008

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Bits collide? How about dumbasses collide with notepad?

Mark Cuban needs to either get off the net or actually study how it transmits data.

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Re: Bits collide? How about dumbasses collide with notepad?

He could get his research data from Ted Stevens. And I quote:

"Ten movies streaming across that, that Internet, and what happens to your own personal Internet? I just the other day got...an Internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday. I got it yesterday [Tuesday]. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the Internet commercially."

"[...] They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the Internet. And again, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material"
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Re: Bits collide? How about dumbasses collide with notepad?

Funny thing was even before reading your post, I thought of former Sen. Ted "Series Of Tubes" Stevens when I read Mark Cuban's comment about bits colliding.

And as far as dumbasses go, he really is one. He should just STFU.
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said by bigunk See Profile :

He could get his research data from Ted Stevens. And I quote:

"Ten movies streaming across that, that Internet, and what happens to your own personal Internet? I just the other day got...an Internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday. I got it yesterday [Tuesday]. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the Internet commercially."

"[...] They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the Internet. And again, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material"
Well first, collision only happens with exteme low amounts of bandwidth, aka home networks.

So it seems Mark Cuban is making some dumbass argument that lack of upgrades is a reason for no net neutruality...

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said by Metatron2008 See Profile :

Mark Cuban needs to either get off the net or actually study how it transmits data.
He doesn't need to. He's talking to Congress. They know less about the internet than him...
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The look of evil?

From the very beginning something in this guy's eyes always creeped me out and the particular picture above really accentuates it.
lesopp

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Another Ted "Tubes" Stevens moment

Is it official? Does Mark "Bits Collide" Cuban replace Ted "Tubes" Stevens?
Jonbo298

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Re: Another Ted "Tubes" Stevens moment

That was my first thought. He's made the new "Tubes" comment. Don't collide the bits! They must retransmit!
PapaMidnight

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Colliding bits?

Bits Colliding? Doesn't he mean Packet Collision?

Besides, when was the last time anyone used a Token-Ring network?

Of course, packets can still collide, though the likeliness of this is... well... slim to none and a missing-persons report was filed for slim long ago.

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Re: Colliding bits?

When Bits Collide
The newest release from Powerman 5000.
coming soon to a college radio station near you

Think of Mark Cuban as the vaudeville of these troubled economic times
(except he has lots of money and some politicians actually agree with him...).
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Re: Colliding bits?

said by mr sean See Profile :

When Bits Collide
The newest release from Powerman 5000.
coming soon to a college radio station near you

Think of Mark Cuban as the vaudeville of these troubled economic times
(except he has lots of money and some politicians actually agree with him...).
I swear I heard that song somewhere before...
"Now this is what it's like when bits collide... Now this is what it's like..."
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said by PapaMidnight See Profile :

Bits Colliding? Doesn't he mean Packet Collision?

Besides, when was the last time anyone used a Token-Ring network?
Huh? Token-Ring networks are deterministic; they can't have collisions. Only one computer at a time can possess the token.
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Re: Colliding bits?

said by kludge See Profile :

said by PapaMidnight See Profile :

Bits Colliding? Doesn't he mean Packet Collision?

Besides, when was the last time anyone used a Token-Ring network?
Huh? Token-Ring networks are deterministic; they can't have collisions. Only one computer at a time can possess the token.
Sorry. I failed to explain that statement clearly enough. Allow me to reword:

"When's the last time anyone used Token-Ring? About as long as it's been since Packet Collision has actually been a problem".
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said by PapaMidnight See Profile :

Bits Colliding? Doesn't he mean Packet Collision?

Besides, when was the last time anyone used a Token-Ring network?

Of course, packets can still collide, though the likeliness of this is... well... slim to none and a missing-persons report was filed for slim long ago.
Hes dumbing it down for those of us who dont know about the complicated series of tubez.

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LOL @ picture

Wow his face looks really scary....as if he about to do something freaky
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The great Internet Hub

Mabye Mark's IT guys are is still using hubs and he's fed up wth collisions!
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Cuban is off base...as usual

Always wanting to be the "smartest guy in the room," this guy seldom cuts it.

There's a great blog concerning this topic here. Pretty interesting and directly addresses Cuban's claims.

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Mark Cuban: Professional Troll Why?

Because blogging sites like DSLR continue to pay him attention.
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Re: Mark Cuban: Professional Troll Why?

said by battleop See Profile :

Because blogging sites like DSLR continue to pay him attention.
MARK CUBAN, Professional Attention Whore and all around overexposed guy...

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This forum talks a lot of crap

but never says anything.

Im certainly not afraid of broadband. There is nothing to be afraid of.

Some of the comments here prove my point, and they dont even know it. ie, retransmitting packets.

I understand how networks work. Have since I installed my first one 25 years ago.

The best you can do on this forum is call me names. let me give you some facts:

1. There are no QOS standards for exchange of video (or any packets) between peers.
2. as long as all packets are treated equally, it will be easy for new applications to negatively impact the performance of all applications in a net neutrality environment
3. people have a hard time setting up home networks that can sustain throughput for a single video stream, let alone the multiple video streams that over the top video will require in the home
4. IN a net neutrality environment, how long do you think it will be until some kid, say on FIOS, sets up an encoder that is throwing out 100mbs video just to say he can ?

5. Do you really think that video will be the biggest bandwidth hog app that comes along over the next 5 - 10 years ? Its far easier to come up with bandwidth hogging apps than it is to expand throughput (not advertised bit rates) in the last mile. What happens then if we have net neutrality ?

IMHO, those of you who think there is a Moores law for bandwidth on the last mile are confused. DSL is the perfect example. Distance is still a problem. If you cant solve distance, how are you going to solve bandwidth hog apps ?

Over the top video is ZERO threat to traditional TV. You know what the biggest threat to traditional tv from cable/telco networks is ?

That fact that the Comcasts/Time Warners/etc of the world can make more money from selling a naked pipe and not selling TV then they can from selling TV programming.

If they were to convert their 850mhz systems to all IP and just sell it as pure open bandwidth they could generate a lot more revenue per bit than they can by selling traditional tv and vod services. At which point only satellite will offer traditional TV and cable can deliver bits for whoever pays them. You could have full net neutrality and it wouldnt matter.

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Gbcue
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Capacity

What about the amount of internet capacity that is increasing daily?

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Yes, well we need to ignore that -- as well as any possible evolutions in Internet video technology -- and the fact that the neutrality regs in Congress right now don't prevent anybody from reasonable capacity management -- for his point to be even remotely coherent.

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said by Karl Bode See Profile :

Yes, well we need to ignore that -- as well as any possible evolutions in Internet video technology -- and the fact that the neutrality regs in Congress right now don't prevent anybody from reasonable capacity management -- for his point to be even remotely coherent.
Because the definition of "reasonable" is something we all will be able to easily agree on, right Karl ? Just like the caps that Time Warner and others thought they were setting. You were fine with them taking such reasonable steps, right ?

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Re: Capacity

Because the definition of "reasonable" is something we all will be able to easily agree on, right Karl ?
Yes. Consumers managed to come to an agreement with Comcast concerning their network management in a way that satisfied consumers, government and the ISP. Amazing, really.

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From whom did he steal all of his wealth?
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said by WiseOldNerd See Profile :

From whom did he steal all of his wealth?
His basketball team and extorting cable/video providers to pay to carry his "station".
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Cuban predicted MP3 failure in 1999


MP3 doomed already?
By Matthew Broersma, ZDNN
March 15, 1999
12:19 PM ET


AUSTIN, Texas -- Just as MP3 is getting off the ground, the Internet music format is being pronounced dead, or nearly so.
That, at least, was the pronouncement of Mark Cuban, president of the multimedia aggregation site Broadcast.com (BCST), at the opening of the South by Southwest Interactive Festival here Sunday.
"MP3 will die. I'm sure of that," Cuban said. "It will be absorbed by RealNetworks (RNWK) or Microsoft (MSFT), and it'll become just a notation... No one has the economic incentive to keep it alive."
Responding to the suggestion that MP3 already has a strong culture around it, Cuban quipped, "Disco also used to have a strong culture."
MP3 has become a phenomenon in the online world since being adopted as the format of choice for college students exchanging near-CD-quality music on the Net. Several companies have come out with hardware to make MP3 portable, and the music industry is even looking into supporting the format.
But Cuban argued that all that momentum could disappear if compelling content became available on some other format. "The Internet market is very fluid," he said.
Cuban's company is widely seen as a pioneer in distributing multimedia over the Internet from hundreds of radio stations, television stations, audio books and business events.
Wall Street has also been kind to Broadcast.com, with Internet stock fever more than doubling the company's shares since the beginning of the year.
Unknown territory
But Cuban is the first to admit that no one has yet figured out the business of distributing audiovisual media over the Internet. The only thing to be sure of, he said, is that things will look very different in two or four years.
He warned that the biggest players on the field today might not even exist in two years' time. RealNetworks Inc., for example, which makes the industry-leading RealMedia streaming media platform, could be bought by a larger company. Streaming media will be too important for RealNetworks to remain independent, Cuban insisted.
Not surprisingly, coming from the president of a content-aggregation company, Cuban believes the one constant is that "aggregation is king."
"Distribution is everything. If I put Seinfeld on a cable-access channel, it's nothing," he said.
Emerging predictions
Among Cuban's picks for successful emerging distribution methods are wireless Net access and online pay-per-view services.
Network television stations as we know them will disappear, he claimed, although local TV stations will thrive by reselling the downstream bandwidth available on the HDTV spectrum.
"Within four years, backbone bandwidth will be free for downstream," Cuban said, saying it could be bundled with hardware such as routers. Upstream bandwidth, however -- sending information to the Net, as opposed to receiving it -- will be "pay as you go," meaning that Web content providers will still have to find ways to make a buck.
Broadcast.com itself has grown enough in the last year to purchase companies such as Net Roadshow and Simple Net, but it also faces growing competition.
CMGI, the venture firm behind Lycos Inc., recently said it would put its financial muscle behind a Broadcast.com-like startup, and Microsoft Corp. appears to be getting into the content-aggregation business with the new version of its Internet Explorer browser.
But Cuban said he's not worried by the competition.
"We think we have a three-and-a-half or four year advantage over everybody else, so bring them on," he said.

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respect

I have to respect mark. Give credit where credit is due.

My trolls dont make headline news on dslreports.
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metaphors

I think cdru above is on the right track ... a lot of you don't seem to understand metaphors. When I first started programming communications processors in the 1960s, it was already common practice to refer to communications links as pipes. Stevens certainly, like most all politicians, hasn't a clue about tech stuff. But if you think his use of the pipes metaphor demonstrates that, then you are as clueless as he is.

As far as the collision metaphor is concerned, something akin to a collision is by its nature a link level issue. When packets are dropped due to congestion, it is at a higher level and nothing like this has occurred. Still, I can theorize how a knowledgeable person might have found himself using that metaphor. In "simplifying" tech stuff for politicians and upper management types, one has to be careful of hot button words and phrases that can send things spinning out of control. I've given plenty of tech presentations to politicians. I don't think I've ever had occasion to mention congestion control, but if I did I would never say that congestion control discarded or dropped anything, because I guarantee some nitwit in the room would get outraged and say, "You mean he had a choice about dropping it? Just tell him to stop!" It would be a lot less dangerous to use some kind of language like collision or overrun which sounds more like an act of God. It may not be technically correct, but it is less likely to work some non-technical person into a frenzy.
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